Bachelorette 10 - *Sleuthing - Spoilers*

nd4reality wrote:Boy the sleuthing boards are like a graveyard these days. Seems like RS' spoiler has put a damp blanket on the proceedings    . Either that or everyone is gone underground and is resorting to PMs only.
I'll go with the first option. Too bad.

Question
Was the F3 "kept on the island" until after the FRC as in Emily's season? The last I read in the forum was that info became scarce after the HTDs.

nd4reality wrote:Boy the sleuthing boards are like a graveyard these days. Seems like RS' spoiler has put a damp blanket on the proceedings    . Either that or everyone is gone underground and is resorting to PMs only.
I'll go with the first option. Too bad.

I agree, but it wasn't just the spoiling of the final 1 but the video of Nick that some "fan" gave to RS. That definitely put a damper on things regardless if you believe RS or not.

I think it has more to do with Memorial Day weekend and no real new promo footage.

nd4reality wrote:Boy the sleuthing boards are like a graveyard these days. Seems like RS' spoiler has put a damp blanket on the proceedings    . Either that or everyone is gone underground and is resorting to PMs only.
I'll go with the first option. Too bad.

Never will RS put a damper on sleuthing! Personally I'm waiting for more s/caps!

We won't be getting new SC till around HTDs.

umngirl wrote:

Aunties_Love wrote:

jen689 wrote:Does anyone know if there has been a season when the F1's introduction video was not shown either during the first episode or on ABC's website?

This season we don't get to see Nick and Marcus's video's.  

With out relying on the spoilers I'm just wondering if this may be a clue to who is the F1  

Of the final four in the respective seasons:

Ali =  Chris L, Frank, Kirk
Ashley =  Jp, Ben, Ames
Emily =  Jef, Arie
Des=  Drew, Zack


Jason = Melissa/yes   Molly/no Jillian/yes
Jake = Vienna/Tenley/Gia/Ali  yes
Brad 2.0= Emily/Chantal/Ashley/Shawntel all yes
Ben = Courtney/Lindzi/Nicki/Kacie all yes
Sean = Ashlee and Desiree only
Juan P = Nikki, Clare, Andi, and Renee

For Emily's season Sean had his as a deleted scene on the bachelor website. Same for Cat, hers was a deleted scene.

What do you mean Umn?

nd4reality wrote:So in conclusion neither the inclusion of the eventual F1 is the intro vids nor in CHs 5 to watch list is an indication of an F1.

True, but for some reason, usually the F1 and F2 has a group date together before epi 5.

Aunties_Love wrote:

umngirl wrote:

Aunties_Love wrote:

jen689 wrote:Does anyone know if there has been a season when the F1's introduction video was not shown either during the first episode or on ABC's website?

This season we don't get to see Nick and Marcus's video's.  

With out relying on the spoilers I'm just wondering if this may be a clue to who is the F1  

Of the final four in the respective seasons:

Ali =  Chris L, Frank, Kirk
Ashley =  Jp, Ben, Ames
Emily =  Jef, Arie
Des=  Drew, Zack


Jason = Melissa/yes   Molly/no Jillian/yes
Jake = Vienna/Tenley/Gia/Ali  yes
Brad 2.0= Emily/Chantal/Ashley/Shawntel all yes
Ben = Courtney/Lindzi/Nicki/Kacie all yes
Sean = Ashlee and Desiree only
Juan P = Nikki, Clare, Andi, and Renee

For Emily's season Sean had his as a deleted scene on the bachelor website. Same for Cat, hers was a deleted scene.

What do you mean Umn?

Jen689 asked if a F1 has ever had an intro video that wasn't shown in the first episode OR as a deleted scene. I was just adding to your list as it wasn't complete.

soccermom333 wrote:

nd4reality wrote:Boy the sleuthing boards are like a graveyard these days. Seems like RS' spoiler has put a damp blanket on the proceedings    . Either that or everyone is gone underground and is resorting to PMs only.
I'll go with the first option. Too bad.

I agree, but it wasn't just the spoiling of the final 1 but the video of Nick that some "fan" gave to RS.  That definitely put a damper on things regardless if you believe RS or not.  

Probably in the minority here, but that silly Nick Vid did nothing for me. Maybe it proves the outcome, maybe not. In fact, I was sold lock, stock and barrel that his spoiler (which I only found out in a google search without visiting his site) was correct UNTIL somebody PMed the video. The way he "explained" everything and acted all "hot" about people suggesting his guy is not the winner made me think something-something is up. Watching it a couple times, I picked up some loopholes he wasn't catching (i.e. we still don't see his face to be sure he's not BSing, the name "Josh" technically only comes up once, we can't hear the person on the other side so "he" may involve more than one person, we don't know if this season has a "normal" ending, etc... etc.). None of this suggests his spoiler is wrong necessarily... just that nothing is as 100% certain as he thinks.

I was going to be content to just "dabble" with the limo arrivals and "highlights" on youtube, but because Steve once again got me questioning (as he gets us to do EVERY season until he is either proven right or wrong at the end), I wound up watching the whole stupid episode in detail, jotting down dialogue and freeze-framing shots, and then the promos. Made my own detailed edit "notes", which I am not sure if I should post here or not. (Last season was too much of a headache.)

Trying to stay as balanced as possible between two of the contestants (ruling out Nick and Marcus). Josh is getting a Bachelor-ish edit, reminding me of Jason in DeAnna's and Trista's F2 Charlie, but might be F1 depending on how his storyline progresses. Chris is very F1-ish in edit already and with her body language, but you know how often they bamboozle us.

They are also playing games with the voice-overs (yuck! ew!) like Chris Harrison saying over a solo shot of Josh "you will be going home immediately" and Andi over Chris "finding love here". Wish they would quit this if it is all a smokescreen "gotcha", because it gets one group of viewers' hopes up regarding one contestant over another.

I also choked on a drink and made a mess all over the place when Andi told one guy (whom I forgot his name): "If I wasn't open to moving somewhere else, I might as well not have come here. I might as well stay in Atlanta and try to date someone there". Oh really now!

Let's not forget that Fleiss & ABC is up to this kind of s**t (pardon my vulgar French) that I absolutely cannot stand...
See "amber-waves-of-grain" Kiss in pre-RS spoiler promo: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4JLGTKimVQw
See "amber-waves-of-grain" Kiss go "poof" in 2nd promo: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ClgzFYR2IZg

Hey... I have DVD of each movie: GONE WITH THE WIND with the burning of Atlanta or "Is this heaven? No, it's Iowa" FIELD OF DREAMS to watch when this stupid show is over with. Don't matter to me.

We would appreciate a run down of the free framing shots, VO emphasis etc. if you have the time and inclination. I would still not rule out either Nick or Marcus but that is just me at this point. Perhaps you have your reasons.

It's rather clear that the F1s are not included in Chris H's 5 to watch. It's been determined that Andi's F4 guys are Chris, Josh, Nick and Marcus. Chris H's 5 to watch includes Chris and Josh which leaves Nick and Marcus of the F4 to be the F1. AND, since we've already seen a video of Nick on his exist flight, we know that he's not F1. So IMO, that would leave Marcus as F1. Also, Marcus was not featured in video during Ep. 1; but, if I'm not mistaken Josh also shown in a video during Ep. 1.

I really appreciate your incite, JBF!