*NO SPOILERS* The Bachelorette 10 - Episode Discussion

Maggenzm wrote:

in2deep wrote:Don't worry, Nanny. Josh isn't going far. If in some act of inexplicable (ok, fear driven) can't-pick-the-TGTBT (too good to be true) and Andi picks the Other, Josh will be picked up for TB faster than you can say "tThe Powers That Be."  But I am in the Can't Hide the Love camp. In fact, I have a tent there and am toasting marshmallows.

Too funny in2deep! I am with you. I can't see her letting him go at all.I just can't happen, they are too good of a fit. JMO

Besides that we've got that baseball thing going on. Roberto, Chris S and so Josh needs to be F1 to keep it rolling.  

Lost17 wrote:

pander3575 wrote:She's really fighting to get away isn't she?

  

nanny love your avi! Nick has done a few odd things whenever he kisses Andi, he's just not romantic to me.

I love my avi too.  MJ makes so many pretty ones that it is hard to choose.  But in all the pics of Jodi he always has her in some form of embrace.  She has to be in heaven with him.

We have a famous personality here in the Philippines who's known for her expression, "Love, love, love!" (kris Aquino, daughter of a former president)

I cannot help saying "Love, Love, Love" whenever I read our posts here! We are all LOVE, LOVE, LOVE! Hahaha  *highfivesallaround*

We are all TeamJosh and I find it amazing how we are unanimous with our unspoiled observations! If it turns out the spoilers are for The Other (In2Deep) and we are being laughed at, at least, we're idiots TOGETHER!  

Love, love, love,

WW   

Cari wrote:We have a famous personality here in the Philippines who's known for her expression, "Love, love, love!" (kris Aquino, daughter of a former president)

I cannot help saying "Love, Love, Love" whenever I read our posts here! We are all LOVE, LOVE, LOVE! Hahaha  *highfivesallaround*

We are all TeamJosh and I find it amazing how we are unanimous with our unspoiled observations! If it turns out the spoilers are for The Other (In2Deep) and we are being laughed at, at least, we're idiots TOGETHER!  

Love, love, love,

WW   

This is another clue. See, you all are not influence by all the outside information. I must admit, Josh and Andi just fit, their love for one another is really undeniable, I see a love that is intertwined. And I just can't see her choosing someone else. We shall see!!

WW-  If on the off chance she did pick an other, ya right,    it's all there and we're mostly all seeing the same thing...I don't think any of us would be complaining!  

nanny agree, who wouldn't love to be embraced like that. Must be why I'm partial to Josh, my hubby does the same thing.  

nannymargie wrote:

Lost17 wrote:

pander3575 wrote:She's really fighting to get away isn't she?

  

nanny love your avi! Nick has done a few odd things whenever he kisses Andi, he's just not romantic to me.

I love my avi too.  MJ makes so many pretty ones that it is hard to choose.  But in all the pics of Jodi he always has her in some form of embrace.  She has to be in heaven with him.

JODI?!

As in, Josh and Andi?!

How adorable is that?   

And Lost, I may be WW on who TPTB might "pick" in the end, I may super like Nick

BUT am not WW on Jodi!  :hearts love: 

LibbyBell wrote:I saw this in the SC No Discussion thread and thought I'd share this observation! Pure speculation on my part but I think it might have been a thought that it was Andi and Chris kissing all sexy under the arch in the castle!!  To be fair, there were other pictures - and one with Josh in the same posting (I clipped the photos that I wasn't discussing) - but it struck me that there was this one of Chris with the peak in front and then the arrow pointing to the peak in the arch picture.

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ETA: i2d-- save me a marshmallow!!

pander3575 wrote:There was speculation that it might have been Chris kissing Andi but Soph was able to match up the bricks of Josh's date in Ghent.   We had the Chris fans vs the Josh fans

Libby, my twinsie (avi)!  

Aside from. Pander's info that confirmed it as Jodi, you might have missed my post where Litta, our resident SC Queen discussing that mysterious SC. It was exactly Jodi's date in Belgium where Andi was wearing the same sweater (and ponytailed hair in that particular SC). Click hidden spoiler below for reference.

