*No Spoilers* The Bachelor 18 Edit Discussions #2

2observe wrote:

JBF wrote:Did he really? Or was it just the song he picked that gave her "reassurance"? Brooks got "I Choose You" by Andy Grammer on his first date and THAT didn't get him to stay.

But it's my understanding that JP chose a song that he sang and possibly wrote.  Brooks' and Clare's songs were selected by Production.  

You mean Desiree and CHRIS' song was picked by production.

glazedover wrote:

4health wrote:I have to came here and state that after watching the new video that was release…(which I figured would be JP and Nikki) I truly don't want either one of these ladies to be the F1….Juan Pablo can go back to Venezuela and leave the American women alone.  UGH!….I don't care which video has the deepest connection or JP is different here and there ….. it is just wrong to lead these women on….No wander tptb is driving a train over him….

EVERY season, bachelor and bachelorette alike, except for Ali, the lead leads the F2 on. This is no different. It is the premise of the show. TBTB makes it so.

Emily let Arie go early.

atem wrote:

2observe wrote:

JBF wrote:Did he really? Or was it just the song he picked that gave her "reassurance"? Brooks got "I Choose You" by Andy Grammer on his first date and THAT didn't get him to stay.

But it's my understanding that JP chose a song that he sang and possibly wrote.  Brooks' and Clare's songs were selected by Production.  

You mean Desiree and CHRIS' song was picked by production.

Thus the reason for Chris' poetry.

Some of my favorite Nikki scenes and lines. I didn't want you folks to think I don't love her as equally as Tierra... oops! I mean Clare. Who knows? Maybe something here suggests she's F1?

Night #1

Nikki: I work in a children's hospital in Kansas City.
Juan: Kansas City?
Nikki: Missouri. Mid-west girl.
Juan: I like the little downtown area.
Nikki: Yeah... I live kinda around there.
Juan: Ohhhh... I like this.
Nikki: Yeah, you should come see it.
Juan: I might have to.
Nikki: Sometime.
Juan: I might have to. You'll never know. You want me to go now?
Nikki: Yeah! You want to go now? Is that OK?
Juan: You want me to go now? Is that what you say?
Nikki: I dunno. Should we go?
Juan: Ahhhh... maybe next week? (Next...) No, maybe a couple months. We'll figure it out.
Nikki: Right. I think we will.
Juan: Maybe.
Nikki: Yeah
Juan: You'll never know.

Doggie Date:

Nikki: You need to tone it down. OK?
Victoria: Why?
Nikki: I think everybody thinks you are a little hammered and crazy right now.
Victoria: I just got here. I'm not hammered.
Nikki: OK. That's fine.
Vitoria: I have not even had one glass of champagne.
Nikki: Good. Good.
Victoria: This is how I am sober. (PI session) Just want me some Juan Pablo... all the time. All the time. (Victoria to Nikki) I'm just FUN sober... and if anybody knows anything, Juan Pablo seems to love FUN. So... (back to her PI session) If Juan Pablo so happens to be mine, I will straddle him every ddddaaaaayyyyy. 'Cause that's what life is about. Straddling people... and things. (Victoria to Nikki again) I appreciate your imput though.
Nikki: I'm just looking out for you.
Victoria: I know. It's like...
Nikki: Trying to get your heads up.
Victoria: Like Kelly told me earlier, like, she wants to put a bark collar on me because I'm too loud.
Nikki: But you are not a dog and you are not a child.
Victoria: I'm not a dog. I'm just a bitch.

Juan to Nikki: What happened to Victoria?
Nikki:She had a little too much
Juan: Is she drink a little bit?
Nikki (eye roll): A little bit?
Juan: Did she drink a little bit a lot?

Soccer date:

"I would love the rose, but there are other people out there that want it too, like... I don't know how these girls are with him. So you don't know who's a threat because you don't know what his type is." (Referring to this Clare-less group date. All of her dates are... alas... Clare-less. Wonder why the handlers did that?)

