Re: * No Spoilers* The Bachelor 18 FINALE (LCD/MTP/FRC) Discussion- Thread #2

by Mommyof2 Mon Mar 10, 2014 4:21 pm

clueless wrote:Has there been any speculation as to why Nikki flew into (LA or Vegas) on Thursday which seems way early if you are F2 girl. She tweeted about Katsuya and there is one in LA and Vegas and JP has been in LA and Vegas this last couple of days.

Interesting. Maybe Oklahoma Joe's just wasn't cutting it anymore! giggling

by Maggenzm Mon Mar 10, 2014 5:52 pm

mprssdbyu wrote:I think someone put a bug in her ear before she got there. I really do...somebody did some strong hinting! I think Clare was ready for not being chosen and tried to one up Juan Pablo and in a sense be not so nice. TPTB didn't like JP and definitely didn't like oceangate so they thought they were fixing him. I think that's what CH keeps alluding to as in can't wait to hear what the public thinks.

Molly from last week podcast said that she is convinced that Clare doesn't want/love Juan, she came in with a purpose of either being a bachelorette or get enough publiciy to get in the movies." she said her PIs are too perfect like someone who knew coming in the perks of the show,, someone who prepared herself for the sucess. I don't know about that, but what I noticed listening to her in HTD and other dates, her conversations are centered around her dad, that 's all she has talked about, how her father loved her and how Juan loves his daughter and can love her like that. She has not ask nor said anything else about Juan. IMO, she is in love with the idea of man who will love her like her father. I don't think Juan is going to be able to meet that expectation. I hope she finds that love.

by quietpal Mon Mar 10, 2014 5:55 pm

Maggenzm wrote:Molly from last week podcast said that she is convinced that Clare doesn't want/love Juan, she came in with a purpose of either being a bachelorette or get enough publiciy to get in the movies." she said her PIs are too perfect like someone who knew coming in the perks of the show,, someone who prepared herself for the sucess. I don't know about that, but what I noticed listening to her in HTD and other dates, her conversations are centered around her dad, that 's all she has talked about, how her father loved her and how Juan loves his daughter and can love her like that. She has not ask nor said anything else about Juan. IMO, she is in love with the idea of man who will love her like her father. I don't think Juan is going to be able to meet that expectation. I hope she finds that love.

I agree, particularly with the bold, and I too hope she finds love!

by iamreal2u Mon Mar 10, 2014 5:56 pm

And JuanPa liked her podcast. Interesting. I guess her best performance is coming up tonight.

by nd4reality Mon Mar 10, 2014 5:56 pm

Maggenzm wrote:
mprssdbyu wrote:I think someone put a bug in her ear before she got there. I really do...somebody did some strong hinting! I think Clare was ready for not being chosen and tried to one up Juan Pablo and in a sense be not so nice. TPTB didn't like JP and definitely didn't like oceangate so they thought they were fixing him. I think that's what CH keeps alluding to as in can't wait to hear what the public thinks.

Molly from last week podcast said that she is convinced that Clare doesn't want/love Juan, she came in with a purpose of either being a bachelorette or get enough publiciy to get in the movies." she said her PIs are too perfect like someone who knew coming in the perks of the show,, someone who prepared herself for the sucess. I don't know about that, but what I noticed listening to her in HTD and other dates, her conversations are centered around her dad, that 's all she has talked about, how her father loved her and how Juan loves his daughter and can love her like that. She has not ask nor said anything else about Juan. IMO, she is in love with the idea of man who will love her like her father. I don't think Juan is going to be able to meet that expectation. I hope she finds that love.

I can completely buy this line. It comes across really strong on her 1on1s. She gives a Melissa sort of vibe - perfect talk and ability to dissolve into tears and drama very easily.
She does look like some hollywood actress (a tiny bit like Michael s boss/girlfriend on The Office) and it would not surprise me to learn that she has had enhancement work done.
JMO.

ETA: Molly can probably see the same things that propelled Melissa into trying to morph herself into the perfect mate for Jason - all a huge pretense. Including her fake act at the ATFR when they were clearly already donzo weeks before.

by Maggenzm Mon Mar 10, 2014 5:59 pm

albean99 wrote:That was just the typical "I don't know what I'm going to do" game the leads play.

Do you think he told Clare that she "barely" made it to the f2? J/k ......... I think.