Speaking of that SC , excuse me and I'll rewind that kiss on the wall again!      

click here,  twinsies!:

in2deep wrote:Ok, I just watched the deleted scenes and the preview.  ITA that Josh is all in. He has made it abundantly clear now that she can expect a proposal from him - he has said that he will only say ILY to the woman he is going to propose to, snd we see him say ILY in the preview. And the ten roses - he could not be sweeter or more romantic.  The silly part of Andi loved Shake Face, and she sees fitting in.

Nick's confidence may be his ruin. I agree that his edit is heartbreak with no break, that is, in the F3 but neither F1 nor TB.  Poor, salty Nick.

Chris' humility and gentility are arcing only now, so my money is on TB: Farmer Gets a Wife (wait, isn't that a series already?).

The only thing this franchise hadn't seen is f2 and f3 being sent home after the fantasy dates. But then there isn't the drama intended for the finale.  So i don't see this.

I am now only vacillating about who is f2 and who is f3. Current call is Nick f3 and Chris f2 and TB.

I sm so much more interested in the Bachelorette than in the Bachelor. The dynamics are so different, the men are such hunks, and the women have, IMO, a better grasp on their emotions.  

18 days until the finale.  Who here will remain unspoiled?

The only reason I never see the F3 and F2 going after FD is then the F1 would know.  Sure they could be the "will he or won't he" propose, but I think they like to have the F1 nervous when he meets the parents, but more importantly at the FRC.  So while they could have doubt for the viewers there wouldn't be any for the F1.  They lose a lot by doing that early I think.  However, letting the F2 go either before the MTP or the LCD is very possible this season as they have given viewers enough doubt on will he or won't he propose.  They continued to created that doubt with the majority of viewers by not airing the deleted scene where he said he would propose.

I still see Nick as F2, but it definitely became a closer race last week.  The ONLY reason I can't see Chris as F2 over Nick is the edit.  TPTB have been setting this up as Nick/Josh all season. So for me Chris F2 makes no sense.

I also much prefer the Bachelorette to the Bachelor.  Mainly because A) MORE MEN! and B) I have usually liked the leads better.

I have had my moments, but I'm past them and am firmly on the Unspoiled Train for the rest of the season.

GrahamGal wrote:
I also much prefer the Bachelorette to the Bachelor.  Mainly because A) MORE MEN! and B) I have usually liked the leads better.

I have had my moments, but I'm past them and am firmly on the Unspoiled Train for the rest of the season.

Agree! Was almost spoiled today, saw an US magazine at the store and came thisclose to opening it! 3 more weeks, right? Hard not knowing...what's going on behind the scenes, if "Josh" proposed, are they still as in love as we think they are, did she pick Nick and at the ATFR did she decide she wanted Josh instead...so many possibilities!   

Wow, thought JODI was a misspelling, haha, that went right over my head!!  

pander3575 wrote:

LibbyBell wrote: I will (remain unspoiled) i2d!
I agree F2&3 going at FS have never been done and mostly won't happen this time either BUT with the edit they've done this far: too good to be true, does he or doesn't he, can I trust him, etc... If they were ever going to do it...now would be a good time. Again, I don't truly see it happening but it would certainly be interesting if they did.

ETA-- pander, are we touching on the same type of issues or are we talking about totally different issues?

You're touching on a lot of the same discussions on the spoiled side.  However there we have a lot more sm to try and make sense with.   Sometimes you just don't know what someone is actually meaning in their sm so people project.  We all read things differently.  Here it's just figuring out what the show is trying to tell us which is why I said it's without the noise.   