"I wasn't expecting to get a rose, but I did. You know, I don't want to rub it in anyone's face but..." (playful dance move)

Korea:

"This blows. I’m half way around the world and I’m going to be spending the day tomorrow with five other girls who are quite annoying."

"Everyone’s afraid to hurt someone’s feelings. Everyone’s afraid to step on someone’s toes. In reality, there are things that I think about people that that person probably might not want to hear it. / I do think there are some people who might be here for more fun than something real. / I’ll say it. I think Kat acts one way with us and the cameras come around and she’s like... who wants some guacamole? / You can’t get what you want by being fake. It doesn’t happen. It doesn’t work that way… and Kat is so “on” all the time, so over the top, that there is no way that is real."

"This isn’t a game for me. This is something real and I want a real relationship with him."

"I would love the rose tonight because I feel I deserve the rose. Not because I’m the best dancer but because I was a real person. Because I was ME."

"I got the rose on the group date... again. I think everybody hates me right now, but I've been myself and I really like him. I do have butterflies and I want this feeling to last forever. I can see myself falling in love with Juan Pablo."

"So I just finished my 1 on 1 time with Juan Pablo and I can't get over the fact that he kinda hinted that there may be some kind of problem in the house. Y'know... I can only think he just came from time with Clare, someone who doesn't really like me that much. I dunno. I dunno what Clare said to him."

"I think Clare's threatened by me. Like I'm sick of it. I'm not going to walk on egg shells around her."
Clare: If you were to be how you are around the house around him, I don't see that warranting, like, a rose.
Nikki: But YOU are not handing out the roses.

Vietnam:

"Getting another group date would suck, but if I was just on a group date card, like, I might not get the rose on the group date...That would just be stupid because I always do."

"Clare comes back from her 1 on 1 time from Juan Pablo and they are not, like, hand and hand, arm and arm. I feel, like, there's a little bit of tension between them. I have no idea what's going on."

"We got a very sombre vibe from him. Something bad is happening." (cue screenshot of Clare)

Sadly, her classic outtake interview with Andi, badmouthing Clare, on abc.com was removed. I so wanted to quote that one. The barbecue sauce was just oozing with spice.

New Zealand:

"I feel a little anxious tonight. Y'know, everybody else does too, but I don't think anybody else has the same connection that Juan Pablo and I have... so I need to make sure I am not going home."

Juan: "Nikki... she told me 'I really like you'. I'm like 'wow'. I'm not asking. She is just saying it... and I'm, like, this is good. Nikki, watch out!"

Miami:

No point quoting the whole thing, just watch it yourselves: [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]

Best line: "Clare is like a dawg. She peed on him first, like she claimed her territory... and the fact is... she claimed some territory that MIGHT NOT be hers."

"After the confrontation Clare and I had last night, the last thing I want to do is go and hang out with my boyfriend... with Crazy Clare."

"I would be very happy to see Clare go home tonight and I think if Juan Pablo goes to Clare's hometown, he has a giant crazy family to meet. I mean... she couldn't have got crazy all on her own. It had to come from somewhere."

"Well I have a rose. Wait... I don't? Pretty much."

To Andi: "I just look at the way he interacts with some other people and, like, is so different than the way we interact and, like, I just can't imagine him keeping "That" around over what WE have."

"I'm really ready to be separated, y'know, from most of the girls in the house and get this night over with so I can take my boyfriend home to meet my family."

"I feel that I have the strongest relationship with him right now. I mean... I met the guy's family. I met his daughter and, like, that didn't happen for everyone else this week... and, so I think, that says a lot about, y'know, where he holds our relationship... and I think Clare sees the connection that Juan Pablo and I have and, I think, y'now, it's intimidating."

"I just cannot get this night over with because, after tonight, there is going to be a huge chunk of time that I don't have to spend with Clare ever again. I just don't even want to look at her. I don't want to hear what she has to say. I just... I just want to be away from her for a very very long time, like, preferably forever."

