Bachelor In Paradise *Sleuthing* - *Spoilers*

mbmom wrote:I for one can't wait for this show.  Sorry to drag up old material, but what did Jef do at the reception?  I haven't heard.  Thanks!   

I'm not sure, but there was an article somewhere (Wetpaint, maybe?) that said Jef and Arie got into a shouting match at Cat and Sean's wedding. It didn't say what about, but that they were no longer friends and stopped following each other on social media.

notarose wrote:Jef interview
http://ca.eonline.com/news/524893/bachelor-in-paradise-jef-holm-in-talks-to-join-new-show-insists-it-s-different-than-bachelor-pad

I better start reading some names I want on the show.    Looks like he's spilling already. Who needs RS with Jef there?

Haha at Jef and Arie stopping to follow each other on social media, you know it's serious business now!! Beyond ridiculous. With that said, I can only hope such illustrious characters as 1F show up on this show, I can't wait!

Interesting article. I can easily see a Jef/Arie casting and pre-show setup at the Sean/Cat wedding to make it appear there was a "real" shouting match. The deleting of each other on social media just promotes the façade.

I sure hope he is not on the show. Didn't care for him on Em's season and thought they were perfectly matched and deserved each other. Looking at that picture of him in the article, he is looking rough and he wasn't that great to start with.

If this show is as raunchy as the BP was, I want people who will embrace that and be fun, not some sleazy little twit who wants to maintain this goody two shoes image when it is well know that he is a fake.

It doesn't sound like any of the women would be interested in "hooking up" with Jef even if he is on the show.  I can think of a lot better ideas than extending his 15 mins.

bleuberry wrote:This is so interesting, who woulda thought when he was on the show, that Emily would come out smelling a whole lot nicer than him. He was the well-liked (generally) and seemingly hard working guy looking for love, and now she's the one who (hopefully) found it and is actually working for a living. He probably hates getting asked about her, he's her Jesse Csinsak!

I was a huge fan of Jef and Arie. To me, I am saddened that this friendship ended. I stopped following both this year, as neither is doing anything interesting to me. I would have enjoyed their friendship on Bachelor in Paradise since to me that was one of the better parts of Emily's season.

As for Emily working for a living, I don't consider designing her jewelry or writing her blog working for a living. To me that is more self promotion. As for the love thing, I do hope that she and Tyler work out, Ricki deserves a great dad in her life.

Jesse Csincsak another opinionated guy who didn't play ball with TPTB and got a bad edit. In actuality he is a pretty nice guy.

Rosepetal wrote:Interesting article. I can easily see a Jef/Arie casting and pre-show setup at the Sean/Cat wedding to make it appear there was a "real" shouting match. The deleting of each other on social media just promotes the façade.

I get the feeling the fallout between them is the real deal. I think he finally hit a very patient Arie's last nerve. I don't know the details, but I think he also got into an argument with Ali. Sadly I think he'll be on. They'll want an agitator and that is his special talent. Unless of course TPTB remember how he blabbed everything last time. That and the recent go round with JP may give them pause regarding someone they can't "control"

pavalygurl wrote:

Rosepetal wrote:Interesting article. I can easily see a Jef/Arie casting and pre-show setup at the Sean/Cat wedding to make it appear there was a "real" shouting match. The deleting of each other on social media just promotes the façade.

I get the feeling the fallout between them is the real deal.  I think he finally hit a very patient Arie's last nerve.  I don't know the details, but I think he also got into an argument with Ali.  Sadly I think he'll be on.  They'll want an agitator and that is his special talent.  Unless of course TPTB remember how he blabbed everything last time.  That and the recent go round with JP may give them pause regarding someone they can't "control"

 I think TPTB are confident that they can control Jef . And Jef is confident that he can do whatever he wants, as usual.  The Jef vs Fleiss showdown could be interesting.

Wow, I cannot imagine Ali being furious unless it was very deserved. She is a lot like Jash in that respect, nice and friendly and kind to everyone. I wonder what he said!

Rumor has it that Jef acted out after the WTA taping... He apparently behaved like a douche, got drunk and was trying to get with practically every single girl who was at the after-party.