Juan Pablo Galavis - Nikki Ferrell - Bachelor 18 - Discussion

Kashathediva wrote:I don't think anyone is under the illusion that it is one big happy family, as all families have issues. 
I don't think anyone thinks that, unless of course, there could be fans of all the couples and in that case unicorns may really exist for that person and they may think that. 

But there are things always better left unsaid for the sake of friendship and in order to keep a semblance of friendliness.

KP, let me as you something did you say the same thing when Chris Harrison said that he didn't like the guy, meaning JP? Or is it just because Josh said something..... Because for me CH is the figure head of the Bachelor and when he shares his dislike of JP it holds more weigh IMO than Josh.....

I think CH is the worst. I have absolutely no respect or ever have had for this man on so many levels and have never made a secret of this.
I don't dislike Josh, I just don't think he is very bright and has poor impulse control.

Yeah I don't like CH either....

I admit I am not AT ALL a JP fan because of this I totally boycotted his season. In watching Couples Therapy I have had mixed thoughts about the two. Doesn't make me like either any more or any less.

Regardless I really think the things that Andi and Josh are saying publicly about him are classless, especially considering that JP is dating (or was, not really sure) one of Andi's supposed closest friends.

Sorry real friends don't do that, you support your friend regardless if you agree with them or not, you bite your d@mn tongue, ESPECIALLY in public if you are a public figure, ESPECIALLY to a fricken magazine or news outlet.

sbolduc wrote:I admit I am not AT ALL a JP fan because of this I totally boycotted his season. In watching Couples Therapy I have had mixed thoughts about the two. Doesn't make me like either any more or any less.

Regardless I really think the things that Andi and Josh are saying publicly about him are classless, especially considering that JP is dating (or was, not really sure) one of Andi's supposed closest friends.

Sorry real friends don't do that, you support your friend regardless if you agree with them or not, you bite your d@mn tongue, ESPECIALLY in public if you are a public figure, ESPECIALLY to a fricken magazine or news outlet.

To a certain extent, I do agree. However, I think someone would have to be blind to not see on Couples Therapy that at times, Juan Pablo belittles Nikki and you can tell by many of the things he says and does hurts her. I'm not saying Nikki is a walk in the park, but I personally just dislike Juan Pablo's actions and words he uses when it comes to women. We can say Andi did her whole act to get the bachelorette, but to an extent, she raised some valid points.

With this type of situation, I don't take issue with Josh and Andi talking negatively about Juan Pablo. Since we don't know any of them, maybe perhaps Andi knows far more about Nikki and Juan Pablo's relationship than we all do and therefore that leads to their dislike of him even more. I wouldn't keep quiet if my friend was in a relationship like that. I find CH, Mills and Fleiss trashing Juan Pablo way worse than Josh saying he doesn't want someone like him at his wedding.

I will say though that previously not too long ago both Andi and Josh joked that Juan Pablo could attend their wedding if he gave Nikki a ring. I do wonder why two months later they drastically changed their tune.

relaxing wrote:

GuardianAngel wrote:Moved from Fan thread.

GuardianAngel wrote:

If JPG said that about Josh, Andi would never speak to Nikki again, IMO. We speculated she is capable of doing that with family. I'm sure it wouldn't be a problem not to ever speak to her so called "BFF".



He's doing a good job of showing his true colours. My opinion of him has reverted back to what I thought when he walked out of that limo, arrogant, know it all. Now he thinks he's protecting Andi, I'm sure she loves it, at the same time they are two peas in a pod now. Both of them are rude selfish and very much into themselves.

To me Josh and Andi both come across as if they think they live in a world where they are somehow better than other people, are entitled to more than other people and expect better treatment for themselves then they give to other people.  Both equally arrogant to me and why I'm not at all a fan.  But they do seem to be well matched and seem happy together in their little bubble of perceived superiority so best of luck to them.  

Sorry I'm a little behind all the threads since I was without my computer yesterday and only kept up on a few threads on my phone. Just had to comment reading all of this that it seems as if Nick's post elimination airplane assessment/rant is appearing more and more spot on.

For all the flack that he gets...some deserved and some not...I don't think I have heard JPab bad mouth anyone post show. Nikki has been a little more testy when confronted with negativity and I'm curious how she will handle this. I suspect her response will tell us a lot about how her relationship with JPab is really working out.

Sprite wrote:

relaxing wrote:

GuardianAngel wrote:Moved from Fan thread.

To me Josh and Andi both come across as if they think they live in a world where they are somehow better than other people, are entitled to more than other people and expect better treatment for themselves then they give to other people.  Both equally arrogant to me and why I'm not at all a fan.  But they do seem to be well matched and seem happy together in their little bubble of perceived superiority so best of luck to them.  

