Re: The Bachelorette 10 - *Final 1-F2* - Speculation * Sleuthing - Spoilers Thread #2

[Aunties_Love]

^He was spotted at Johnny Rockets which is a fast food type place that specializes in malts and burgers.

But he was spotted in Cancun...shades of Brooks and his cruise if you ask me.

I think the difference is that Josh flew to where the crew of TB was.  Brooks went on a cruise by himself.

I can't see Josh being a contestant on BIP.  What the audience will see is Josh getting his heart broken one week and the next week he's single and ready to mingle.  It negates the claim that people actually fall in love on the show.   For me there are only 2 options as to why Josh was there, A safe house visit or he's the next Bachelor.  If he's the next Bachelor he really needs to cut the yellow bracelet off.  

But at the same time as the BIP was filming?? I believe he had that yellow one before filming.

[nd4reality]

   To me, it's not comparable to Brooks going on a cruise and you articulated my thoughts on why it isn't precisely.

Until we have actual proof of why he spent almost 6 days in Cancun - that is still a piece of a grand puzzle that needs to be completed and cannot be assumed away.

nd, I'm just assuming away!    But understand why others are not/would not.     And I will continue to look for and contemplate all sleuthed information.  Now, where are those extended previews to be   !   It's so frustrating not having more.

Yes.

While I would consider some sleuthed information as likely quite a few in fact are purely circumstantial. I have yet to get an ah-ha moment which as it turns out any of these could be      .

[Piper61]

But he was spotted in Cancun...shades of Brooks and his cruise if you ask me.

I think the difference is that Josh flew to where the crew of TB was.  Brooks went on a cruise by himself.

I can't see Josh being a contestant on BIP.  What the audience will see is Josh getting his heart broken one week and the next week he's single and ready to mingle.  It negates the claim that people actually fall in love on the show.   For me there are only 2 options as to why Josh was there, A safe house visit or he's the next Bachelor.  If he's the next Bachelor he really needs to cut the yellow bracelet off.  

But at the same time as the BIP was filming??  I believe he had that yellow one before filming.

Before filming of the season began? If so, I don't think so. I believe we even have SCs that show (somewhere in another thread) that it appeared during the daytime portion of their Brussels date.

[Guest]

I think the difference is that Josh flew to where the crew of TB was.  Brooks went on a cruise by himself.

I can't see Josh being a contestant on BIP.  What the audience will see is Josh getting his heart broken one week and the next week he's single and ready to mingle.  It negates the claim that people actually fall in love on the show.   For me there are only 2 options as to why Josh was there, A safe house visit or he's the next Bachelor.  If he's the next Bachelor he really needs to cut the yellow bracelet off.  

But at the same time as the BIP was filming??  I believe he had that yellow one before filming.

Before filming of the season began? If so,  I don't think so.  I believe we even have SCs that show (somewhere in another thread) that it appeared during the daytime portion of their Brussels date.  

Yes, in his Josh (non fan) thread

[Piper61]

But at the same time as the BIP was filming??  I believe he had that yellow one before filming.

Before filming of the season began? If so,  I don't think so.  I believe we even have SCs that show (somewhere in another thread) that it appeared during the daytime portion of their Brussels date.  

Yes, in his Josh (non fan) thread

Thanks, sophie!

[SueSt]

talk about sleuthing... are we assuming this is a SH weekend?

[Aunties_Love]

I think the difference is that Josh flew to where the crew of TB was.  Brooks went on a cruise by himself.

I can't see Josh being a contestant on BIP.  What the audience will see is Josh getting his heart broken one week and the next week he's single and ready to mingle.  It negates the claim that people actually fall in love on the show.   For me there are only 2 options as to why Josh was there, A safe house visit or he's the next Bachelor.  If he's the next Bachelor he really needs to cut the yellow bracelet off.  

 To me, it's not comparable to Brooks going on a cruise and you articulated my thoughts on why it isn't precisely.

Until we have actual proof of why he spent almost 6 days in Cancun - that is still a piece of a grand puzzle that needs to be completed and cannot be assumed away.

I completely agree....to just let it go as oh he's there for safehouse, I really doubt that.  Since we don't know where Andi was, we can't confirm/deny that.

I think the difference is that Josh flew to where the crew of TB was.  Brooks went on a cruise by himself.

I can't see Josh being a contestant on BIP.  What the audience will see is Josh getting his heart broken one week and the next week he's single and ready to mingle.  It negates the claim that people actually fall in love on the show.   For me there are only 2 options as to why Josh was there, A safe house visit or he's the next Bachelor.  If he's the next Bachelor he really needs to cut the yellow bracelet off.  

To make sure I didn't miss anything, re the bolded, Josh flying to the crew of TB, did you meant BIP? How do we know he flew to where they were staying? I apologize if this has been discussed.

