Episode 9 - 7/25 Fantasy dates - Discussion - Spoilers

richlp wrote:

Love_Me wrote:The lead can't say the phrase "I love you" until the FRC right?

I thought there were "no rules".... yeah right...

cupcakes wrote:

Love_Me wrote:The lead can't say the phrase "I love you" until the FRC right?

Yes...but maybe we will get another "my heart is exploding out of my chest" moment beforehand.

Bloomers wrote:This thought also occurred to me....We know how wonderful Dino's Greek family Hometown came across. We also know from a pre-season tweet that a family member indicated that Ryan had sent home a notice letting them know he had one more episode to go and he would have a hometown visit.
Now, we saw the lack of interest on Dino's part toward Ashley. I am wondering if theyencouraged Dino along to get the HOMETOWN visit from him, and then they would let him go at the Fantasy Date BEFORE the overnights just like they finally let Frank go.

How would this work for all of them? Dino and family would get the exposure for the family business. The show would get a very long, warm, fun hometown. Ashley would get a hometown with Dino instead of Ryan. The show would get a storyline - Dino cuts out at the Fantasy Date, and Ryan comes back; whereas before, Dino leaves before the Hometown, and Ryan gets the HT and maybe gets cut, or goes to the Fantasy Date and gets cut at F3 with no drama.

sjcaligurl wrote:

richlp wrote:

Love_Me wrote:The lead can't say the phrase "I love you" until the FRC right?

I thought there were "no rules".... yeah right...

But you can say "I feel so strongly for you ... " and "give myself to you 100%" ... She all but told him she wanted to see him there in the end ...

mnmhughes wrote:

sjcaligurl wrote:

richlp wrote:

Love_Me wrote:The lead can't say the phrase "I love you" until the FRC right?

I thought there were "no rules".... yeah right...

But you can say "I feel so strongly for you ... " and "give myself to you 100%" ... She all but told him she wanted to see him there in the end ...

What did Brad tell Emily? I thought for sure he at least said, "I'm falling in love with you." It caused a big uproar at that time.

Has Brad forgotten that he’s on ‘The Bachelor?’ He shouldn’t be telling Emily that he’s in love with her until the final rose ceremony!

So much for previews leading us to believe that Emily Maynard doesn’t accept Brad Womack‘s fantasy suite key. On the Feb. 28 episode, Emily does in fact spend the night with Brad. And, it’s there that Brad breaks all the rules — confessing to Emily that he’s falling in love with her!

During this episode, Brad has three overnight dates with the girls in South Africa.

Chantal O’Brien gets the first date. Brad takes her on an incredible safari wilderness and they stop to have lunch by a hippo pond. In the evening, they share a romantic dinner that gets cut short when Chantal accepts the fantasy suite key. Brad leads her to a tree house in the middle of no where. They spend the night together and the cameras cut as they fall back onto pillows making out.

“It’s like an adventure, love story, fairytale all mixed into one,” Chantal gushes. “I am so caught up in this moment and never thought I would be here with Brad. I am hoping I will be flying home with Brad, knowing that he loves me and wants to be with me.”

Emily gets the second date in Sabi Sands, South Africa. “I’ve been looking forward to seeing Emily all week — every time I see her, I light up,” Brad tells the cameras. Brad then runs off, saying that he forgot something, but comes back riding an elephant. Emily gets on behind Brad and the tour guide. Talk about the ride of a life! “This is like the Lion King, but better,” Emily smiles.

Brad then surprises Emily even more when he tells her a secret.

“I miss your daughter,” Brad confesses to her. “Does she understand what it means if we start spending time together? I’ve thought about her a lot. I would make every effort. You are a package deal, and I love that about you.”

“I’ve never crossed this bridge before,” Emily answers. “But, I’ve been ready.”

After such a perfect day, can the evening go just as well? “I don’t want you to question anything,” Emily starts off. “I am so excited about the idea of you and I and Ricky. If I am the person you can see yourself with, I just want to do it.”

Emily wants to tell Brad that she loves him over dinner, but gets too nervous. ”I have only said, ‘I love you,’ to one person in my whole life,” Emily says. “I did not have the guts to tell Brad, ‘I love you,’ at dinner. Falling in love scares me to death.”

But once they are alone, Emily opens up. “I want you to know that I’m absolutely, completely falling in love with you,” she says.

“I didn’t expect that,” Brad responds. “I’m falling in love with you too. I’m not going to sit here and listen to that and not say anything back. It makes me the happiest guy in the world to hear you say the same thing.” Wow! Did that really happen? Brad actually said, “I love you!”

Ashley Hebert gets the third date. Sadly Brad and Ashley have never discussed their combined futures. Brad tries to explain his concerns, but both him and Ashley seem hurt and lost. “I don’t want to throw you off,” Brad says to her. “I’m definitely looking for the future.”

“Ashley was the one I cared about the most at the beginning,” Brad explains. “But now I need more than that.”

Brad doesn’t see a future with Ashley anymore. He sends her home, leaving him with the final two contestants.

chicagoowl wrote:

Bloomers wrote:This thought also occurred to me....We know how wonderful Dino's Greek family Hometown came across. We also know from a pre-season tweet that a family member indicated that Ryan had sent home a notice letting them know he had one more episode to go and he would have a hometown visit.
Now, we saw the lack of interest on Dino's part toward Ashley. I am wondering if theyencouraged Dino along to get the HOMETOWN visit from him, and then they would let him go at the Fantasy Date BEFORE the overnights just like they finally let Frank go.

