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Post by SueSt Tue Jun 24, 2014 4:59 pm

2observe wrote:What I found interesting about Andi and Nick's date was that she was taking pictures of them as a couple.  Why would she want pictures with her F2 or F3???  That and the fact that he got the more impressive/expensive date leads me to believe that Nick is F1.
good comment, 2observe. I noticed this too... particularly since Nick tweeted the bird picture and said what a great day it was
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Post by Guest Tue Jun 24, 2014 5:02 pm

2observe wrote:What I found interesting about Andi and Nick's date was that she was taking pictures of them as a couple.  Why would she want pictures with her F2 or F3???  That and the fact that he got the more impressive/expensive date leads me to believe that Nick is F1.

Pretty sure the rental of the boat and palace in Marseille would be close to or even over the price for a gondola ride and the castle in Venice...

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Post by Guest Tue Jun 24, 2014 5:03 pm

BUT I agree on the couple pics! Could be telling

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Post by nannymargie Tue Jun 24, 2014 5:03 pm

Piper61 wrote:
nannymargie wrote:
Aunties_Love wrote:
Piper61 wrote:So far, there have been no walking skeletons coming out of Josh's closet, and the rest of the story is yet to unfold.  Hugesmile   
I am sorry, but I got the feeling he's hiding something.  Otherwise, why would be be so worried about trust, the lie detector and other things when the other guys are concerned but aren't whining about it.

I don't think he is hiding anything.  Andi is the one having problems because of his type cheating on her.
I really feel it is that simple, NM, and we may be in the minority of thinking.  

That's ok Piper we are in good company.   giggling
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Post by Piper61 Tue Jun 24, 2014 5:08 pm

nannymargie wrote:
Piper61 wrote:
nannymargie wrote:
Aunties_Love wrote:
Piper61 wrote:So far, there have been no walking skeletons coming out of Josh's closet, and the rest of the story is yet to unfold.  Hugesmile   
I am sorry, but I got the feeling he's hiding something.  Otherwise, why would be be so worried about trust, the lie detector and other things when the other guys are concerned but aren't whining about it.

I don't think he is hiding anything.  Andi is the one having problems because of his type cheating on her.
I really feel it is that simple, NM, and we may be in the minority of thinking.  

That's ok Piper we are in good company.   giggling
 :cutesmile!:  If we're wrong in our thinking, so be it. Don't think he gets off that easy with Momma Murray, however!  giggling 
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Post by JBF Tue Jun 24, 2014 5:12 pm

SLA44 wrote:
SueSt wrote:
Aunties_Love wrote:
Sorry, but she has been grilling the other guys too.  To say she hasn't just doesn't make sense.  She's been asking all of the F4 guys their life's story etc so to say that she's only picking on Josh isn't correct.  The fact that Josh can't take things in stride with the lie detector like that tells me he's hiding something...plain and simple and as we have been seeing, it's also a big, HUGE red flag to Andi too.  I just hope that Andi finds it before it's too late.
totally agree with this Aunties!  :-)

Ditto!!

Josh was not upset about the silly lie detector. He was just being "salty"... like Nick was when she wasn't "miming" attention his way, thanks to some... distraction. Distraction not available when the five of hearts team lost in Connecticut. That is why Josh commented on this date being so much different than the last three group dates... all three without her being "distracted".

She only did the silly lie detector test to "sniff" out her secret admirer. That gal was just all giggly when saying "There's a part of me that is, like, why did I rip it up? It was just... I think it was more about just wanting to know some of the answers." (Cue HUGE smile to The Distraction.)
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Post by SLA44 Tue Jun 24, 2014 5:23 pm

JBF wrote:
SLA44 wrote:
SueSt wrote:
Aunties_Love wrote:
Sorry, but she has been grilling the other guys too.  To say she hasn't just doesn't make sense.  She's been asking all of the F4 guys their life's story etc so to say that she's only picking on Josh isn't correct.  The fact that Josh can't take things in stride with the lie detector like that tells me he's hiding something...plain and simple and as we have been seeing, it's also a big, HUGE red flag to Andi too.  I just hope that Andi finds it before it's too late.
totally agree with this Aunties!  :-)

Ditto!!

Josh was not upset about the silly lie detector. He was just being "salty"... like Nick was when she wasn't "miming" attention his way, thanks to some... distraction. Distraction not available when the five of hearts team lost in Connecticut. That is why Josh commented on this date being so much different than the last three group dates... all three without her being "distracted".

She only did the silly lie detector test to "sniff" out her secret admirer. That gal was just all giggly when saying "There's a part of me that is, like, why did I rip it up? It was just... I think it was more about just wanting to know some of the answers." (Cue HUGE smile to The Distraction.)

Josh was sure a sourpuss at the GD cocktail party - did he smile even once when it was just the guys sitting around talking?
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Post by 2observe Tue Jun 24, 2014 5:34 pm

Aunties_Love wrote:
nannymargie wrote:
Aunties_Love wrote:
Piper61 wrote:
GuardianAngel wrote:I have no favourites. I see Josh, from epi 1 as wanting to win this competition. If all the guys had to take a lie detector test, why is Josh questioning whether Andi trust's him or not. He wasn't the only one that had to take the test. If someone questions an issue regarding trust, if you are totally innocent, then you have nothing to worry about. If you're defensive, then you're possibly hiding something. Maybe that's just what my own personal reaction would be.

He is the only one that got the suit of armour shot though! I can't remember what the question was, maybe it was, "are you here for the right reasons"? music, suit of armour shot. Maybe someone who has the ability to re watch that part can let me know.

