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Post by nannymargie Tue Jun 24, 2014 4:46 pm

Aunties_Love wrote:
nannymargie wrote:I am getting so tired of this being the Nick show.  He is getting too confident and cocky.  I guess that will be his downfall at the end.  He never once thought that she could be having a better connection with someone else.
LOL, I was thinking this "Josh show" is getting old too.  All the whining he's been doing lately.  But that's just me.

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Post by SueSt Tue Jun 24, 2014 4:46 pm

nannymargie wrote:I am getting so tired of this being the Nick show.  He is getting too confident and cocky.  I guess that will be his downfall at the end.  He never once thought that she could be having a better connection with someone else.
Hi Nannymargie, I can actually understand this comment about not believing she could have a better connection with someone else. I took it to mean that he was so overwhelmed about her that he can't imagine that she could feel the same way about someone else. I thought it was a sweet way to admit the depth of his feelings. I see him as a guy that is gobsmacked with love, totally overcome by his feelings.
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Post by Aunties_Love Tue Jun 24, 2014 4:46 pm

nannymargie wrote:
Aunties_Love wrote:
Piper61 wrote:
GuardianAngel wrote:I have no favourites. I see Josh, from epi 1 as wanting to win this competition. If all the guys had to take a lie detector test, why is Josh questioning whether Andi trust's him or not. He wasn't the only one that had to take the test. If someone questions an issue regarding trust, if you are totally innocent, then you have nothing to worry about. If you're defensive, then you're possibly hiding something. Maybe that's just what my own personal reaction would be.

He is the only one that got the suit of armour shot though! I can't remember what the question was, maybe it was, "are you here for the right reasons"? music, suit of armour shot. Maybe someone who has the ability to re watch that part can let me know.

As far as Nick taking Andi for alone time first, this happens all the time. Even though he had a rose, I say go for it. Whether it's man code or not, he obviously didn't care. Josh whined he wanted to take her aside too, so why didn't he? He had the same opportunity, as did everyone else.
All of the guys who had to take the lie detector test have not been in the same situation pre-show nor on the show with Andi as Josh has.  All of the guys also have not been stereotyped "athlete jock" like Josh has, and have not crossed Andi's radar in that regard.  This is very different for Josh in this situation IMO than the other guys.  I wish Andi could see the results, because Josh in fact, could be one of the three guys who didn't register as lying.  Josh had to have been feeling great after his 1-on-1 date conversation with Andi about moving past the stereotype of cheating athlete to someone Andi could trust is being honest and there for the right reasons.  He explained how hard it was having his GF not trust him, and having her believe her friends when they would say he was probably cheating on her.  In fact, he wasn't, but she did.
I agree with you GA.  As far as the whining that Josh is making...enough already!  Making excuses as to why Josh is the ONLY one that is having a hard time with trust is beyond me.  ALL the guys had to take the test and some were uneasy(obviously seen), but Josh whining like that was redicilous in this situation.  The guy is hiding something.  That's the only real thing that makes sense.

I am on Josh's side on this one.  Andi has NOT been grilling the other guys like she does Josh.  She doesn't have the trust issues with the other guys either.  Josh is taking the brunt of her past relationship when they cheated on her.  She is putting Josh thru the wringer and she admitted that much.  So I can see where it might get frustrating at times for him not to be trusted when he has done nothing to make her feel that way.  She even admitted she may be heading for heart break and he told her not with him she won't.  At this point Josh has his job cut out for him to convince her of that to where she finally believes him.
Sorry, but she has been grilling the other guys too. To say she hasn't just doesn't make sense. She's been asking all of the F4 guys their life's story etc so to say that she's only picking on Josh isn't correct. The fact that Josh can't take things in stride with the lie detector like that tells me he's hiding something...plain and simple and as we have been seeing, it's also a big, HUGE red flag to Andi too. I just hope that Andi finds it before it's too late.


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Post by SueSt Tue Jun 24, 2014 4:48 pm

Aunties_Love wrote:
Sorry, but she has been grilling the other guys too.  To say she hasn't just doesn't make sense.  She's been asking all of the F4 guys their life's story etc so to say that she's only picking on Josh isn't correct.  The fact that Josh can't take things in stride with the lie detector like that tells me he's hiding something...plain and simple and as we have been seeing, it's also a big, HUGE red flag to Andi too.  I just hope that Andi finds it before it's too late.
totally agree with this Aunties! :-)
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Post by SLA44 Tue Jun 24, 2014 4:50 pm

SueSt wrote:
Aunties_Love wrote:
Sorry, but she has been grilling the other guys too.  To say she hasn't just doesn't make sense.  She's been asking all of the F4 guys their life's story etc so to say that she's only picking on Josh isn't correct.  The fact that Josh can't take things in stride with the lie detector like that tells me he's hiding something...plain and simple and as we have been seeing, it's also a big, HUGE red flag to Andi too.  I just hope that Andi finds it before it's too late.
totally agree with this Aunties!  :-)

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Post by pavalygurl Tue Jun 24, 2014 4:50 pm

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MiaHawk wrote:Ok, this is what I really want to know about last night's show.....