How would this work for all of them? Dino and family would get the exposure for the family business. The show would get a very long, warm, fun hometown. Ashley would get a hometown with Dino instead of Ryan. The show would get a storyline - Dino cuts out at the Fantasy Date, and Ryan comes back; whereas before, Dino leaves before the Hometown, and Ryan gets the HT and maybe gets cut, or goes to the Fantasy Date and gets cut at F3 with no drama.

I don't think Constantine eliminates himself. In one of the episode descriptions it says that Ashley has her dates and then has an emotional deliberation at the RC. I think he just turns down the fantasy suite card... and Ashley is upset by that because how can she get to know him if he doesn't spend the night? I think the religion thing comes into play because he is Greek Orthodox... someone who is traditional Greek ORthodox does not believe in sex before marriage. Even if they wouldn't "do it" in the Fantasy Suite... just accepting the date card would bring his family shame. So I think he turns down the offer and still goes to RC where AShley eliminates him ... hence she makes the decision herself, so she's not upset. Trust me.. I'm Greek Orthodox. :D

sjcaligurl wrote:

chicagoowl wrote:

Bloomers wrote:This thought also occurred to me....We know how wonderful Dino's Greek family Hometown came across. We also know from a pre-season tweet that a family member indicated that Ryan had sent home a notice letting them know he had one more episode to go and he would have a hometown visit.
Now, we saw the lack of interest on Dino's part toward Ashley. I am wondering if theyencouraged Dino along to get the HOMETOWN visit from him, and then they would let him go at the Fantasy Date BEFORE the overnights just like they finally let Frank go.

How would this work for all of them? Dino and family would get the exposure for the family business. The show would get a very long, warm, fun hometown. Ashley would get a hometown with Dino instead of Ryan. The show would get a storyline - Dino cuts out at the Fantasy Date, and Ryan comes back; whereas before, Dino leaves before the Hometown, and Ryan gets the HT and maybe gets cut, or goes to the Fantasy Date and gets cut at F3 with no drama.

I don't think Constantine eliminates himself. In one of the episode descriptions it says that Ashley has her dates and then has an emotional deliberation at the RC. I think he just turns down the fantasy suite card... and Ashley is upset by that because how can she get to know him if he doesn't spend the night? I think the religion thing comes into play because he is Greek Orthodox... someone who is traditional Greek ORthodox does not believe in sex before marriage. Even if they wouldn't "do it" in the Fantasy Suite... just accepting the date card would bring his family shame. So I think he turns down the offer and still goes to RC where AShley eliminates him ... hence she makes the decision herself, so she's not upset. Trust me.. I'm Greek Orthodox. :D

The spoiler says he leaves before the overnight. He doesn't go to the RC. Maybe she'll tell him what she told Mickey.

The episode will cover a unique date with the newest
Bachelorette, the energetic and vivacious Ashley Hebert, who is ready to
start a new life with a soulmate she might soon confirm. Ashley gets a
second chance at love, on the seventh edition of “The Bachelorette.”
The date will include a Seaplane charter to Namena Island near the Marine
Park where the couple will enjoy a beach picnic for the day, followed by a
romantic dinner arranged by the resort amid a 90-acre virgin Fijian
rainforest at dusk. The Bachelorette and her date will greet each other
under the canopy of rainforest trees, in a candle lit setting for two. The
couple will dine Fijian style on the woven tapestry, seated closely together
and savor a succulent menu of beef fillet and walu fish.
If the Bachelorette’s date accepts the invitation to spend the night in the
Fantasy suite, they will enjoy a stay in the Kavika Falls Villa, a 3,500
square foot luxury villa perched along the hillside of a lush virgin
rainforest, with chilled champagne and expansive views looking out to the
Koro Sea, providing the ultimate in privacy. The villa comes complete
with two bedrooms in the main house, two master bedroom suites, one on
each side of great room, with interconnecting walkway verandas. This
stunning private Fijian style Villa highlights fine linens, tropical
furnishings, and a cascading waterfall through the entire villa with infinity
edge swimming pool.

richlp wrote:

mnmhughes wrote:

sjcaligurl wrote:

richlp wrote:

Love_Me wrote:The lead can't say the phrase "I love you" until the FRC right?

I thought there were "no rules".... yeah right...

But you can say "I feel so strongly for you ... " and "give myself to you 100%" ... She all but told him she wanted to see him there in the end ...

What did Brad tell Emily? I thought for sure he at least said, "I'm falling in love with you." It caused a big uproar at that time.

That can't be it... he would have added "I really am" at the end...

cupcakes wrote:JP's date description:

The date will include a Seaplane charter to Namena Island near the Marine
Park where the couple will enjoy a beach picnic for the day,
followed by a romantic dinner amid a 90-acre virgin Fijian rainforest at dusk.

They will enjoy a stay in the Kavika Falls Villa, a luxury villa perched along the hillside of a lush virgin
rainforest, looking out to the Koro Sea