Nick Viall Bachelorette 10 - *Fan Forum* - *Spoilers* - Discussion - Thread #2

[GuardianAngel]

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[GuardianAngel]

MVmom39forever,
I absolutely love your post!  The thing that was interesting was that Mini date with Nick.  It stood out to me in that episode and was very telling as to the level of Andi's and Nick's relationship. What stood out to me was Andi asking Nick if he would be a lenient or strict parent. My thing is, by this time, Josh has already told her he is falling in love with her so I would think she wouldn't ask that kind of question knowing that it can be very misleading to the person she will supposedly dump. I mean, how far is too far when you are trying to mislead somebody?  I think that question crosses the line and really didn't have to be asked at that point in time.  Nick is F1 in my book and if by some chance he is not, it must be interesting for Andi and her F1 to watch this episode given all the things she has stated about her and Nick's relationship thus far.

I believe it was sleuthed in the filming schedule thread that Josh's date was actually last and the GD was before that due to the Goose parade, I could be wrong, but I think they aired out of order, possibly for that reason.

So if Nick is F2, I guess her excuse is she said all those things about Nick before Josh told her he was falling in love with her?  Interesting.....  She even stated that her and Nick have Passion... Physical, mental, and emotional connection.... I guess what she said didn't mean anything to her ?......   

  I agree: It's going to be hard for her to explain herself out of that corner, unknown82.

[GuardianAngel]

If you were to ask me, I'd say that the very definition of Love (of the marrying kind) is exactly what she said she has with Nick:  Passion and a Physical/Mental/Emotional Connection.  

There has to be the romantic spark...They have it.  She said they have a hard time keeping their hands off of one another.

There has to be a Mental connection...equally matched intellect/some interests shared/the desire to learn about things the other person is interested in/appreciation for each other's careers, etc.  A mental connection is paramount to good communication...the cornerstone of every marriage.  To me, I see (with what we have been shown) the best communication between Andi and Nick.  

Everyone knows that over time the sexual/romantic flame can wane, but if you have a shared mental and emotional connection you can fan those flames. To me, an emotional connection means that they both have open hearts, are allowing themselves to be vulnerable, are being honest for the sake of the relationship, and truly are interested in and concerned for the well-being of the other person.  It also requires maturity.  I see that between them.  I think that Andi appears more mature when she is with Nick.  I think he has the ability to enhance her and make her a more mature person.

I have my own theory as to why Josh is F1 and Nick is F2.  Since I cannot remember which thread I am in (senior moment), I will post my thoughts in the F1-F2 thread.  

[notarose]

If you were to ask me, I'd say that the very definition of Love (of the marrying kind) is exactly what she said she has with Nick:  Passion and a Physical/Mental/Emotional Connection.  

There has to be the romantic spark...They have it.  She said they have a hard time keeping their hands off of one another.

There has to be a Mental connection...equally matched intellect/some interests shared/the desire to learn about things the other person is interested in/appreciation for each other's careers, etc.  A mental connection is paramount to good communication...the cornerstone of every marriage.  To me, I see (with what we have been shown) the best communication between Andi and Nick.  

Everyone knows that over time the sexual/romantic flame can wane, but if you have a shared mental and emotional connection you can fan those flames. To me, an emotional connection means that they both have open hearts, are allowing themselves to be vulnerable, are being honest for the sake of the relationship, and truly are interested in and concerned for the well-being of the other person.  It also requires maturity.  I see that between them.  I think that Andi appears more mature when she is with Nick.  I think he has the ability to enhance her and make her a more mature person.

I have my own theory as to why Josh is F1 and Nick is F2.  Since I cannot remember which thread I am in (senior moment), I will post my thoughts in the F1-F2 thread.  

 

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    Excellent summary!

Adding to your post : one of the things that Hy was adamant on last season was related to roses & time.  He pointed out that his Pookie was not being recognized as she should have been. With Nick, Pookie/Andi has always supported the extra time or special moments he has initiated and has carved out her own initiated time for him.  It really has been reciprocated.

Nick
Epi 2 - champagne & strawberries
    3 -  flowers and note
    4 - comfort after Eric left
    5 - list of "when I see you"
    6 - nip slip RC moment   
    7 - walk & tree love fest; telling her (as he would a wife) about new troubles with they guys and by doing so while they were still there he gave her an opportunity to ask the guys about it. She chose not to so I think she's moved beyond that.

