Re: Nick Viall - Bachelorette 10 Contestant - Spoilers - Discussion - Thread #2

[albean99]

I'm very torn on whether the video is for real or not but if it's a foiler than I think Nick had some fun with it. The point of the video in that case was to fool RS and what he said about Andi or Josh didn't mean anything. I didn't think what he said about Andi was bad in any case. His basic point was that she ended up going with what she was used to because she was scared or it was easier. Not too complimentary if she is with Josh but the f2 has been treated pretty badly so should be given some slack.

Either way the cheetos cracked me up.   

[california90]

Yeah..I think whoever told RS that Nick wasn't well liked must be from someone else's camp- possibly Josh's to get back at what he said in those video. It seems like Nick had friends.

[nutty1]

He also said Nikki was a total bitch last season.

[Alanna]

I'm very torn on whether the video is for real or not but if it's a foiler than I think Nick had some fun with it. The point of the video in that case was to fool RS and what he said about Andi or Josh didn't mean anything. I didn't think what he said about Andi was bad in any case. His basic point was that she ended up going with what she was used to because she was scared or it was easier. Not too complimentary if she is with Josh but the f2 has been treated pretty badly so should be given some slack.

Either way the cheetos cracked me up.    

This argument and line of thinking reminds me of the endless debates we had when Ben retweeted a blog that made fun of Ashley- that it's not so bad, it's funny, Ash/Andi have a sense of humor, etc. The thing is these girls may have a sense of humor or "get it" but not to the extent of being okay with their f1 participating. JP did a vlog in which he spent the entire time defending Ash later in the season, and I have no doubt that Andi's f1 will spend as much time sticking up for her as he can. This video can be fake, Andi may be single or with Chris or Marcus but definitely not with Nick. And with that, I promise to stop boring all ya'll (homage to our heroine here) with this argument.

[notarose]

WOW Nutty, rockin' avi  

[nutty1]

WOW Nutty, rockin' avi  

Thanks!!!   

[albean99]

I'm very torn on whether the video is for real or not but if it's a foiler than I think Nick had some fun with it. The point of the video in that case was to fool RS and what he said about Andi or Josh didn't mean anything. I didn't think what he said about Andi was bad in any case. His basic point was that she ended up going with what she was used to because she was scared or it was easier. Not too complimentary if she is with Josh but the f2 has been treated pretty badly so should be given some slack.

Either way the cheetos cracked me up.    

This argument and line of thinking reminds me of the endless debates we had when Ben retweeted a blog that made fun of Ashley- that it's not so bad, it's funny, Ash/Andi have a sense of humor, etc. The thing is these girls may have a sense of humor or "get it" but not to the extent of being okay with their f1 participating. JP did a vlog in which he spent the entire time defending Ash later in the season, and I have no doubt that Andi's f1 will spend as much time sticking up for her as he can. This video can be fake, Andi may be single or with Chris or Marcus but definitely not with Nick. And with that, I promise to stop boring all ya'll (homage to our heroine here) with this argument.

Well none of us actually know anything at this point including who Andi's with if anyone. I'm fine either way. I just find spoilers so boring & am always happy to see RS get fooled. I don't find Josh compelling as a f1. It's such a snooze if she ends up with the same type of guy she always dates and he lives in Atlanta. I'm also not completely buying his act right now. He's being a little too gushy for me. Just like I said with Nikki, it's her life and who she picks is up to her. I don't have to like them.

Great avi, Nutty!   

[black_tears]

I'm very torn on whether the video is for real or not but if it's a foiler than I think Nick had some fun with it. The point of the video in that case was to fool RS and what he said about Andi or Josh didn't mean anything. I didn't think what he said about Andi was bad in any case. His basic point was that she ended up going with what she was used to because she was scared or it was easier. Not too complimentary if she is with Josh but the f2 has been treated pretty badly so should be given some slack.

Either way the cheetos cracked me up.    

This argument and line of thinking reminds me of the endless debates we had when Ben retweeted a blog that made fun of Ashley- that it's not so bad, it's funny, Ash/Andi have a sense of humor, etc. The thing is these girls may have a sense of humor or "get it" but not to the extent of being okay with their f1 participating. JP did a vlog in which he spent the entire time defending Ash later in the season, and I have no doubt that Andi's f1 will spend as much time sticking up for her as he can. This video can be fake, Andi may be single or with Chris or Marcus but definitely not with Nick. And with that, I promise to stop boring all ya'll (homage to our heroine here) with this argument.

Well none of us actually know anything at this point including who Andi's with if anyone. I'm fine either way. I just find spoilers so boring & am always happy to see RS get fooled. I don't find Josh compelling as a f1. It's such a snooze if she ends up with the same type of guy she always dates and he lives in Atlanta. I'm also not completely buying his act right now. He's being a little too gushy for me. Just like I said with Nikki, it's her life and who she picks is up to her. I don't have to like them.

Great avi, Nutty!   