Going on the assumption that all 6 men were asked the exact same questions, we know that 3 told no lies, 2 told 2 lies, and 1 told 3 lies.  Then in the outtakes at the end of the show, we heard the man ask in a very heavy accent:  "Have you ever fought in public?"  Watching the show, we all know that the 6 men had confused or humorous looks on their faces when asked that question.  They could have interpreted the word to be "farted" or "f*cked", right?  ("Have you ever f*cked in the pubic?"...swear he said that once or twice myself!)  All 6 men answered "yes" to that question.

So, here's where my catlike curiosity comes in...
Who do you think were the 3 men who told no lies?  And, for those 3 men, what question do you think they were answering?  "Farted" or "F*cked"?
With a season this boring and predictable, this is what I am resorting to!
I think the honest were: Dylan, Brian and Chris, also. 
I absolutely thought they heard the word "f*ck" vs "fought. But I can see it being fart--but then would that explain the bleeping? IDK. I think you can say the word fart on tv and not have it censored.

When watching the deleted scene, the first couple of times the investigator asked, it was hard to tell, but then I clearly heard "f*ucked". Agree the three who did not lie for the same reasons stated.

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Post by nannymargie Tue Jun 24, 2014 4:52 pm

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Piper61 wrote:So far, there have been no walking skeletons coming out of Josh's closet, and the rest of the story is yet to unfold.  Hugesmile   
I am sorry, but I got the feeling he's hiding something.  Otherwise, why would be be so worried about trust, the lie detector and other things when the other guys are concerned but aren't whining about it.

I don't think he is hiding anything. Andi is the one having problems because of his type cheating on her.
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Post by 2observe Tue Jun 24, 2014 4:55 pm

What I found interesting about Andi and Nick's date was that she was taking pictures of them as a couple.  Why would she want pictures with her F2 or F3???  That and the fact that he got the more impressive/expensive date leads me to believe that Nick is F1.


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Post by Piper61 Tue Jun 24, 2014 4:55 pm

nannymargie wrote:
Aunties_Love wrote:
Piper61 wrote:So far, there have been no walking skeletons coming out of Josh's closet, and the rest of the story is yet to unfold.  Hugesmile   
I am sorry, but I got the feeling he's hiding something.  Otherwise, why would be be so worried about trust, the lie detector and other things when the other guys are concerned but aren't whining about it.

I don't think he is hiding anything.  Andi is the one having problems because of his type cheating on her.
I really feel it is that simple, NM, and we may be in the minority of thinking.
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Post by Retiredswimmom Tue Jun 24, 2014 4:57 pm

I have a question for everybody.
What happened to the segment where Andi cried and said something like: "there's no fairy tale. I know it was too good to be true". Then took the mike off. We know it was in Venice. She had the same dress on the GD night. If they didn't show it then it was not relevant? I'm concluded it she cried over Josh.

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Post by pavalygurl Tue Jun 24, 2014 4:57 pm

[quote="MiaHawk"]
Luvstruck wrote:My take on no lies .....Chris (most sincere guy according to Andi), Brian (promised his mom he'd go to church after stripping), & Dylan ( for goodness sakes he even said he didn't wash his hands after bathroom) .  As to which question they were answering I thought the question was have you ever fought in public with all the guys saying they had.......Some did laugh though at the pronunciation for fought


Ok, I can see Chris, Brian, and Dylan as the truth sayers.  But do you really think all 3 have fought in public?  I may be wrong, but, I cannot see Chris or Brian fighting in the streets.  Sorry, but Dylan's from Boston, so I can kind of picture it, laugh out loud.[/quote

I'm not from Boston, but in my younger days I hardly knew a guy, or cousin who hadn't ^^^


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Post by nd4reality Tue Jun 24, 2014 4:57 pm

2observe wrote:What I found interesting about Andi and Nick's date was that she was taking pictures of them as a couple.  Why would she want pictures with her F2 or F3???  That and the fact that he got the more impressive/expensive date leads me to believe that Nick is F1.

IDK about it being more expensive but her blog devoted to a large chunk to Nick and that told me that he is front and centre for her.


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