Re: Nick Viall - Bachelorette 10 Contestant - Spoilers - Discussion - Thread #3

[Beagle]

^^Nick looks super handsome there. 

Just went over to the unspoiled section and everyone has Josh as F1. My unspoiled sister text me Monday night and here are her thoughts:
I and smitten with Josh but he screams player. Don't like Nick on tonight's episode but still like Marcus. I then asked who she thought would win and she said she hoped Marcus but knew it would probably be Josh. 

Have we ever had such an obvious F1 other than Emily on brad season? I would think that Josh's main competition(Nick) would get a better edit to throw us off. Not that Josh has the most flattering edit either, but......

I may be in the minority here but so far I like Nick's edit.

One of the major thorns I've picked at over seasons is that real people are portrayed as characters rather than authentic beings.  To me, authenticity requires the edit to show strengths and flaws.  
We've seen Nick's flaws to be "salty", slightly aloof (or slightly arrogant), blunt despite him knowing a "ruckus" will following.  
His neutral characteristics - which could be + or - depending on the situation - are assertiveness, questioning or scepticism, highly analytical.  
Key strengths: communication skills, self-deprecating, highly intelligent, calm under pressure, focused, admits mistakes and owns them, open to discussing concerns brought to his attention rather than becoming defensive.  

There are good fits for everyone.  For a long term relationship to work, a couple needs to work through the most challenging aspects of their partner.  The show often presents some knight in shining armor but he's probably really stinky under all that metal.  I'd rather have a Braveheart where all the mud on his thighs is exposed.  Bring it on Salty Nick. 

I love this entire post.  

[stuckinsc]

^^Nick looks super handsome there. 

Just went over to the unspoiled section and everyone has Josh as F1. My unspoiled sister text me Monday night and here are her thoughts:
I and smitten with Josh but he screams player. Don't like Nick on tonight's episode but still like Marcus. I then asked who she thought would win and she said she hoped Marcus but knew it would probably be Josh. 

Have we ever had such an obvious F1 other than Emily on brad season? I would think that Josh's main competition(Nick) would get a better edit to throw us off. Not that Josh has the most flattering edit either, but......

I may be in the minority here but so far I like Nick's edit.

One of the major thorns I've picked at over seasons is that real people are portrayed as characters rather than authentic beings.  To me, authenticity requires the edit to show strengths and flaws.  
We've seen Nick's flaws to be "salty", slightly aloof (or slightly arrogant), blunt despite him knowing a "ruckus" will following.  
His neutral characteristics - which could be + or - depending on the situation - are assertiveness, questioning or scepticism, highly analytical.  
Key strengths: communication skills, self-deprecating, highly intelligent, calm under pressure, focused, admits mistakes and owns them, open to discussing concerns brought to his attention rather than becoming defensive.  

There are good fits for everyone.  For a long term relationship to work, a couple needs to work through the most challenging aspects of their partner.  The show often presents some knight in shining armor but he's probably really stinky under all that metal.  I'd rather have a Braveheart where all the mud on his thighs is exposed.  Bring it on Salty Nick. 

I love this entire post.  

Me too! If it weren't for Andi's blog and then the stupid Off tweet, I would still strongly believe that Nick could be F1. Not sure if I want Nick to be F1, I don't think dealing with MeAndi in the real world will be fun.

[MVMom39forever]

^^Nick looks super handsome there. 

Just went over to the unspoiled section and everyone has Josh as F1. My unspoiled sister text me Monday night and here are her thoughts:
I and smitten with Josh but he screams player. Don't like Nick on tonight's episode but still like Marcus. I then asked who she thought would win and she said she hoped Marcus but knew it would probably be Josh. 

Have we ever had such an obvious F1 other than Emily on brad season? I would think that Josh's main competition(Nick) would get a better edit to throw us off. Not that Josh has the most flattering edit either, but......

I may be in the minority here but so far I like Nick's edit.

One of the major thorns I've picked at over seasons is that real people are portrayed as characters rather than authentic beings.  To me, authenticity requires the edit to show strengths and flaws.  
We've seen Nick's flaws to be "salty", slightly aloof (or slightly arrogant), blunt despite him knowing a "ruckus" will following.  
His neutral characteristics - which could be + or - depending on the situation - are assertiveness, questioning or scepticism, highly analytical.  
Key strengths: communication skills, self-deprecating, highly intelligent, calm under pressure, focused, admits mistakes and owns them, open to discussing concerns brought to his attention rather than becoming defensive.  