Sorry I'm a little behind all the threads since I was without my computer yesterday and only kept up on a few threads on my phone. Just had to comment reading all of this that it seems as if Nick's post elimination airplane assessment/rant is appearing more and more spot on.

For all the flack that he gets...some deserved and some not...I don't think I have heard JPab bad mouth anyone post show. Nikki has been a little more testy when confronted with negativity and I'm curious how she will handle this. I suspect her response will tell us a lot about how her relationship with JPab is really working out.

I was just thinking the same thing. I watched CT, and he didn't say one bad word or even a sarcastic word about Andi. I don't think I've seen any interview where he's trying to get a jab in or say anything negative about her. The whole issue to me isn't whether Josh was rude, it's the position Josh and Andi have put Nikki in with their comment about JPG not being invited to the wedding. Even if you don't like him (JPG), that really puts your supposed best friend in an awful position. Assuming JPG and Nikki are still together at the time they get married, a more tactful way of handling it would have been to let Nikki know privately (not announced in an interview) that she is welcome to attend, but that they really don't want JPG there. It lets Nikki politely decline in private.

Mustang19 wrote:

Sprite wrote:

relaxing wrote:

To me Josh and Andi both come across as if they think they live in a world where they are somehow better than other people, are entitled to more than other people and expect better treatment for themselves then they give to other people.  Both equally arrogant to me and why I'm not at all a fan.  But they do seem to be well matched and seem happy together in their little bubble of perceived superiority so best of luck to them.  

Sorry I'm a little behind all the threads since I was without my computer yesterday and only kept up on a few threads on my phone. Just had to comment reading all of this that it seems as if Nick's post elimination airplane assessment/rant is appearing more and more spot on.

For all the flack that he gets...some deserved and some not...I don't think I have heard JPab bad mouth anyone post show. Nikki has been a little more testy when confronted with negativity and I'm curious how she will handle this. I suspect her response will tell us a lot about how her relationship with JPab is really working out.

I was just thinking the same thing. I watched CT, and he didn't say one bad word or even a sarcastic word about Andi. I don't think I've seen any interview where he's trying to get a jab in or say anything negative about her. The whole issue to me isn't whether Josh was rude, it's the position Josh and Andi have put Nikki in with their comment about JPG not being invited to the wedding. Even if you don't like him (JPG), that really puts your supposed best friend in an awful position. Assuming JPG and Nikki are still together at the time they get married, a more tactful way of handling it would have been to let Nikki know privately (not announced in an interview) that she is welcome to attend, but that they really don't want JPG there. It lets Nikki politely decline in private.  

Exactly. For a guy who was supposedly so media savvy due to all the family sports experience, Josh is kind of proving the contrary. You never really know about people and their relationships...no matter how good friends you are. One minute they are crying, miserable and about to break up and the next, all is sweetness and light again. Rinse and repeat. Been there, done that. Best watch your tongue or things come back to haunt you. As for JPab, I just think his personality and attitude in life is ... eez okay. Those type of people rarely get all worked up about something unless they are pushed or cornered like within the confines of the show with Clare. I wouldn't want to be his significant other, but I think he would make an easier friend that Andi.

Anyone that has followed JPG and Nikki post show, knows, JPG has never as far as we know, ever said anything negative about anyone I am also including many Spanish interviews that he does.

The only time I think he mentioned Andi, is when he was asked before her season started if he spoke to her. He said he face-timed with her and suggested she just be true to herself, don't be a puppet and enjoy it, paraphrasing. When asked how he thought she will do on her season, he said he didn't know, and he'll ask her himself when she's done.

Of course we don't know what is said privately amongst themselves.

Josh and Andy need a little reminder that if not for JPG, she wouldnt have been the Bachelorette and wouldnt have met Josh.

Juan pablo is not my favorite and neither is Nikki, but I sure as heck like them more then I do Andy and Josh, who seem to think their $h!t doesn't stink.

Spoil Me Again wrote:Josh and Andy need a little reminder that if not for JPG, she wouldnt have been the Bachelorette and wouldnt have met Josh.

Juan pablo is not my favorite and neither is Nikki, but I sure as heck like them more then I do Andy and Josh, who seem to think their $h!t doesn't stink.

Haha. Love it!

Spoil Me Again wrote:Josh and Andy need a little reminder that if not for JPG, she wouldnt have been the Bachelorette and wouldnt have met Josh.

Juan pablo is not my favorite and neither is Nikki, but I sure as heck like them more then I do Andy and Josh, who seem to think their $h!t doesn't stink.

I actually think these two would have met in Atlanta with or without the show. They are just too similar to not have eventually found each other. If nothing else I can see a drunk at a bar saying to Josh, man didn't I just see your sister over there? Turns out it was MeAndI.

I think JPG and the show might have made it only slightly quicker on the meeting and falling in love. Without JPG they probably wouldn't be planning a wedding yet or have Andi's huge ring.