As far as Nick taking Andi for alone time first, this happens all the time. Even though he had a rose, I say go for it. Whether it's man code or not, he obviously didn't care. Josh whined he wanted to take her aside too, so why didn't he? He had the same opportunity, as did everyone else.
All of the guys who had to take the lie detector test have not been in the same situation pre-show nor on the show with Andi as Josh has.  All of the guys also have not been stereotyped "athlete jock" like Josh has, and have not crossed Andi's radar in that regard.  This is very different for Josh in this situation IMO than the other guys.  I wish Andi could see the results, because Josh in fact, could be one of the three guys who didn't register as lying.  Josh had to have been feeling great after his 1-on-1 date conversation with Andi about moving past the stereotype of cheating athlete to someone Andi could trust is being honest and there for the right reasons.  He explained how hard it was having his GF not trust him, and having her believe her friends when they would say he was probably cheating on her.  In fact, he wasn't, but she did.
I agree with you GA.  As far as the whining that Josh is making...enough already!  Making excuses as to why Josh is the ONLY one that is having a hard time with trust is beyond me.  ALL the guys had to take the test and some were uneasy(obviously seen), but Josh whining like that was redicilous in this situation.  The guy is hiding something.  That's the only real thing that makes sense.

I am on Josh's side on this one.  Andi has NOT been grilling the other guys like she does Josh.  She doesn't have the trust issues with the other guys either.  Josh is taking the brunt of her past relationship when they cheated on her.  She is putting Josh thru the wringer and she admitted that much.  So I can see where it might get frustrating at times for him not to be trusted when he has done nothing to make her feel that way.  She even admitted she may be heading for heart break and he told her not with him she won't.  At this point Josh has his job cut out for him to convince her of that to where she finally believes him.
Sorry, but she has been grilling the other guys too.  To say she hasn't just doesn't make sense.  She's been asking all of the F4 guys their life's story etc so to say that she's only picking on Josh isn't correct.  The fact that Josh can't take things in stride with the lie detector like that tells me he's hiding something...plain and simple and as we have been seeing, it's also a big, HUGE red flag to Andi too.  I just hope that Andi finds it before it's too late.
To me, Josh appears to be a fast talker who doesn't like to lose and will fast talk his way into winning the girl....whether he loves her or not. :yes:
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Post by Aunties_Love Tue Jun 24, 2014 5:35 pm

nannymargie wrote:
Aunties_Love wrote:
Piper61 wrote:So far, there have been no walking skeletons coming out of Josh's closet, and the rest of the story is yet to unfold.  Hugesmile   
I am sorry, but I got the feeling he's hiding something.  Otherwise, why would be be so worried about trust, the lie detector and other things when the other guys are concerned but aren't whining about it.

I don't think he is hiding anything.  Andi is the one having problems because of his type cheating on her.
If he's not hiding anything, then why in the heck is it Andi's problem when all we hear from Josh is the constant whining that it's not fair for him to take the test and about trust issues when ALL of the other guys took the test. Why is HE the only one having the issue??


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Post by JBF Tue Jun 24, 2014 5:37 pm

Josh missed his brobuddy Nick. Brobuddies Brian and Marcus were together so they were happy. JJ missed Marquel and was almost as grumpy as Josh. Awwww... this is the season of the brobuddies. Too bad she dumped Cody since he wanted Chris to be his brobuddy, but MeAndi is unwilling to share.

Dylan's only problem was that he didn't wash his hands before eating and he felt sick in his tummy.
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Post by nannymargie Tue Jun 24, 2014 5:38 pm

SLA44 wrote:
JBF wrote:
SLA44 wrote:
SueSt wrote:
Aunties_Love wrote:
Sorry, but she has been grilling the other guys too.  To say she hasn't just doesn't make sense.  She's been asking all of the F4 guys their life's story etc so to say that she's only picking on Josh isn't correct.  The fact that Josh can't take things in stride with the lie detector like that tells me he's hiding something...plain and simple and as we have been seeing, it's also a big, HUGE red flag to Andi too.  I just hope that Andi finds it before it's too late.
totally agree with this Aunties!  :-)

Ditto!!

Josh was not upset about the silly lie detector. He was just being "salty"... like Nick was when she wasn't "miming" attention his way, thanks to some... distraction. Distraction not available when the five of hearts team lost in Connecticut. That is why Josh commented on this date being so much different than the last three group dates... all three without her being "distracted".

She only did the silly lie detector test to "sniff" out her secret admirer. That gal was just all giggly when saying "There's a part of me that is, like, why did I rip it up? It was just... I think it was more about just wanting to know some of the answers." (Cue HUGE smile to The Distraction.)

Josh was sure a sourpuss at the GD cocktail party - did he smile even once when it was just the guys sitting around talking?

He was probably thinking about how bad their last conversation went and how he could put them on the right track again.
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Post by nannymargie Tue Jun 24, 2014 5:43 pm

Aunties_Love wrote:
nannymargie wrote:
Aunties_Love wrote:
Piper61 wrote:So far, there have been no walking skeletons coming out of Josh's closet, and the rest of the story is yet to unfold.  Hugesmile   
I am sorry, but I got the feeling he's hiding something.  Otherwise, why would be be so worried about trust, the lie detector and other things when the other guys are concerned but aren't whining about it.

I don't think he is hiding anything.  Andi is the one having problems because of his type cheating on her.
If he's not hiding anything, then why in the heck is it Andi's problem when all we hear from Josh is the constant whining that it's not fair for him to take the test and about trust issues when ALL of the other guys took the test.  Why is HE the only one having the issue??

Because the others are being accused of their type cheating on her.
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