Re: Nick Viall Bachelorette 10 - *Fan Forum* - *Spoilers* - Discussion

[sdmom]

I know this is Nick's fan thread, so that's why I want to ask you all.
The Off can is the one thing that convinces me Josh is F1. What are your thoughts on that?

I really don't know for sure.
First, that could be an old picture, or even from DR. We never saw her face so who knows when and where it was taken?
Second, don't they usually stay inside for safe house visit? If so, why did she need Off for?
Don't forget Nick was supposedly out of town during that period.
So, to me it could be a clue or part of the foil campaign   
Tbh, I don't really care if he's f1 or not. I just want him to be happy

[nutty1]

There have been pictures off safe house visits at the pool. And Jef and Emily took Rikki fishing somewhere.

[Hotmomma]

I know this is Nick's fan thread, so that's why I want to ask you all.
The Off can is the one thing that convinces me Josh is F1. What are your thoughts on that?

I really don't know for sure.
First, that could be an old picture, or even from DR. We never saw her face so who knows when and where it was taken?
Second, don't they usually stay inside for safe house visit? If so, why did she need Off for?
Don't forget Nick was supposedly out of town during that period.
So, to me it could be a clue or part of the foil campaign   
Tbh, I don't really care if he's f1 or not. I just want him to be happy

I think it could be a pold picture from the DR too maybe who she used it it with on their FD or LCD had to use it because the did a activity like a rainforest or jungle or horseback ride and need it? To me it's not a clue for Josh being F1. It still bugs me is why was Josh going to the DR anyway.

[nutty1]

You mean Cancun?
Drew was there too. But not on BIP.

[MVMom39forever]

Honestly, the biggest clue that the video is a hoax is you can't convince me that he hangs out at KMart.    No way. They haven't even been open in years where I live, are there any in his city?

Target, maybe (still weird), but KMart?! Weird.

HA! Well done. Target guy for sure.  

This is exactly what I posted on board back when I first heard plane video!
We hear couples looking forward to  Starbucks, movies, holding hands in public, dinner, whatever. But NEVER the friggin Kmart.

That has to be his wit at work unless someone in his family works there ... or Kmart is a big client for him at Salesforce.com and therefore top of mind.

http://www.simplyhired.com/job/salesforce-com-administrator-job/kmart/xcgnrqfggo

Now, back to work.   

Oops ... well ... ummm ... I still don't think he'd want to hang with Andi at Kmart ...   

[MVMom39forever]

I know this is Nick's fan thread, so that's why I want to ask you all.
The Off can is the one thing that convinces me Josh is F1. What are your thoughts on that?

I really don't know for sure.
First, that could be an old picture, or even from DR. We never saw her face so who knows when and where it was taken?
Second, don't they usually stay inside for safe house visit? If so, why did she need Off for?
Don't forget Nick was supposedly out of town during that period.
So, to me it could be a clue or part of the foil campaign   
Tbh, I don't really care if he's f1 or not. I just want him to be happy

I think it could be a pold picture from the DR too maybe who she used it it with on their FD or LCD had to use it because the did a activity like a rainforest or jungle or horseback ride and need it? To me it's not a clue for Josh being F1. It still bugs me is why was Josh going to the DR anyway.

I thought Off! Tweet was really strange. I do not think that ANdi was sending a shout out to let someone ... ???? fans??? ... know she was with Josh in Cancun after he was spotted boarded plane to Cancun. I actually took some time and looked at the type of things that Andi tweets about and she is a good little ABC ambassador ... always promoting Bachelorette and other ABC shows. She also tweets pictures of herself out with friends or she tweets out thanks to merchants who provided clothing or services.

But ... what I have not seen her do is tweet obscure shout out clues.

[unknown82]

If that plane Video is legit and what Nick said about how he reacted to Andi's rejection is true then I am happy.  If he is F2, I just don't want a repeat of Ben and Ashley's FRC!  That left a bad taste in my mouth.  But even if he reacted badly to being rejected, I have come to the realization that the only thing that matters after the show is done is that they are all out of the bubble and that the couple that comes out of this franchise actually makes it down the isle. So we can fan girl the final couple all we want but when they don't make it (Ali and Roberto) it is really sad. But when they do (Cathrine and Sean) it is a beautiful thing.

[stuckinsc]

So here we are after episode 6, and I am done with Andi for anyone I like. I wanted her to pick Nick this whole time, but each episode it gets harder and harder for me to like her and now I just want Nick to get away from her, just like I want Josh to get away from her.

