Bachelorette 10 - Andi Dorfman - Episode 3 - Sun - Jun 1/14 *Spoilers & Sleuthing* - Discussion

Thank you, Ash! I tend to agree with your findings this season and enjoy how you so succinctly lay them out.  

Ash2214 wrote:I agree it's hard to not make the comparisons, but many of those things are different too.
The woman who left the comment on Lauren Murray's Facebook status about can't wait to meet the new family members and new pictures - she was not a stranger. She's Lauren Murray's actual friend that she hangs out with. Out of so many comments, Lauren only acknowledged that one and out of 40 comments on another status, she only acknowledged the one that Andi's mother was sweet. Now why would Lauren do that do you think? IMO, a friend of Lauren's would know Josh is on the Bette and because the family can't divulge anything, that's why it was done.

We never got confirmation that Andi was with Rachel. In my post I gave a clear description of that. If Rachel was with Andi, don't you think she would post a picture with her and Andi and not with her husband? And like I said - It all happened within minutes of Josh deleting a picture on Twitter that I think gave away his location. Rachel could have done that as a cover up for Andi and Josh. Not to mention, Josh was definitely out of town that weekend as he was spotted at the airport. We got Twitter confirmation a couple of days ago that he JUST got back to Atlanta - around the same time as Andi. Still, it was said that she's in LA with her sister. Don't know how it can be assumed to be one way and not the other. Josh could of just gone on a trip of his own. That was found out to be the case with Brooks as well. Travelling times were the same but one had nothing to do with the other for sure.

The fact that Aaron Murray just started following Hy Dorfman AFTER the FRC tells me a lot. Do you think Josh's little brother is going to follow Andi's father on Twitter if Andi dumped Josh at the "altar" and left him heart broken? I think what your saying could be summed up as a big assumption. Aaron knows his brother was on the show, again family can't make things obvious. Didn't Brooks family follow Des too???? Again, to me it's a bunch of assumptions without knowing exactly what's going on.

Chad Gloer, Josh's close friend has some very descriptive tweets about Josh and Andi. What of them are relevant? Could he not of met Andi when Josh had his HTD? Again, to me, it is assumptions that it matters.

There are things that I've seen that are adding up that cannot just be meaningless or coincidental, but that's just my opinion. It certainly makes more sense that Andi possibly wearing her hair in a certain style just because that's how she wore it on her date with Chris. I'm just trying to bring a neutral perspective to all of this and do some digging and everyone is entitled to their opinions about it.

I have put my thoughts in colored text. I think there are a lot more reasons why Chris may be in the race for F1 than just because of her hairstyle, and I am taking all of the editing stuff, dates, etc into account. Because Chris isn't on social media at all, hard to put him with Andi at any time.

The main reason I could never see Chris being F1 is because of the rural Iowa location.
I lived in the rural Missouri for 12 years as an adult, a jewish adult raising a reformed, jewish family. It was rough. You don't fit in with those actively religious and you don't fit in with those not acquainted with the faith. You are a sore thumb and up against a lot of deep seated, ingrained prejudices in small, rural areas.
I don't mean to offend, but this was my experience and it is not uncommon.
Andi may only be half jewish and not embrace the religion at all, but there is still going to be such a huge hop, skip and jump culturally from being in a bigger metropolitan area--having lived that life, I can not see it.
She may really like Chris, but being willing to embrace his lifestyle and where he lives is another ball of wax.

Thanks Ash, some may claim that the Murray clan SM are foilers, but what about Andi's sister tweet is that a foiler also? Did she post a picture with Andi on that day?

Didn't Desiree's mom follow Brooks until te night of FRC? The social media stuff is tricky to me. On one hand, there seems to be a lot of people involved to be a foiler, but then again, depending on how many people have knowledge of the ending, is it?

Kashathediva wrote:Thank you, Ash! I tend to agree with your findings this season and enjoy how you so succinctly lay them out.  

DItto! Great job at laying things out in an objective, unbiased way Ash. Love your posts.

luvlady345 wrote:Thanks Ash, some may claim that the Murray clan SM are foilers, but what about Andi's sister tweet is that a foiler also?  Did she post a picture with Andi on that day?

No, She instead posted a picture with her husband and herself.

Thanks kasha and relaxing!!      

Out of the F4, I just literally cannot see Andi picking Chris. I'd be more inclined to think that if she's not with Josh then she's with Nick or Marcus. I genuinely think Chris seems like a really sweet guy. He has a lot going for him and I bet many women love him. He'd be a great bachelor. I just can't get over the fact that he's from Iowa and this is not a knock to this wonderful state or the people that live there. It's kind of a knock to Andi. I actually like her for the most part, but I cannot picture that woman moving to Iowa. I just can't. I doubt Chris would move to Atlanta, although I obviously don't know that for sure, but that means Andi would need to move and I don't see her living her family, friends and the city life behind.

At least with Nick and Marcus, they both live in cities that you could probably compare to Atlanta. Again, just my opinion, but I didn't see any sort of spark between Andi and Chris. I thought their date was cute because he's so sweet and is clearly already super into her, but I saw nothing. I've already seen her go crazy over Marcus and Josh and I have a feeling I'm going to see her pretty into Nick tonight too.

I'm sure Andi was attracted to Chris and really enjoyed how sweet he is, but out of the F4, I really feel confident in thinking that Chris isn't her F1 and sadly that's pretty based on his location. I really do think this came down to Nick and Josh. I'm not 100% sold on Josh being her F1 and that's why I've been digging and finding some stuff. Honestly, if Andi wasn't from Atlanta then I would be extremely doubtful of the spoiler, but considering Josh and Andi's background and living in the same city, I really do think she just made the "smart" or maybe even the "safe" choice, but I guess we'll eventually see. I'm hoping something big comes about before the season ends. I'll keep looking!

Smart and safe choices have led many down the aisle.   
And some have been happy!   

For me, regardless of whether Nick's video is legit or contrived, best that I can tell (as I think it was substantiated by Mr. Write)it does give us proof that Nick was flying the Sunday following the FRC. I am curious about a possible rationale that would explain how he could be F1 and be flying home less than 48 hours (since it appears that he left the DR Sunday morning) instead of luxuriating somewhere with Andi in a safe house.

docnash14 wrote:For me, regardless of whether Nick's video is legit or contrived, best that I can tell (as I think it was substantiated by Mr. Write)it does give us proof that Nick was flying the Sunday following the FRC.  I am curious about a possible rationale that would explain how he could be F1 and be flying home less than 48 hours (since it appears that he left the DR Sunday morning) instead of luxuriating somewhere with Andi in a safe house.

This is what I thought. That's more proof that it's actually real IMO.

Yes, I agree kasha. Whether we like Andi or Josh, I do think it's safe to say that as a couple, if they are together, they do make sense.

docnash - thanks for bringing that up. I didn't even think of that. It does seem to fit and place him in the F2 regardless if it's real or not.