There are good fits for everyone.  For a long term relationship to work, a couple needs to work through the most challenging aspects of their partner.  The show often presents some knight in shining armor but he's probably really stinky under all that metal.  I'd rather have a Braveheart where all the mud on his thighs is exposed.  Bring it on Salty Nick. 

Yes, great analysis! I like Nick too. I get the same vibe from him that I did from JP. I had a ginormous crush on the super sexy JP but Nick kind of reminds me of my son ... so not crushing   

I go back and forth on whether his plane video is authentic. My latest thought is could RS have paid someone off on crew to tell him the flight that Nick was taking and then sent someone to watch his actions and the person just lucked out with Nick's call???. That sounds like stretch but what bothers me still is how quickly after filming, RS had in grubby hands. But, on other hand, after last season's fantastic miss, RS can't afford another.

That said, I don't see or haven't yet heard talk about an intellectual connection with Josh as she has with Nick. If she does start to use same words to describe her Josh connection as she does her Nick connection, I will easily believe spoiler because of all other things she and Josh have in common. If she doesn't, I will believe either the foiler/Nick F1 ... or she settled for what she knew (as Nick said in video).

We got lots more of this season to watch so almost too soon to call it (if you only focus on the show and disregard other evidence.)

[Guest]

Regarding the video of Nick, wouldn't TP be more careful as to just throw him on a plane back home? Wouldn't he still have a handler with him? How easy would it to be to have one of MF pals sit behind him and record him? What are the odds of someone sitting behind a Nick on a plan and know he was on the Bachelorette, I mean the show hadn't even started to air yet?

[umngirl]

Regarding the video of Nick, wouldn't TP be more careful as to just throw him on a plane back home?  Wouldn't he still have a handler with him?  How easy would it to be to have one of MF pals sit behind him and record him?  What are the odds of someone sitting behind a Nick on a plan and know he was on the Bachelorette, I mean the show hadn't even started to air yet?

Apparently the handler is only with them from overseas to the U.S. Once they are on their way home via a connecting flight they are on their own with no handler.

[momoftrips]

I wonder if the guys are going to be upset with Nick again when he gets
1-on-1 time with Andi at the cocktail party when he already has a rose. #Salty
 
Sorry about the poor quality but the clip isn't posted online yet.

[Guest]

Regarding the video of Nick, wouldn't TP be more careful as to just throw him on a plane back home?  Wouldn't he still have a handler with him?  How easy would it to be to have one of MF pals sit behind him and record him?  What are the odds of someone sitting behind a Nick on a plan and know he was on the Bachelorette, I mean the show hadn't even started to air yet?

Apparently the handler is only with them from overseas to the U.S. Once they are on their way home via a connecting flight they are on their own with no handler.

Well I bet ya that rule is going to get changed!  

[stuckinsc]

I wonder if the guys are going to be upset with Nick again when he gets
1-on-1 time with Andi at the cocktail party when he already has a rose. #Salty
 
Sorry about the poor quality but the clip isn't posted online yet.

They probably will and it will make me even more annoyed with the guys. It is Andi's choice who she spends time with. Her claims to being so fair and getting to know the guys, I just don't see it. She has seemed disengaged with all but five guys since week two to me.

I thought the roses from Nick and the problem with it was her fault too. It is great you are happy, but wait until you are done with the guy you are with to read the note and get all giddy. To me she is rude and self-centered.

[julychild]

I wonder if the guys are going to be upset with Nick again when he gets
1-on-1 time with Andi at the cocktail party when he already has a rose. #Salty
 
Sorry about the poor quality but the clip isn't posted online yet.

mom, I saw that preview too and thought the exact same thing. I expect to see another "front-runner" scene, next week! What did he do this time? Give her a mug to show that he liked their date?

[boston1]

I wonder if the guys are going to be upset with Nick again when he gets
1-on-1 time with Andi at the cocktail party when he already has a rose. #Salty
 
Sorry about the poor quality but the clip isn't posted online yet.

is there a new preview with these screen caps?

[momoftrips]

I wonder if the guys are going to be upset with Nick again when he gets
1-on-1 time with Andi at the cocktail party when he already has a rose. #Salty
 
Sorry about the poor quality but the clip isn't posted online yet.

mom, I saw that preview too and thought the exact same thing. I expect to see another "front-runner" scene, next week! What did he do this time? Give her a mug to show that he liked their date?

 
  I didn't think about that. I just thought it was her drink.

[Hotmomma]

Yes she sure seems into Nick. And their 1/1 appears to be a very romantic date as well.

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