I don't think we know right now GA.  I guess it can easily be explained away as a safehouse visit, but is it really?  That would be too easily done.  I am wondering if he was on BIP.  I know RS states that he wasn't and it was a safehouse visit.  Did he get that info from the same one that told him that Josh was F1, or even better, the same person that told him that Brooks was F1 last season??  So many questions and no "real" answers right now.

I think the difference is that Josh flew to where the crew of TB was.  Brooks went on a cruise by himself.

I can't see Josh being a contestant on BIP.  What the audience will see is Josh getting his heart broken one week and the next week he's single and ready to mingle.  It negates the claim that people actually fall in love on the show.   For me there are only 2 options as to why Josh was there, A safe house visit or he's the next Bachelor.  If he's the next Bachelor he really needs to cut the yellow bracelet off.  

To make sure I didn't miss anything, re the bolded, Josh flying to the crew of TB, did you meant BIP? How do we know he flew to where they were staying? I apologize if this has been discussed.

Exactly.  He was in Cancun with Andi and I bet in a much better place than BIP contestants!  LOL  I bet they mention this on the Atfr show.  But then again, maybe not.  The bugs were awful there according to Cat and Molly.  Andi tweeted that can of bug spray remember??  In Spanish none the less.  She was there imo.  s\She hates bugs too!!!    :cutesmile!:

 My question to you Soccermom...How do we KNOW that he and Andi were together and there for a safehouse visit.  We don't absolutely know that right now.  IMO.

[Ash2214]

^ We definitely have proof that in two weeks, including the weekends, Andi has not left Atlanta other than that three day period where she was spotted with her mother visiting her grandmother in Florida. If we go by the understanding that Andi's first safe house visit was Memorial Day weekend, which I'm in strong belief that it was, especially considering that weekend marked two weeks since the finale was taped and they're supposed to meet every other weekend and you include the weekend she had ABC commitments in Nashville, then last weekend should have technically been a safe house visit, but we have proof she was in Atlanta.

As of today, the only weekend I don't know of her whereabouts in the past 4 weeks was the same week Josh was spotted in Cancun. We didn't get much from her on social media and no sightings in Atlanta or the airport. Either way, I think this weekend should be telling. If we get sightings of her this weekend in Atlanta or somewhere in Georgia it will mark at least three weeks of her not leaving Atlanta for a safe house visit. We have gotten sightings of her during the week in Atlanta, so it appears even during the week she's still home. It's possible that her F1 is flying to see her during the week or it's possible that her F1 lives in Atlanta, so they technically don't need the typical safe house visits every other weekend.

[Piper61]

^^^No, we don't have confirmed proof. Andi was not spotted flying anywhere at the time Josh was spotted in the Cancun airport. I don't think Andi was spotted anywhere during the time Josh was perceived to be in Cancun or thereabouts. However, a day or two following Josh's departure, Andi was in CA for some reason. How and when did she get there? It can be speculated that she somehow arrived in Cancun for a SH visit, and then it's a short flight from their to CA. Again, this is speculation but why doesn't anyone see her around any airports to and from?    If I have missed something, I am sure someone can identify and let me (us) know.

[Aunties_Love]

^^^No, we don't have confirmed proof.  Andi was not spotted flying anywhere at the time Josh was spotted in the Cancun airport.  I don't think Andi was spotted anywhere during the time Josh was perceived to be in Cancun or thereabouts.  However, a day or two following Josh's departure, Andi was in CA for some reason.  How and when did she get there?  It can be speculated that she somehow arrived in Cancun for a SH visit, and then it's a short flight from their to CA.  Again, this is speculation but why doesn't anyone see her around any airports to and from?     If I have missed something, I am sure someone can identify and let me (us) know.

Just so I understand, are you talking about Josh's departure to or from cancun.

[pander3575]

If I remember correctly the only airport sighting we have of Andi is the one where she went to Nashville for the media stuff. Does anyone else remember any? In my mind it is so much easier for a woman to be in disguise than a man so IF the Cancun was a safe house visit she could have flown in and out without anyone being aware of it. We don't know for a fact that it was a safe house visit but it is strange that she posted the picture of the Spanish Off can during that very same timeframe.

[Piper61]

^^^No, we don't have confirmed proof.  Andi was not spotted flying anywhere at the time Josh was spotted in the Cancun airport.  I don't think Andi was spotted anywhere during the time Josh was perceived to be in Cancun or thereabouts.  However, a day or two following Josh's departure, Andi was in CA for some reason.  How and when did she get there?  It can be speculated that she somehow arrived in Cancun for a SH visit, and then it's a short flight from their to CA.  Again, this is speculation but why doesn't anyone see her around any airports to and from?     If I have missed something, I am sure someone can identify and let me (us) know.

Just so I understand, are you talking about Josh's departure to or from cancun.

I believe it's during the time of both.

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