Hometown:

Juan: "She takes me to Oklahoma Joe's Barbecue. I didn't even know what that was. The spicy barbecue sauce... Uh! (followed by an onscreen "Uh".) Barbecue ribs and chicken barbecue, fries with spicy barbecue sauce. It was amazing. I had a blast eating with Nikki. Ah man. I will get fat eating that barbecue every day. Oh yes."
Cue sign reading Slaughterhouse Five with a fattened cow silhouette.
Nikki to Juan: "I thought you might like this."

"It didn't feel right to tell him that I loved him and I came so close to telling him and I didn't. I don't know why."

Fantasy date... Awwwwwww! She IS a sweetheart here and I almost, but not quite, want her to be the next Bachelorette:

"It feels really good to tell Juan Pablo how I feel and I feels like a weight is lifted off my shoulders. I feel awesome right now and I don’t want this night to end. I don’t want the sun to come up in the morning. I want this night and this moment to last for forever."

EW extra:

"He's playing that song for me and I am, like, soheadoverheelsandinloveandsohappyand... I'm... just... ontopoftheworld and I feel like that is like almost his reassurance... of him telling me like... I'm the only one for him..."

(Our cute little song: "I wasn't expecting this so soon, but love comes quickly when it is meant to be. Every broken heart... every tear I cried"... the lyrics match Juan's dilemma this season, love came quickly for him and he is breaking every heart and crying each time. Yet did he fall "quickly" for Nikki or Clare?)

"but there is somebody else here and, like, that's the reality... and if tomorrow he's saying it is great but not with me, I would be heartbroken... and angry. I mean... if he sends me home after playing that song... I mean, that's just me. And he could have played any song or no song and he played that one... I mean, if he played that song for me and he sends me home tomorrow, what an a$%hole."

atem wrote:

glazedover wrote:

4health wrote:I have to came here and state that after watching the new video that was release…(which I figured would be JP and Nikki) I truly don't want either one of these ladies to be the F1….Juan Pablo can go back to Venezuela and leave the American women alone.  UGH!….I don't care which video has the deepest connection or JP is different here and there ….. it is just wrong to lead these women on….No wander tptb is driving a train over him….

EVERY season, bachelor and bachelorette alike, except for Ali, the lead leads the F2 on. This is no different. It is the premise of the show. TBTB makes it so.

Emily let Arie go early.  

You are absolutely correct, atem, but it was such a miserable rejection I forgot about that.

glazedover wrote:

atem wrote:

glazedover wrote:

4health wrote:I have to came here and state that after watching the new video that was release…(which I figured would be JP and Nikki) I truly don't want either one of these ladies to be the F1….Juan Pablo can go back to Venezuela and leave the American women alone.  UGH!….I don't care which video has the deepest connection or JP is different here and there ….. it is just wrong to lead these women on….No wander tptb is driving a train over him….

EVERY season, bachelor and bachelorette alike, except for Ali, the lead leads the F2 on. This is no different. It is the premise of the show. TBTB makes it so.

Emily let Arie go early.  

You are absolutely correct, atem, but it was such a miserable rejection I forgot about that.

Correct….but I didn't see a forever with either of them with Emily….sorry to say this but I never really liked Emily. I liked Jef but I didn't like Jef for Emily. I liked Arie but I didn't think it was true love….but I couldn't see anyone with Emily even Brad 2.0 ….. to each their own right.

Hey guys! Which one of you wants to kick me first?

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 JBF, eeeezzz ok. Nikki won a price alright :bigsmile: 

Omg this was hilarious!!

At least RS got something wrong- No ATFR engagement  

Phew, what can I say. It's been fun watching the show with y'all. Special shout-outs to Litta123, JBF, Mura!

JBF wrote:Hey guys! Which one of you wants to kick me first?

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Me! Me!! Me!!! It's okay, I stuck with Clare to the end too. I'm no longer #TeamJuanPablo, though. I wish EVERYONE all the best and happiness.