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Post by Rolly Tue Jun 03, 2014 1:44 pm

Kashathediva wrote:The people who put the final segment with CH and Andi regarding Eric must be morons. 
If it was meant to tie things up ---it failed. If it was meant to make things look better--it failed. Whatever their motivation, it failed, unless they wanted Andi to feel a backlash.
All CH and Meandi had to do was make a few brief, well thought out and heartfelt comments--even if to remind the audience this is reality tv and a bubble and things in the moment are not always how things play out later and then move on to a lovely dedicated segment. 
They could have dedicated a good 5-7 minutes to outtakes and bloopers of Eric with cast and crew(and especially him with Meandi!) showing the lighter side of reality tv, the love and laughter that is not usually shown until we see the MTN. After this TPTB could have ended with a photo of Eric with the dates of his birth/death and faded out. 
At least that type of exit would have left the audience with some closure saying--yeah Meandi had a hissy, but this is reality tv, and not the entire way things went down.


ITA...and all the talk about Eric being a part of their family I feel was salt in the wounds to his real family. They were not trying to honor Eric but trying to make themselves look better.
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Post by Norcalgal Tue Jun 03, 2014 1:46 pm

Agree with all posters on the chat at the end between Chris and Andi being too long. Andi didn't redeem herself IMO. I think she likes being in control and a good fit for Eric would have been someone who could have lived with more abandon. He was so handsome, so genuine. So sad he is gone.


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Post by Elphaba Tue Jun 03, 2014 3:05 pm

If Eric hadn't passed away no one would have an issue with what happened last night. It wasn't unusual and definitely wasn't even close to the worst thing that's ever happened on the Bachelorette. I honestly don't think it made either one of them look bad and it is being blown out of proportion on here. People have differences in opinions. Such is life.

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Post by chinita Tue Jun 03, 2014 3:18 pm

Isabel123 wrote:
Cecilia wrote: Directly admitting that she was out of line a bit would have been better. IMO the lawyer part in her - never really wanting to admit you are wrong - is not helping her as Bachelorette.  And she does have a "poker face."  Sorry.  She does.  But I do feel bad for her because she can't feel good about any of this and it could overshadow the entire season and experience.  I did like what she had to say about how the little things she was concerned with during the filming seem now insignificant, but I didn't get as much regret from her as I think I would have felt.  Who knows.  Maybe they edited a lot out.


Ditto with the bolded. It would have soften the impact of her last parting with Eric. I don't get why she have to talk about the Men Tell All when it's no longer possible for Eric to be around.  She has her chance last night to redeem herself but she blew it.

Very much agree with the bolded. It's her personality. She'll never change. She likes to be in controlled and never want to lose to anyone. You could have seen it the kind of person she is at JPG's season. Her crying on the show looks fake to me. I don't hate her but she really gave me a bad taste in JPG's season so I didn't expect to see a soften side of her.

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Post by Mustang19 Tue Jun 03, 2014 3:22 pm

Elphaba wrote:If Eric hadn't passed away no one would have an issue with what happened last night. It wasn't unusual and definitely wasn't even close to the worst thing that's ever happened on the Bachelorette. I honestly don't think it made either one of them look bad and it is being blown out of proportion on here. People have differences in opinions. Such is life.

While it may be true that people wouldn't have had as much issue with it if Eric hadn't passed, the point is he did. No, what Andi said was not the worst thing ever, but this gave them a golden opportunity to pay respect and tribute to someone who, by all accounts, was very well liked and respected. Instead, they chose to not show a rose ceremony (out of respect = Joke) and then spend 10 minutes talking about how it's too bad he won't be at the MTA, and how it made THEM feel. When someone dies like Eric, I believe they deserve some respect and dignity, and they paid him none of that when given the chance. Instead, they go to promos for the next episode.
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Post by pbmax Tue Jun 03, 2014 3:24 pm

Elphaba wrote:If Eric hadn't passed away no one would have an issue with what happened last night. It wasn't unusual and definitely wasn't even close to the worst thing that's ever happened on the Bachelorette. I honestly don't think it made either one of them look bad and it is being blown out of proportion on here. People have differences in opinions. Such is life.

