The Bachelorette 10 - *Final 1-F2* - Speculation * Sleuthing - Spoilers*

^^ That's not what I meant.
I do think that Josh was th other guy in the F2. But this is not a proof that Josh was ACTUALLY chosen at the end AND that he not only proposed but Andi accepted. You know what I mean now? She could have had a complete meltdown after Nick left and decided to rather stay single or just attempt tentatively dating Josh....
Is it more likely that she chose Josh and that they are engaged? Sure! Do we have a proof of that though? No.
  

If something went wrong with Josh, then why is she promoting a love story this season? Ehh. I'm an Occam's razor kind of person but I understand not everyone else is.

Alanna wrote:If something went wrong with Josh, then why is she promoting a love story this season? Ehh. I'm an Occam's razor kind of person but I understand not everyone else is.

  I usually am too, but not when it comes to this silly show. You never know...   

Alanna wrote:If something went wrong with Josh, then why is she promoting a love story this season? Ehh. I'm an Occam's razor kind of person but I understand not everyone else is.

True however in one of the previews she says it isn't a fairytale.

chloep wrote:^^ That's not what I meant.
I do think that Josh was th other guy in the F2. But this is not a proof that Josh was ACTUALLY chosen at the end AND that he not only proposed but Andi accepted. You know what I mean now? She could have had a complete meltdown after Nick left and decided to rather stay single or just attempt tentatively dating Josh....
Is it more likely that she chose Josh and that they are engaged? Sure! Do we have a proof of that though? No.
  

Yes to the bolded. It proves neither of those things.

provenceguy wrote:RS'S MAJOR spoiler is up!
Someone videotaped Nick talking on his phone about the whole experience, while flyhing home from what appears to be the FRC. Amazing!

Videotaped? Finally!   

Did he post it? Could someone transcribe it?

atem wrote:

provenceguy wrote:RS'S MAJOR spoiler is up!
Someone videotaped Nick talking on his phone about the whole experience, while flyhing home from what appears to be the FRC. Amazing!

Videotaped?  Finally!    

Did he post it? Could someone transcribe it?

Two videos - the first one...

“Yeah, like, Josh won’t say sh*t. Like, he’ll do whatever she wants. He’s not that…he didn’t open up, he just kinda…he just eats, sleeps, and sh*ts and like, has a bad temper, and…you know, and…I mean, he’s really competitive yeah…he’s super emotional, he’s really insecure, and…ummmm, and he uhhhhh….it uhhhhhh….(pause to stuff his face with Cheetos)…and ummm…forgot what I was gonna say…oh and he’s incredibly set in his ways…”


The 2nd one...


:23-34…“Because I sensed it throughout the whole thing…and I kept saying to her ‘I can’t wait til we’re in the real world…can’t wait til we get to do this stuff…we just go to, like, K-Mart and just chill…and don’t even have to worry about the this other stuff, you know?’”

:36-:50…“And I just kept saying it, just cuz I wanted…you know…and I said to her, I’m like ‘You don’t think I…’ and then, you know, instead of arguing with her I said, ‘You know what? I disagree.’ And I just left it at that…You know, I didn’t try to change her mind, I’m just like, ‘I disagree.’”

1:05-1:48…“But she won’t…it’s ok. I mean…for someone (inaudible)…it’s actually happened once….ummmm, it was the guy with the girl. The guy changed his mind. They’re actually (inaudible) and now they’re still married. But, ummm…she’s incredibly stubborn (looks at woman to his left who thinks he’s talking to loud. Hey, talk as loud as you want Nick. This is gold!)…ummm, she’s incredibly stubborn, and if someone is passive aggressive and bottles it up, it probably…you know what I’m sayin?”

1:52…“Oh, loved em.’ Love, love, loved her family. Great relationship with both her parents…”

2:06-2:40…“We just…we just clicked…I mean, it was so funny because throughout the season, she had…I had her meet some of my friends (he’s talking about the hometown date of course since that’d be the only time she could meet his friends) and they asked her ‘What is it’ and she said, one of the first things she said to me, she’s like, ‘This is so easy with you…’…she’s like, ‘This is so easy with you…’ And ironically, she’s basically saying, ‘It’s too hard. I can’t do this.’ You know, which, really wasn’t……27 (he must’ve just been asked her age)…she’s basically like, ‘I’m scared sh*tless.’”


2:48-3:00…“No, nope, ummmm, I mean, she went back to what she’s used to…I mean, I don’t know how else to…I mean again…actions speak louder than words, like, I don’t know what else to say other than, like, it seemed like she really changed her mind, like, at the last moment.”

Thanks, but a lot of it didn't make any sense!

Thanks to the person who taped it all! Too funny.

atem wrote:

provenceguy wrote:RS'S MAJOR spoiler is up!
Someone videotaped Nick talking on his phone about the whole experience, while flyhing home from what appears to be the FRC. Amazing!

Videotaped?  Finally!    

Did he post it? Could someone transcribe it?

OK, this is BIG--RS usually overpromises and underdelivers but this is a pretty sure thing.

He transcribes, but basically Nick says that Josh isn't a very nice guy, has a temper, eats sleeps and not much else and that he is very stuck in his ways.

Nick indicates that he met and really liked Andi's family. He felt he was the one, Andi told him it was very easy with him. He seemed to be upset but told his friend "its okay.." The friend appears to have asked if she would change her mind and he said it had happened before (Jason M) but he didn't think she would that she was very stubborn and that she chose "what she was used to."  He implied that she wasn't going to move, etc to be with someone not from her area and with similar interests.
No proof that it was Josh but since he talked about Josh you could assume that Josh was the F1.

I wonder: will he get in trouble for this?

Poor Nick!

Oh Nick    and    I'm worried for him to be honest. Who has that conversation in public like that? I guess they'll learn to keep the handlers with the rejected ones longer.

chloep wrote:^^ That's not what I meant.
I do think that Josh was th other guy in the F2. But this is not a proof that Josh was ACTUALLY chosen at the end AND that he not only proposed but Andi accepted. You know what I mean now? She could have had a complete meltdown after Nick left and decided to rather stay single or just attempt tentatively dating Josh....
Is it more likely that she chose Josh and that they are engaged? Sure! Do we have a proof of that though? No.
  

You're absolutely right!   

relaxing wrote:Oh Nick    and    I'm worried for him to be honest.  Who has that conversation in public like that?  I guess they'll learn to keep the handlers with the rejected ones longer.  

Me too relaxing. Big time. I would wonder at what stage the legal eagles would descend on his ? If they do now, then that would just be them acknowledging the fact.

I can so visualize them leading him away to some court the second the ATFR is filmed. Ouch.

Are there any legal eagles here that can shed light on this ? jlccaz ?????