Andi
Epi 1 - FIR
    3 - 1-1 that emulates real life; taking him outside the front of the mansion to thank him
    5 -  - asking him to tell her as if she were his wife (Cody incident)
    6 - 1-1 without a date card (1st ever before HTD) and in full view of the other guys; lots of selfie pics in Venice
    7 - accepting the walk invite; mini 1-1 thus giving him the greatest amt. of time before HTD And the last date rose
(1st and last roses)

Although I am spoiled, I have decided to watch as if I'm not. This has given me more pleasure in watching a real love story unfold.

Ps: what if the spoilers are foilers?  I'm just not letting them affect what I see on screen.

[unknown82]

If you were to ask me, I'd say that the very definition of Love (of the marrying kind) is exactly what she said she has with Nick:  Passion and a Physical/Mental/Emotional Connection.  

There has to be the romantic spark...They have it.  She said they have a hard time keeping their hands off of one another.

There has to be a Mental connection...equally matched intellect/some interests shared/the desire to learn about things the other person is interested in/appreciation for each other's careers, etc.  A mental connection is paramount to good communication...the cornerstone of every marriage.  To me, I see (with what we have been shown) the best communication between Andi and Nick.  

Everyone knows that over time the sexual/romantic flame can wane, but if you have a shared mental and emotional connection you can fan those flames. To me, an emotional connection means that they both have open hearts, are allowing themselves to be vulnerable, are being honest for the sake of the relationship, and truly are interested in and concerned for the well-being of the other person.  It also requires maturity.  I see that between them.  I think that Andi appears more mature when she is with Nick.  I think he has the ability to enhance her and make her a more mature person.

I have my own theory as to why Josh is F1 and Nick is F2.  Since I cannot remember which thread I am in (senior moment), I will post my thoughts in the F1-F2 thread.  

 

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    Excellent summary!

Adding to your post : one of the things that Hy was adamant on last season was related to roses & time.  He pointed out that his Pookie was not being recognized as she should have been. With Nick, Pookie/Andi has always supported the extra time or special moments he has initiated and has carved out her own initiated time for him.  It really has been reciprocated.

Nick
Epi 2 - champagne & strawberries
    3 -  flowers and note
    4 - comfort after Eric left
    5 - list of "when I see you"
    6 - nip slip RC moment   
    7 - walk & tree love fest; telling her (as he would a wife) about new troubles with they guys and by doing so while they were still there he gave her an opportunity to ask the guys about it. She chose not to so I think she's moved beyond that.

Andi
Epi 1 - FIR
    3 - 1-1 that emulates real life; taking him outside the front of the mansion to thank him
    5 -  - asking him to tell her as if she were his wife (Cody incident)
    6 - 1-1 without a date card (1st ever before HTD) and in full view of the other guys; lots of selfie pics in Venice
    7 - accepting the walk invite; mini 1-1 thus giving him the greatest amt. of time before HTD And the last date rose
(1st and last roses)

Although I am spoiled, I have decided to watch as if I'm not. This has given me more pleasure in watching a real love story unfold.

Ps: what if the spoilers are foilers?  I'm just not letting them affect what I see on screen.

  Very good post Notarose! I see the Love story between Andi and Nick regardless of the spoilers.

[MiaHawk]

If you were to ask me, I'd say that the very definition of Love (of the marrying kind) is exactly what she said she has with Nick:  Passion and a Physical/Mental/Emotional Connection.  

There has to be the romantic spark...They have it.  She said they have a hard time keeping their hands off of one another.

There has to be a Mental connection...equally matched intellect/some interests shared/the desire to learn about things the other person is interested in/appreciation for each other's careers, etc.  A mental connection is paramount to good communication...the cornerstone of every marriage.  To me, I see (with what we have been shown) the best communication between Andi and Nick.  

Everyone knows that over time the sexual/romantic flame can wane, but if you have a shared mental and emotional connection you can fan those flames. To me, an emotional connection means that they both have open hearts, are allowing themselves to be vulnerable, are being honest for the sake of the relationship, and truly are interested in and concerned for the well-being of the other person.  It also requires maturity.  I see that between them.  I think that Andi appears more mature when she is with Nick.  I think he has the ability to enhance her and make her a more mature person.

