Re: Josh Murray - Bachelorette 10 Contestant - Spoilers - Discussion - Thread #3

[Aunties_Love]

I'm going to go ahead and guess that anything coming from the desk of the great RS has to be treated with care.
Anything actually sleuthed and figured out here is more likely to be valid.

Good points, and I agree.

[Aunties_Love]

TPTB would be crazy to have Josh and Andi make an appearance on BIP. They could be broken up by the time it airs.

So true, so true. Way too many uncontrollable variables there! I would think that the Producers don't want to take that HUGE risk.

[chloep]

It's so funny to read that some posters won't believe Josh is the F1 because they don't believe spoilers or don't think the clues that point to Josh as the F1 are anything legitimate, but one random person tweets they saw him on a plane to Cancun and now some people are convinced he's going on BIP.

Didn't we have someone say in Philly they saw Marcus and that wasn't true? I think it would make some sense to figure out if this tweeter just didn't make a mistake.

Why else would he be going to Cancun...either a holiday(not typical of F1 and screams shades of Brooks Cruise) or he's on BIP as there is no way that the producers would allow Josh and Andi to go anywhere near BIP together!

And yes, I am one of the posters that doesn't think Josh is F1.  IMO there are no solid clues to his being F1!!

You are of course entitled to you opinion, but saying there are NO solid clues is just ridiculous. We have more than we have EVER had. Some people just choose to believe that every single "clue" is part of some elaborate foiler campaign....

Let's be honest if we would have a "candid" picture of Josh and Andi kissing in front of Andi's apartment complex, some would still say that it is a set up... Nothing wrong with that, but still...

[Ash2214]

Aunties_Love, all I was saying was we have far more pointing to Josh than we do, let's say Chris. We have a tweet from one random person saying she saw Josh on a plane to Cancun and some people are automatically assuming he's one BIP. If people are so quick to shut down spoilers and other clues then they should feel the same way about a tweet that can easily be a mistake. Who knows?

If people don't accept spoilers or other clues and think we should do more digging (which I agree with) then I think people shouldn't accept a tweet as concrete evidence. All of that is just one large contradiction. Everyone is entitled to post their opinions and I'm just posting mine. More digging is always need, but it's contradictory when some posts get completely shut down when they involve clues, but then the same people say they're 100% convinced about something about a tweet because it could help benefit their favorite guy.

Digging is always needed and I'm looking forward to doing some more and hopefully we'll have more answers before the finale

[Bet2Win]

RS was completely wrong with Des's season. The sc's didn't support the spoiler, Brook's cruise didn't support the spoiler.

With that said, there are things that support the spoiler .. Nick's video, Josh's snap chat account. Are these spoilers or foilers?

We don't have any sc's for the FD's, why not? The season premiere usually throws in some scenes from the FD's.

[Bet2Win]

It's so funny to read that some posters won't believe Josh is the F1 because they don't believe spoilers or don't think the clues that point to Josh as the F1 are anything legitimate, but one random person tweets they saw him on a plane to Cancun and now some people are convinced he's going on BIP.

Didn't we have someone say in Philly they saw Marcus and that wasn't true? I think it would make some sense to figure out if this tweeter just didn't make a mistake.

Why else would he be going to Cancun...either a holiday(not typical of F1 and screams shades of Brooks Cruise) or he's on BIP as there is no way that the producers would allow Josh and Andi to go anywhere near BIP together!

And yes, I am one of the posters that doesn't think Josh is F1.  IMO there are no solid clues to his being F1!!

You are of course entitled to you opinion, but saying there are NO solid clues is just ridiculous. We have more than we have EVER had. Some people just choose to believe that every single "clue" is part of some elaborate foiler campaign....

Let's be honest if we would have a "candid" picture of Josh and Andi kissing in front of Andi's apartment complex, some would still say that it is a set up... Nothing wrong with that, but still...

Too funny that you said that about the picture. RS relied on a picture for his spoiler that Chantal was the F1. So pictures can be wrong too.   

[Ash2214]

THANK YOU chloep! That's all I've been trying to say. It's as simple as that. To deny there's any proof that points to Josh is just silly. I'm not trying to say he's definitely F1, but a lot points to him.

