Re: Bachelorette 10 - Screencaps Analysis Thread - *Spoilers & Speculation* Thread #2

[stuckinsc]

Interestingly, I thought I heard the family talking about Aaron going to the KCChiefs at the meal- weeks before the draft.  Of course, he had probably been to visit a few teams.  We may only hear about the Chiefs but they might have talked about multiple possibilities.

It was a big weekend for the Murray family, for sure.  But I'm sure they were interested in what everyone is doing.  Tptb are going to make us think they're singularly involved in Aaron's life, but I'm sure it's not true.

Teams will often have verbal discussions or even personal interviews with players going into the draft just to get a feel for them or whatever they may be looking at.  I think we hear Aaron saying he had had phone conversations with the Chiefs.  

I know the Atlanta Falcons had Jadaveon Clowney (South Carolina Player) in for an interview  (maybe even twice?) but then did not pick him in the draft.

They might have wanted to, but they didn't want to trade up to get him. That gamecock did go #1 after all!

I was really hoping Aaron would go sooner, but think he got on a great team.

[cindebugg]

^^Thanks, doc, regarding the draft info...so Josh's return would have been after the draft if the spoiler info is correct.

From the episode description for the HTDs, I think it's safe to assume all the caps I posted on the previous page were indeed from the Tampa date.

FYI, last night I was thinking the yellow ribbon/bracelet Josh was wearing during the hotel discussion was different from the post season yellow ribbon/bracelet. Someone (sorry, don't remember who), however, thought it was the same. I actually now think that poster is correct. This cap shows the "knot" or "tie" from the post season bracelet. So when does Josh add the purple part?   

He also had this on in the HTD pictures.

The yellow bracelet showed up in the middle of the daytime portion of their Ghent date. My guess is that it's ribbon off of the candy they bought. Looks like Andi made Josh a friendship bracelet.  

[pander3575]

^^Thanks, doc, regarding the draft info...so Josh's return would have been after the draft if the spoiler info is correct.

From the episode description for the HTDs, I think it's safe to assume all the caps I posted on the previous page were indeed from the Tampa date.

FYI, last night I was thinking the yellow ribbon/bracelet Josh was wearing during the hotel discussion was different from the post season yellow ribbon/bracelet. Someone (sorry, don't remember who), however, thought it was the same. I actually now think that poster is correct. This cap shows the "knot" or "tie" from the post season bracelet. So when does Josh add the purple part?   

He also had this on in the HTD pictures.

The yellow bracelet showed up in the middle of the daytime portion of their Ghent date. My guess is that it's ribbon off of the candy they bought.  Looks like Andi made Josh a friendship bracelet.  

Interesting. Now we need to see if he continues to wear it.

[Alanna]

I wonder when the purple ribbon came into play. Good catch!

[soccermom333]

I believe the yellow ribbon could be from their time at the candy store, but the purple ribbon was probably after he "won," and it represents Andi's alma mater. ;) Just my opinion.

[cindebugg]

I wonder when the purple ribbon came into play. Good catch!

I don't know but I'm going to be keeping an eye out for it.

[Guest]

Just posted about this in his thread... not sure which of the 2 threads I should use!

[Litta123]

I'm not really sure which thread this should go in. It has some PI stuff, editing stuff and just plain old screen caps. I'm sticking it here. I noticed some interesting PIs that didn't match the location, or in some cases, clothes of Andi/Josh in the evening portion of their Belgium date. Stay with me as this is kind of long. Also, I'm not half as good of a transcriber as JBF. Mostly, I just describe the dialog, but when I quote it, no doubt I made mistakes...

The evening portion starts with Andi and Josh walking into the castle in these clothes.



We then get a VO/PI of Andi in a different outfit and a different location than her other Brussels's PI. Perhaps this is the mansion...post HTDs or post filming. Basically Andi is saying how Josh hasn't told her how he's feeling. Says both Marcus and Nick have. If Josh doesn't open up tonight, it will be tough seeing herself going to his HT.



Then the scene switches back to the castle where they talk about GDs versus this date. Josh assures her what they have is not too good to be true.