It's interesting that you mention sm.  I know many people have been spoiled over the years from sm, but I for one have never been unless I have chosen to be.  Exception was the night before Des finale I was "spoiled" that Brooks came back.  We all know how that turned out.  Now I don't follow many on FB as that is mostly family and friend (plus I am hardly on it), and I stay off IG.  I am active on twitter and follow Andi, Josh, Marcus, Dylan, JJ, and Tasos for most of the season along with producers, directors, etc.  In fact after last week I started following Cody and Chris.  Thing is I read their tweets, but I never read into them.  An example would be Josh tweeting a pic of him and his sibs at his Grandpa's 80th BD party last month.  Now I just see it for what it is, but if I was on the spoiled side I may have looked at every little detail for clues.  I'll be interested to find out what sm clues people where discussing because I haven't found anything, but I haven't been looking.  Only time I almost got spoiled this season was when I was actual doing a search for a Cancun vacation, but what I found could lead to 3 different outcomes for that person and place them anywhere from F1-F15 so I let lav know so the spoiled side could dissect it and moved on.  Of course Bachelor Nation has their favs and opinions on who they like, but they are just opinions, at least to me.

alwaystulips wrote:

in2deep wrote:Ok, I just watched the deleted scenes and the preview.  ITA that Josh is all in. He has made it abundantly clear now that she can expect a proposal from him - he has said that he will only say ILY to the woman he is going to propose to, snd we see him say ILY in the preview. And the ten roses - he could not be sweeter or more romantic.  The silly part of Andi loved Shake Face, and she sees fitting in.

Nick's confidence may be his ruin. I agree that his edit is heartbreak with no break, that is, in the F3 but neither F1 nor TB.  Poor, salty Nick.

Chris' humility and gentility are arcing only now, so my money is on TB: Farmer Gets a Wife (wait, isn't that a series already?).

The only thing this franchise hadn't seen is f2 and f3 being sent home after the fantasy dates. But then there isn't the drama intended for the finale.  So i don't see this.

I am now only vacillating about who is f2 and who is f3. Current call is Nick f3 and Chris f2 and TB.

I sm so much more interested in the Bachelorette than in the Bachelor. The dynamics are so different, the men are such hunks, and the women have, IMO, a better grasp on their emotions.  

18 days until the finale.  Who here will remain unspoiled?

 :WAVEY: I will too, in2deep!  I'm travelling some, so I'll miss a lot anyway.  But, I love reading here and trying to keep upl!  

Forgive me for not reading closely, but have the new screencaps given us any new clues?  Anything yet to show Nick or Chris are F1?

I'm probably being too simplistic, but for me, it's still:

F3 Chris.  I don't see passion in Andi's eyes.  Respect, friendship: yes.  Love: no.  She knows it, so why keep him to the end?

F2 Nick.  She has strong feelings for him, so a LCD will be important.  I think she really wants her parents thoughts about him.

F1 Josh.  Love is all over both their faces.  TPTB can hide their conversations and use ITMs any way they want, but they can't hide how they look at each other.  Unless they drop an edit bomb, like Cari suggested, it looks real to me.

ETA:  I meant to add that IA with the bolded.  It look like Nick's confidence was waning in the HTD, and I think the line about "glorifying the relationship" in the FS preview is about a past girlfriend.  Maybe TPTB will use that angle, his history in misreading relationships, to explain his over confidence with Andi.  Just a thought.

I tried to interpret the previews and thought I had it fingered out that Chris left at F3 early, but after over analyzing them I only became confused and am not sure that conclusion was correct. If I have time I will go back and see if I can figure out anything definitive.

Nick talking about misreading relationships in the past could be a clue to him be F2. Just as in the past, he misread his relationship with Andi.

LibbyBell wrote:I saw this in the SC No Discussion thread and thought I'd share this observation! Pure speculation on my part but I think it might have been a thought that it was Andi and Chris kissing all sexy under the arch in the castle!!  To be fair, there were other pictures - and one with Josh in the same posting (I clipped the photos that I wasn't discussing) - but it struck me that there was this one of Chris with the peak in front and then the arrow pointing to the peak in the arch picture.







ETA: i2d-- save me a marshmallow!!

The hair and the height difference are the only things that made me question if it was Chris or Josh.  The body language said Josh, but if this had ended up being Chris I would have had to seriously look at him as possible F1.  I knew the hair could be Josh, but with the lack of height difference I wondered how it could be him.  Had I know Andi was going to have on 20" heels then I probably would have though it was Josh all along.