The Bachelorette 10 - *Final 1-F2* - Speculation * Sleuthing - Spoilers*

I cannot entertain any Nick is f1 spoiler personally, but there may be some issues with Marcus that will prevent Josh a smooth sail into f1. There is zero chemistry with Nick but she's all hot and bothered for Marcus so he's the stiffest competition.

Steel2009 wrote:

emad0722 wrote:

composer53 wrote:Interesting, I find Josh adorable. Nick and Chris not so much. Marcus, interesting but not hot.  Will be interesting to see if my opinion of them changes through the course of the show.  There seemed to be a lot of caps of Nick and Andi kissing and I saw no chemistry between them.  Just MO.

To me this kiss looks very Arie2.0

Yes! From what we've seen so far and the previews, there are 2 guys she really seems to enjoy kissing.  You can clearly see the chemistry between her and Josh and Nick.  With Chris she seemed to be pulling away.

Actually with Chris, she was leaning in a few times

Alanna wrote:I cannot entertain any Nick is f1 spoiler personally, but there may be some issues with Marcus that will prevent Josh a smooth sail into f1. There is zero chemistry with Nick but she's all hot and bothered for Marcus so he's the stiffest competition.

I can agree with you on that but if Marcus leaves at F4 what will they throw at us to doubt Josh being F1?

Steel2009 wrote:

nannymargie wrote:

atem wrote:I'm predicting a lot of people will be changing their tunes episode 5, in regards to keeping their minds open.

Atem,  I am waiting for Josh and Andi's 1/1.  I think that will tell us a lot.  I want to see how they act together on a full date not just those little times at rose ceremonies.

Me too!  I haven't really seen him trying to get to know her better and asking her questions about herself.  I can't wait!  I think there will be a lot of kissing since they already got the first kiss out of the way.
Im just happy episode 5 will be a week earlier then expected

I don't believe the highlighted is true. We get Ep. 3 & 4 on Sunday and Monday and then the following Monday by all accounts is a repeat of Ep. 4 because of some interview with Hilary Clinton. Therefore, Ep. 5 will be where it would have been had we not had the two episodes back to back.

nannymargie wrote:

Alanna wrote:I cannot entertain any Nick is f1 spoiler personally, but there may be some issues with Marcus that will prevent Josh a smooth sail into f1. There is zero chemistry with Nick but she's all hot and bothered for Marcus so he's the stiffest competition.

I can agree with you on that but if Marcus leaves at F4 what will they throw at us to doubt Josh being F1?

Not for me. Perhaps the editors will be able to swing it with all those kisses with Nick.

But after F4 it will be really hard convincing some that there is a viable option. Which make me wonder if that is part of the reason for the lack of SC after HTDs.

whateva wrote:

Steel2009 wrote:

emad0722 wrote:

composer53 wrote:Interesting, I find Josh adorable. Nick and Chris not so much. Marcus, interesting but not hot.  Will be interesting to see if my opinion of them changes through the course of the show.  There seemed to be a lot of caps of Nick and Andi kissing and I saw no chemistry between them.  Just MO.

To me this kiss looks very Arie2.0

Yes! From what we've seen so far and the previews, there are 2 guys she really seems to enjoy kissing.  You can clearly see the chemistry between her and Josh and Nick.  With Chris she seemed to be pulling away.

Actually with Chris, she was leaning in a few times

Whateva that is what I saw also. I didn't see her pulling away in fact I saw her initiating a kiss.

Unless you keep an open mind, watching the epi's while paying attention to the edit, and the experience one has while watching, you'll never see a love story. I don't see why they would start now.

Unless MF has had a change of heart since he married the former Miss America (that he was a guest judge when she was crowned)

MF has always, from the first season, tried to trick us with the edit regarding the F1.

In the earlier years, the formula was usually the hot chemistry for the F2, leading everyone to think the F2 would be F1. Then Jake's season came along, and no trickery was needed as it was pretty much a given that no one would believe that Vienna was F1.    One of my favorite seasons for snark.

At the ATFR for Brad 2.0, Emily said after watching the show she would have picked Chantal.   

MF has always wanted the shock/surprise/keep them guessing ending. Why would he change now is the question. Or has he?

GuardianAngel wrote:Unless you keep an open mind, watching the epi's while paying attention to the edit, and the experience one has while watching, you'll never see a love story. I don't see why they would start now.

Unless MF has had a change of heart since he married the former Miss America (that he was a guest judge when she was crowned)

TA.

Its very easy to call it after the fact or even downgrade the relationship because "we" didn't see the connection right off the bat.

I am not prepared to plant the flag on the spoilers. Perhaps they are right like last season when Clare clearly had the chemistry edit while he was busy wooing Nikki and doing sweet things for her.

As MVMom on the non-spoiler section said "Watch who the lead is chasing not who is chasing the lead". That person may not be F1 but is the leads choice regardless of how it pans out.

Bet2Win wrote:MF has always, from the first season, tried to trick us with the edit regarding the F1.  

In the earlier years, the formula was usually the hot chemistry for the F2, leading everyone to think the F2 would be F1.  Then Jake's season came along, and no trickery was needed as it was pretty much a given that no one would believe that Vienna was F1.      One of my favorite seasons for snark.

At the ATFR for Brad 2.0, Emily said after watching the show she would have picked Chantal.    

MF has always wanted the shock/surprise/keep them guessing ending.  Why would he change now is the question.  Or has he?

Exactly. Can you imagine Emily's reaction post filming, before the Finale aired, Brad calling Chantal "hot" during his media rounds? She almost lost her mind while the show was airing.

As far as the bolded, I think that's his strategy this season!

GuardianAngel wrote:Unless you keep an open mind, watching the epi's while paying attention to the edit, and the experience one has while watching, you'll never see a love story. I don't see why they would start now.

Unless MF has had a change of heart since he married the former Miss America (that he was a guest judge when she was crowned)

i am not very good at figuring out the edit or the music some of you can catch on to. So I will have to depend on you'll to keep me straight on the edit and music. So I am thanking you'll in advance for it.

Notice the (you'll) it's southern thing.

nannymargie wrote:
i am not very good at figuring out the edit or the music some of you can catch on to.  So I will have to depend on you'll to keep me straight on the edit and music.  So I am thanking you'll in advance for it.

Notice the (you'll)  it's southern thing.

The beauty of a forum such as this, there are many different talents. One might prefer to anylize edit and someone else is great at making s/caps, or knowing exactly what music is for what part. Personally I can't keep track of who went on what date and how many dates do they get by epi 5 and another one on one by epi 8 so on.

So we all learn from each other! Or depend on others for information that we know they have a reputation of being good at. Participating in the epi thread on epi night is the most fun. That's when a lot of the sleuthing comes together.

For example that blue s/cap. Hopefully we'll get to see it and it's not edited out. Those that are right with their guesses will be delighted, those that are wrong will be surprised! If they don't show it, we'll all be ticked!