[Guest]

Would anyone be willing to email or tweet RS asking him his thoughts on Josh going to Cancun where BIP is filming? I'm sure he would want to defend his spoilers plus he probably already have people in place there for BIP spoilers.
Just an idea... but not comfortable doing it myself.. :hidingchair 

[chloep]

It's so funny to read that some posters won't believe Josh is the F1 because they don't believe spoilers or don't think the clues that point to Josh as the F1 are anything legitimate, but one random person tweets they saw him on a plane to Cancun and now some people are convinced he's going on BIP.

Didn't we have someone say in Philly they saw Marcus and that wasn't true? I think it would make some sense to figure out if this tweeter just didn't make a mistake.

Why else would he be going to Cancun...either a holiday(not typical of F1 and screams shades of Brooks Cruise) or he's on BIP as there is no way that the producers would allow Josh and Andi to go anywhere near BIP together!

And yes, I am one of the posters that doesn't think Josh is F1.  IMO there are no solid clues to his being F1!!

You are of course entitled to you opinion, but saying there are NO solid clues is just ridiculous. We have more than we have EVER had. Some people just choose to believe that every single "clue" is part of some elaborate foiler campaign....

Let's be honest if we would have a "candid" picture of Josh and Andi kissing in front of Andi's apartment complex, some would still say that it is a set up... Nothing wrong with that, but still...

Too funny that you said that about the picture.  RS relied on a picture for his spoiler that Chantal was the F1.  So pictures can be wrong too.    

As far as I know that "picture" was never shown....   He said he had evidence, we did not have any. You see what I am getting at?   

[Aunties_Love]

Was this tweet of Josh's discussed?

Josh Murray @jmurbulldog  ·  11h
'Don't think of the things you didn't get after praying.  Think of the countless blessings God gave you without asking.'  #Thankful#Blessed

Yes. Sent three or so hours after he was spotted on the plane to Cancun.

So does it mean he was blessed with Andi, or that he didn't get Andi?

I suppose it could go either way. However, if he truly wanted to be on the show because of Andi, you would think he'd pray while waiting to start filming, if it's what God chose for him, that they would be together.

Though the timing would work with a landing in Cancun, internet/data is not as readily available out of country and is expensive (so not often used when traveling).  So a tweet by Josh is more of an argument for him still be in the US.

I don't think that matters. If he's in cancun, he'd be able to tweet anytime from the hotel, if especially from the next few days as the filming would start after that.

[Bet2Win]

It's so funny to read that some posters won't believe Josh is the F1 because they don't believe spoilers or don't think the clues that point to Josh as the F1 are anything legitimate, but one random person tweets they saw him on a plane to Cancun and now some people are convinced he's going on BIP.

Didn't we have someone say in Philly they saw Marcus and that wasn't true? I think it would make some sense to figure out if this tweeter just didn't make a mistake.

Why else would he be going to Cancun...either a holiday(not typical of F1 and screams shades of Brooks Cruise) or he's on BIP as there is no way that the producers would allow Josh and Andi to go anywhere near BIP together!

And yes, I am one of the posters that doesn't think Josh is F1.  IMO there are no solid clues to his being F1!!

You are of course entitled to you opinion, but saying there are NO solid clues is just ridiculous. We have more than we have EVER had. Some people just choose to believe that every single "clue" is part of some elaborate foiler campaign....

Let's be honest if we would have a "candid" picture of Josh and Andi kissing in front of Andi's apartment complex, some would still say that it is a set up... Nothing wrong with that, but still...

Too funny that you said that about the picture.  RS relied on a picture for his spoiler that Chantal was the F1.  So pictures can be wrong too.    

As far as I know that "picture" was never shown....   He said he had evidence, we did not have any. You see what I am getting at?   

Oh, I agree that there are things that support the spoiler that Josh is F1. But, RS was 1000% sure of his spoiler that Chantal was F1 based on a picture of Chantal and Brad having Thanksgiving Dinner together in Palm Springs, with granny in the picture as well.

I do wonder, though, why no sc's of the FD's. Sc's never lie, so until then, I will continue to view the spoilers with a suspicious eye.

[chloep]

Sc's never lie, so until then, I will continue to view the spoilers with a suspicious eye.

  

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