   

[notarose]

Has Chloe heard any inside scoop about the video or thoughts of it? Chloe, where are you??

I feel like everything I see on the show only further reaffirms what I've been said after the FRC(about Nick being realistic and skeptic and Andi trying her hardest to reassure him (and his fam), etc..(I mean she even said so herself in this week's episode.. that she wants "to make him a believer" etc..)) As far as I know the vid is legit.

Thanks Chloep, I thought I was remembering correctly....

Thanks Chloep for sharing the info you heard.

I understand what your saying however the premise is illogical to me. By that I mean, what purpose is there to her trying to reassure him if she then willing accepts Josh's proposal a week after Nick's HTD.  The only thing I can think of is that she enjoyed the challenge of trying to covert his way of thinking.  I would only see logic in this if she didn't get engaged to anyone.

The dinner conversation you are referring to from epi 3 was followed by his definitely committing to an attempt at exploring a relationship with her as seen in epi 4.  Every season participants have concerns: scepticism, inability to deal with the lead building relations with others, too little time to be sure of their feelings, etc. She admitted to her own scepticism on her 1-1 with Nick so one would think she would be empathetic rather than emphatic.  Besides, her own father was sceptical at HTD stating "come back when she's the only one".  Well.

I'm not seeing her focus on his scepticism in the process as coming from a caring place. She could have put more value on the man than on the process.  In fact, it appears he was justified in his scepticism if the spoilers are correct - be she engaged to Josh or someone else.

[bilolo]

We all see things through our own opinion.  I found this much nicer then Ben's reaction to Ashley.

I actually felt that Des enjoyed the crap that Brooks got at least at first.  Does this mean she did?  Who knows? I know that personally I didn't buy the quick turn around of Des being so in love with Chris at the FRC.  Now, since I can see that Des does love Chris and see how lucky she is to have him, so I am on board but at the time, nope I wasn't happy with her and didn't like her all that much.

I admit that my opinion colored my reaction to Des.  This season, I like all the guys a lot and Andi not so much.  So for me, I don't really care who she chooses. Right now, I want her to pick Nick because I actually like her around him.  If I see that change, then I probably won't want her with him either.  In that case, I will be hoping for F1 to reject her.  

I really can't state anything for fact, I have been wrong about things on this show before.  I could very well be wrong now, but truthfully, this video is just fishy.  It might be the perfect storm, but until Nick says, yup that was me and totally me uninfluenced it will seem weird to me.

But it doesn't make this one correct nor nice right ?
BTW i like Nick, he and Josh are my favorites but i wish he did not say all the things he said in the video. Not cool at all.  

[luvlady345]

I'm very torn on whether the video is for real or not but if it's a foiler than I think Nick had some fun with it. The point of the video in that case was to fool RS and what he said about Andi or Josh didn't mean anything. I didn't think what he said about Andi was bad in any case. His basic point was that she ended up going with what she was used to because she was scared or it was easier. Not too complimentary if she is with Josh but the f2 has been treated pretty badly so should be given some slack.

Either way the cheetos cracked me up.    

This argument and line of thinking reminds me of the endless debates we had when Ben retweeted a blog that made fun of Ashley- that it's not so bad, it's funny, Ash/Andi have a sense of humor, etc. The thing is these girls may have a sense of humor or "get it" but not to the extent of being okay with their f1 participating. JP did a vlog in which he spent the entire time defending Ash later in the season, and I have no doubt that Andi's f1 will spend as much time sticking up for her as he can. This video can be fake, Andi may be single or with Chris or Marcus but definitely not with Nick. And with that, I promise to stop boring all ya'll (homage to our heroine here) with this argument.

Well none of us actually know anything at this point including who Andi's with if anyone. I'm fine either way. I just find spoilers so boring & am always happy to see RS get fooled. I don't find Josh compelling as a f1. It's such a snooze if she ends up with the same type of guy she always dates and he lives in Atlanta. I'm also not completely buying his act right now. He's being a little too gushy for me. Just like I said with Nikki, it's her life and who she picks is up to her. I don't have to like them.

Great avi, Nutty!   

See for me I think IF Josh is F1, this is a lesson for anyone not to stereotype, no two people are alike just because they share the same profession.... I wish people would stop boxing people in to this square peg everyone brings something different to a relationship no matter how similar you think they are.....

[emad0722]

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But it doesn't make this one correct nor nice right ?
BTW i like Nick, he and Josh are my favorites but i wish he did not say all the things he said in the video. Not cool at all.  [/quote]

See its interesting because I thought his video showed raw real emotion without being too mean or disrespectful. He was disappointed obviously that they didnt end up in a relationship but he was level headed about it all if you ask me. His complaints about Josh would just come from a place of frustration - and to say Andi is stubborn is hardly offensive to me. Maybe that is because I know I am stubborn and I am happy to admit that - my hubby tells me i am that way and I am ok with that cause its true. I dunno I honestly think the biggest reason I like Nick is that this video shows a real human not someone who was on a show to be famous.

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