Let's look at Andi's actions this season. She loved when Nick took her away from the cocktail party for their 1:1 "date" in epi 2. She was ecstatic and rude to Eric when she got the rose at the epi 3 cocktail party. The roses weren't rude, but ignoring Eric to read the note, really rude. Again, Nick is encouraged and rewarded by Andi for this. Episode 4, Eric upsets her and Nick comes to the rescue. She loves it, but it pisses the men off. So when the men get mad, she gets mad at Nick. Her reaction to being upset that Nick upset the other guys? Reward him with another 1:1 date out of order. He grovels enough to make her happy. Then Josh upsets her at the GD and he sweeps in to sweep her off her feet at the cocktail party again, and again she loves it. If she really cared about the other guys she would have gone in and greeted them first, but she didn't want to. If anything it probably made her happy to send Josh a message that he wasn't her only option.

Now we see Nick in the GD, episode 7, he isn't saying he is a better man than the other men, but that he is better for Andi. I agree with him. But is she going to punish him once again for doing something that makes her happy, but not her boy toys?

Nick deserves better and to me she is using him at this point to make Josh jealous.

Free Nick!

[unknown82]

So here we are after episode 6, and I am done with Andi for anyone I like.  I wanted her to pick Nick this whole time, but each episode it gets harder and harder for me to like her and now I just want Nick to get away from her, just like I want Josh to get away from her.

Let's look at Andi's actions this season.  She loved when Nick took her away from the cocktail party for their 1:1 "date" in epi 2.  She was ecstatic and rude to Eric when she got the rose at the epi 3 cocktail party.  The roses weren't rude, but ignoring Eric to read the note, really rude.  Again, Nick is encouraged and rewarded by Andi for this.  Episode 4, Eric upsets her and Nick comes to the rescue. She loves it, but it pisses the men off.  So when the men get mad, she gets mad at Nick.  Her reaction to being upset that Nick upset the other guys? Reward him with another 1:1 date out of order.  He grovels enough to make her happy. Then Josh upsets her at the GD and he sweeps in to sweep her off her feet at the cocktail party again, and again she loves it.  If she really cared about the other guys she would have gone in and greeted them first, but she didn't want to.  If anything it probably made her happy to send Josh a message that he wasn't her only option.

Now we see Nick in the GD, episode 7, he isn't saying he is a better man than the other men, but that he is better for Andi.  I agree with him.  But is she going to punish him once again for doing something that makes
her happy, but not her boy toys?

Nick deserves better and to me she is using him at this point to make Josh jealous.

Free Nick!

If that is the case and she used Nick to make Josh jealous, that would be pretty cold and heartless and Karma is a B****. But alas, I will give Andi the benefit of the doubt.

[Jen15]

Honestly, the biggest clue that the video is a hoax is you can't convince me that he hangs out at KMart.    No way. They haven't even been open in years where I live, are there any in his city?

Target, maybe (still weird), but KMart?! Weird.

HA! Well done. Target guy for sure.  

This is exactly what I posted on board back when I first heard plane video!
We hear couples looking forward to  Starbucks, movies, holding hands in public, dinner, whatever. But NEVER the friggin Kmart.

That has to be his wit at work unless someone in his family works there ... or Kmart is a big client for him at Salesforce.com and therefore top of mind.

http://www.simplyhired.com/job/salesforce-com-administrator-job/kmart/xcgnrqfggo

Now, back to work.   

Oops ... well ... ummm ... I still don't think he'd want to hang with Andi at Kmart ...   

Am thinking it's top of mind not b/c he shops there but b/c K/M is a client.

I'm back on the video is staged / Off is a red herring.   

[SueSt]

Can't get this off my mind: If Nick was F1 and Josh F2, wouldn't TPTB try and recruit Josh to be the bachelor... seems like he'd be the perfect choice... thoughts??

[Jen15]

Can't get this off my mind: If Nick was F1 and Josh F2, wouldn't TPTB try and recruit Josh to be the bachelor... seems like he'd be the perfect choice... thoughts??

Well!   .... I have a highly biased hypothesis that the edits of Josh, Marcus, and Chris, [side note: I'm on the Nick=F1 tinfoil hat bandwagon] while positive and deservedly flattering, are really light "F4" edits compared to other seasons. Why? I'm thinking that they would love to have Marquel Martin as the next bachelor.

If they go light on the edits for Josh, Marcus, and Chris, there is less chance for major campaigns for any of them as Bachelor - which paves the way for Marquel. I do adore Josh, but they have portrayed him as somewhat one-dimensional, which creative license allows for. I think he's a true gentleman with a big heart and a good head on his shoulders. And, he's the "same-old-great-handsome-white-guy" choice.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/emma-gray/marquel-the-bachelorette-race-racism_b_5501700.html?utm_hp_ref=tv&ir=TV

JPG was a "fiasco," so am thinking that they are floating Marquel out on BIP to test the waters, and see if his strength of character remains the same as what we have seen so far. (shameless metaphors acknowledged as a nod to the franchise meme.)

I'll throw out that we are seeing the best of three/four guys, but with no clear "Bach Front Runner" of the bunch in order to make way for the smart, funny, gentlemanly, family-oriented, sincere, and thought-provoking man that is Marquel.

Where is the Emoticon for, "no idea, but just wanted to share?"   

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