Next we see another Andi PI in the typical Brussels location that Andi has been in -- same lamp as in her hotel room from earlier when she checks in. She is in the outfit from the afternoon's Goose Parade. She basically says that she would love for Josh to say he's falling in love. Wonders if he just does not feel it.



Then we switch back to the castle scene where Josh tells Andi he's falling in love with her. FYI, she feels "comforted" by him saying that. I found that to be an interesting way of describing her feelings, basically implying that it was important for her to know that and it gave her assurance. For those who watched JPG's season, you might recall assurance was a big deal to Andi.

Then we have Andi in this PI -- back to the date outfit, but new location...looks to be post filming. She says, "He finally says that he is falling in love. I wanted so badly for Josh to say those words just to like, feel like, this is real." (My thoughts -- that sentiment seemed to be really huge for her.)



Then it switches back to the castle where after finishing their makeout, Andi tells Josh she has one more thing for him. Then he kisses her against the wall. I'm throwing this in for the Jodi fans.



This PI of Andi is next (similar to the one above) where Andi describes the band.



It's followed by a scene of them dancing. Next comes this PI of Josh who is in a location we've never seen before. Could it be from the DR? I suspect yes. He says, "I've been waiting to tell her that I've been falling in love with her. It's been on my mind, and I've been wanting to let her know. But at the same time, it's tough being vulnerable not really knowing exactly what I would get in return.



So, what do I make of all of this? I've been sitting on the fence between Nick and Josh, but more and more I think Josh is F1. These PIs continue to set up the obstacle that Josh must overcome. Can Andi trust his feelings for her? Next week's HTD seems to put the dilemma of Josh's family taking a higher place in his life than a possible relationship with Andi. What is Nick's dilemma? He is no longer a skeptic. It's resolved. His only real conflict seems to be with the guys not Andi.

Why would TPTB put all this extra Josh storyline in post season if Josh is not F1? I'm not seeing this extra stuff with Nick or have I missed it?

Can anyone give me a good counter argument to what I've posted?

P.S. We also had some weird PI stuff with Andi during the afternoon portion of their date. Andi was dressed like this during the Goose Parade.



But some of her PIs during that time appear like this -- different outfit from that afternoon and probable location being the mansion. I have no idea what she was saying in this PI because I didn't go back to listen. As Andi would say, "I'm exhausted!"   

[foodie]

^This last PI screencap looks like the shirt she wears on Josh's hometown day date before meeting the parents

[Alanna]

Litta, is your real name Sharleen?? I tease because she posted the same exact theory in her recap- they're adding in a bunch of random stuff to Josh's storyline in terms of PIs that he needs to overcome.

[GuardianAngel]

Sorry to ask….I don't know if it matters, but I noticed a few things in Monday's episode and also deleted scenes on abc that I am wondering if anyone has captured them or discussed them at all.

# 1 - During Nick and the guys talking about his Strategy (episode+deleted) there is times where Nick doesn't have a rose on his jacket when he is talking….so I question what is truly being discussed is totally edited and a full flowing conversation as it seems

#2 - Again during Nick's RC ITM where you see him crying and discussing Andi he is wearing the same suit/tie etc. as during RC on Monday's episode but he is not wearing a rose.  So when he is emotional that is at a later time because he doesn't have a rose on….can someone capture these or tell me if anyone talked about this.  Thanks

Yes! A few of us noticed it and posted in the epi thread while we were watching the show. It goes to show you they film those ITM's at so many different times and not when it's actually happening. I find it all fascinating how the viewers have no clue but the sleuthers pick it up so easily!

Great job everyone on the caps. Wow!

[Litta123]

Litta, is your real name Sharleen?? I tease because she posted the same exact theory in her recap- they're adding in a bunch of random stuff to Josh's storyline in terms of PIs that he needs to overcome.

Haha! Yes, Litta spelled backwards is Sharleen.   

Seriously, I've been working on this post since late afternoon with a break for dinner with my husband. I had no idea that Sharleen was thinking along the same lines. Interesting! These "extras" really only makes sense to me if Josh is F1. Have TPTB ever gone to such lengths to fill in the storyline of anyone that is F2? or F3? or F4? I can't think of any? I would love to hear of it if it exists.

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