Could be, you know, he likes saying barely made it...

by Guest Mon Mar 10, 2014 6:21 pm

Poor Clare- I hope she is really F2. I can't imagine what will happen here if she is F1. It is amusing to me how each of these past contestants have different opinions on Clare and even Nikki for that matter. Trista has the opposite opinion about Clare and how she comes across on the show. I guess just like us here, this pple have their own personal biases that shapes their opinion and at the end, it is their opinion and not the gospel truth. You will think these ex-contestants having experienced first hand how pple can be negative and say lies that can hurt deeply, that this alone will make them a little bit more supportive of current contestants but

by Maggenzm Mon Mar 10, 2014 6:39 pm

lexforlife wrote:Poor Clare- I hope she is really F2. I can't imagine what will happen here if she is F1. It is amusing to me how each of these past contestants have different opinions on Clare and even Nikki for that matter. Trista has the opposite opinion about Clare and how she comes across on the show. I guess just like us here, this pple have their own personal biases that shapes their opinion and at the end, it is their opinion and not the gospel truth. You will think these ex-contestants having experienced first hand how pple can be negative and say lies that can hurt deeply, that this alone will make them a little bit more supportive of current contestants but

On her podcast about Andi, Molly said that she came in with the intention of turning down the rose at the F4 so she can become the next bachelorette, she told all her friends that's what she was going to do at the F4, but to her surprise, she was not able to turn down the rose cus she had fallen for him. I was very surprised to hear that, I never assumed someone will come to the show with that intention, but it is possible. Not to say that Clare has that intention, she has not said anything like that so what Molly and anyone says about her is pure speculation. . I am so ready for tonight. will it be Nikki or Claire? Whatever makes Juan happy will make me happy!!

by Rolly Mon Mar 10, 2014 6:50 pm

I really like Clare and hope she is F1. I watch JP and Clare and their feelings seem to be genuine and loving, I just don't see what many of you do in the JP/Nikki "love story". JP's choice will be interesting...they are very different women for sure.

I just don't understand where all of this hate for the contestants comes from? Can't we just prefer one over the other without being mean? Everybody has a right their opinion and is free to voice it in whatever way they want to .....maybe that's just how these boards work. I don't think it's easy for anybody being on this show and they are all at the mercy of TPTB and how they edit them. I'm going to give them all the benefit of the doubt....JP included. I still think he was thrown under the bus and then they drove over him back and forth about a dozen times...JMO. :yes:

I guess I give everyone the benefit of the doubt except TPTB. giggling

I think the ending will be interesting no matter who is F1. I'm expecting some twists and turns tonight (maybe even :atomic:) and can't wait for it all to start. See you all on the other side....

by 4health Mon Mar 10, 2014 6:57 pm

Rolly wrote:I really like Clare and hope she is F1. I watch JP and Clare and their feelings seem to be genuine and loving, I just don't see what many of you do in the JP/Nikki "love story". JP's choice will be interesting...they are very different women for sure.

I just don't understand where all of this hate for the contestants comes from? Can't we just prefer one over the other without being mean? Everybody has a right their opinion and is free to voice it in whatever way they want to .....maybe that's just how these boards work. I don't think it's easy for anybody being on this show and they are all at the mercy of TPTB and how they edit them. I'm going to give them all the benefit of the doubt....JP included. I still think he was thrown under the bus and then they drove over him back and forth about a dozen times...JMO. I guess I give everyone the benefit of the doubt except TPTB.

I think the ending will be interesting no matter who is F1. I'm expecting some twists and turns tonight (maybe even :atomic: and can't wait for it all to start. See you all on the other side....

I am with you rolly……there are posters here that is surprised that I am a Clare fan and that I openly admit it….WHAT ….she is beautiful, full of life, she had more of the contestants on the teamClare (watch WTA again) then Nikki did……everyone deserves happiness…..both ladies which ever way it does play out. But, once again tptb did great this season and I hope that when it is all said and done we can look back and say that it was a great season especially here on these boards……some day I am sure we will get the truth on this season we usually do….bring it on bachelor nation.

by iamreal2u Mon Mar 10, 2014 7:11 pm

This is going to be hilarious if it turns out to be Clare. lol...

by clueless Mon Mar 10, 2014 7:21 pm

iamreal2u wrote:This is going to be hilarious if it turns out to be Clare. lol...

I have thought the majority on this board believed Clare is the F1.

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