Yes they would cause it always happen whether someone dies or not. It happen when she exited JuanP season and no one died, which is when she got many of her those who are not fans because of how she handle it. That's really her problem she doesn't go about the right way. Eric was calm in the way he spoke to her so why couldn't she remain calm and said I'm sorry you see me that way but that's not true and so on. I seen the other leads handle things better when they are called out on something. No she has to always set someone straight and have the last word. she doesn't always have to end a disagreement her way.
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Post by Bet2Win Tue Jun 03, 2014 3:26 pm

I thought it interesting the CH said in his blog that Andi was already triggered because the guys were having bro'mances and not paying enough attention to her.

I agree, Kasha, the CH/Andi segment was an epic fail. Comical that CH said the segment was done to honor Eric.
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Post by chinita Tue Jun 03, 2014 3:30 pm

Mustang19 wrote:
Elphaba wrote:If Eric hadn't passed away no one would have an issue with what happened last night. It wasn't unusual and definitely wasn't even close to the worst thing that's ever happened on the Bachelorette. I honestly don't think it made either one of them look bad and it is being blown out of proportion on here. People have differences in opinions. Such is life.

While it may be true that people wouldn't have had as much issue with it if Eric hadn't passed, the point is he did. No, what Andi said was not the worst thing ever, but this gave them a golden opportunity to pay respect and tribute to someone who, by all accounts, was very well liked and respected. Instead, they chose to not show a rose ceremony (out of respect = Joke) and then spend 10 minutes talking about how it's too bad he won't be at the MTA, and how it made THEM feel. When someone dies like Eric, I believe they deserve some respect and dignity, and they paid him none of that when given the chance. Instead, they go to promos for the next episode.
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Post by atem Tue Jun 03, 2014 3:30 pm

pbmax wrote:
Elphaba wrote:If Eric hadn't passed away no one would have an issue with what happened last night. It wasn't unusual and definitely wasn't even close to the worst thing that's ever happened on the Bachelorette. I honestly don't think it made either one of them look bad and it is being blown out of proportion on here. People have differences in opinions. Such is life.

Yes they would cause it always happen whether someone dies or not. It happen when she exited JuanP season and no one died, which is when she got many of her those who are not fans because of how she handle it. That's really her problem she doesn't go about the right way. Eric was calm in the way he spoke to her so why couldn't she remain calm and said I'm sorry you see me that way but that's not true and so on. I seen the other leads handle things better when they are called out on something. No she has to always set someone straight and have the last word. she doesn't always have to end a disagreement her way.

Dittos. I never liked Juan Pablo and still didn't get why she was picked for the next Bachelorette. I didn't watch his season, but I looked at her twitter and saw the clip of her exit from Juan Pablo's season and I saw nothing but a stuck up woman with a serious attitude problem. Maybe, she found the guy for her, but I can't stand the woman.


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Post by chloep Tue Jun 03, 2014 3:33 pm

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Bet2Win wrote:I thought it interesting the CH said in his blog that Andi was already triggered because the guys were having bro'mances and not paying enough attention to her.

I agree, Kasha, the CH/Andi segment was an epic fail.  Comical that CH said the segment was done to honor Eric.  

MeAndi.... peace 



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Post by Elphaba Tue Jun 03, 2014 3:37 pm

I feel Eric was very well respected in real life. No one needs to prove anything on this show. I thought it was handled nicely and really don't get what all this drama is about. He did more in his life than most people could ever do and appearing on the Bachelorette was likely just another one of those things he checked of a list. I am sure he did not really have any issue with her after he left, and went about doing his usual worldly adventures. If I were to guess, he does not seem to be the kind that would want people to take pity on him and sit sulking about this in his honor. I doubt that very much.

(edit** this was in response to Mustangs post, but I am new here and am not sure how to post, so this is actually my second attempt to respond to that persons posts)

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Post by emeraldluvsbama Tue Jun 03, 2014 3:40 pm

clapping!  clapping!  clapping!  clapping!  clapping! 
Elphaba wrote:I feel Eric was very well respected in real life. No one needs to prove anything on this show. I thought it was handled nicely and really don't get what all this drama is about. He did more in his life than most people could ever do and appearing on the Bachelorette was likely just another one of those things he checked of a list. I am sure he did not really have any issue with her after he left, and went about doing his usual worldly adventures. If I were to guess, he does not seem to be the kind that would want people to take pity on him and sit sulking about this in his honor. I doubt that very much.

(edit** this was in response to Mustangs post, but I am new here and am not sure how to post, so this is actually my second attempt to respond to that persons posts)

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