I have my own theory as to why Josh is F1 and Nick is F2.  Since I cannot remember which thread I am in (senior moment), I will post my thoughts in the F1-F2 thread.  

 

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    Excellent summary!

Adding to your post : one of the things that Hy was adamant on last season was related to roses & time.  He pointed out that his Pookie was not being recognized as she should have been. With Nick, Pookie/Andi has always supported the extra time or special moments he has initiated and has carved out her own initiated time for him.  It really has been reciprocated.

Nick
Epi 2 - champagne & strawberries
    3 -  flowers and note
    4 - comfort after Eric left
    5 - list of "when I see you"
    6 - nip slip RC moment   
    7 - walk & tree love fest; telling her (as he would a wife) about new troubles with they guys and by doing so while they were still there he gave her an opportunity to ask the guys about it. She chose not to so I think she's moved beyond that.

Andi
Epi 1 - FIR
    3 - 1-1 that emulates real life; taking him outside the front of the mansion to thank him
    5 -  - asking him to tell her as if she were his wife (Cody incident)
    6 - 1-1 without a date card (1st ever before HTD) and in full view of the other guys; lots of selfie pics in Venice
    7 - accepting the walk invite; mini 1-1 thus giving him the greatest amt. of time before HTD And the last date rose
(1st and last roses)

Although I am spoiled, I have decided to watch as if I'm not. This has given me more pleasure in watching a real love story unfold.

Ps: what if the spoilers are foilers?  I'm just not letting them affect what I see on screen.

Totally see all of the things you have listed. Unfortunately, I'm not wearing my tinfoil hat this season. I do believe the spoilers. I believe Hy was the main reason she chose "He who shall not be named" instead of Nick. I'll post more in the F1-F2 thread about that.

[SueSt]

^^^ all the above is wonderful, mia and notarose

[beader]

I totally agree, Mia. Such a daddy's girl simply must marry someone her daddy is crazy about. Daddy will love her with an "athletic (a "famous" one who also comes with a "really famous" brother), good-looking, society-bound ("everyone" in Georgia already loves the Murphy's), do whatever MeAndI wants guy.

Would Hy ever stop to consider that she loves cutie-pie, super intelligent, wise-cracking, curly-haired, just slightly arrogant, Tricky Nicky who I believe could really keep Miss MeAndI on her toes? Probably not...

But, oh the lucky lady who does win Nick's heart!

[sdmom]

I don't have anything to add to Mia and NR's beautiful posts, but something extremely random:
am I the only one who want to reach into my TV screen to comb Nick's hair?

[SueSt]

I totally agree, Mia.  Such a daddy's girl simply must marry someone her daddy is crazy about.  Daddy will love her with an "athletic (a "famous" one who also comes with a "really famous" brother), good-looking, society-bound ("everyone" in Georgia already loves the Murphy's), do whatever MeAndI wants guy.  

Would Hy ever stop to consider that she loves cutie-pie, super intelligent, wise-cracking, curly-haired, just slightly arrogant, Tricky Nicky who I believe could really keep Miss MeAndI on her toes?  Probably not...

But, oh the lucky lady who does win Nick's heart!

Great post beader!   

[notarose]

I don't have anything to add to Mia and NR's beautiful posts, but something extremely random:
am I the only one who want to reach into my TV screen to comb Nick's hair?

I want to muss it.  We can take turns.

I totally agree, Mia.  Such a daddy's girl simply must marry someone her daddy is crazy about.  Daddy will love her with an "athletic (a "famous" one who also comes with a "really famous" brother), good-looking, society-bound ("everyone" in Georgia already loves the Murphy's), do whatever MeAndI wants guy.  

Would Hy ever stop to consider that she loves cutie-pie, super intelligent, wise-cracking, curly-haired, just slightly arrogant, Tricky Nicky who I believe could really keep Miss MeAndI on her toes?  Probably not...

But, oh the lucky lady who does win Nick's heart!

Great post beader!    

It would seem so except this may muddy the water

Night 1 deleted scene:
Hy & Andi - go to http://abc.go.com/shows/the-bachelorette

Then to menu bar for deleted scenes -scroll down to bottom of page to watch "Dad's feelings about the bachelors"

[sbolduc]

Can some give a brief synopsis of the deleted scene, can't watch as I am out of country MERCI!

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