Re: *No Spoilers* The Bachelor 18 Screencap discussions- thread #3

[Guest]

I just can't overlook the time stamps and the fact that we see Clare going in and leaving in the SCs. There's no reason I can come up that explains the last part and I really doubt they'd manipulate the time stamps because those pics are for the media. They don't care at all about the sleuthers.

Yep. This is one of the main reasons I believe Clare is rejected. IDK what happens with Nikki because like DeAnna she could also not come up roses.  
But Clare is definitely rejected because of the timestamps.

thanks for weighing in, albean and nd.... its a lesson learned to me to not carelessly quoting something without the full knowledge of it. so in regard to the doctored time stamp,i have had it deleted in my post.  :Smiley: 

[FLChica]

I just can't overlook the time stamps and the fact that we see Clare going in and leaving in the SCs. There's no reason I can come up that explains the last part and I really doubt they'd manipulate the time stamps because those pics are for the media. They don't care at all about the sleuthers.

I agree with you albean. The time stamps on the photographs give us a timeline of Clare's arrival and departure from the FRC location. Obviously we don't have what went down, we have to wait until Monday for that. But I think it is pretty conclusive evidence that Clare is F2. The outcome with Nikki is uncertain, but she does arrive second.

Is there anything to suggest that Clare just won't take no for an answer and that she reunites with Juan Pablo on the ATFR show? Or is that too similar to what happened with Jason and Molly?

[Aunties_Love]

This is another of his tweets. Shows he thinks of  drama when talking about Clare

Rodolfo Soules ‏@rodolfoelchamo  Feb 10
Clare and @JuanPaGalavis MORE DRAMA coming up... Who did what?   #TheBachelor
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The show, producers, cousin, etc are screaming a no-Clare pick.  To me that so means he picks Clare!!

Lol. Couldn't have said it better :)

About time you showed up. I was looking for your Blooper Reel screencap. It got lost among the acres and acres of pro-Nikki posts.

I also noticed on that blooper reel that Clare says "I love that you say it's OK. even if you don't know if it is OK" after the helicopter ride, so whatever she was fussing about in that preview snippet may have been taken care of... or not.

Humorously, Nikki asks who is killing a cat... and Juan and Kelly are holding one earlier. Hope it is not the same one!

Also intriguing, Nikki's cat comment follows 1.) Juan spooked by a rat and 2.) Clare spooked by a bug. I can only guess what is implied by that three part montage.

I enjoy your posts JBF, they make me think and I like that…..

I couldn't agree more... 4Health

JBF: Did you find the cap you were wanting that was burried in the pro Nikki threads as you were saying?

Just to keep things interesting as we really haven't got a lot more to talk about here till finale
I got a question for you all:

It is kind of a two parter as some feel that Nikki will be the F1, others don't


For the Nikki supporters, What exactly do you think cinches her being F1? There has got to be one thing that sold you on it.
Are there possibilities for any other ending other than Nikki and what would it be?


For Clare supporters: Knowing the time stamps seem off, what still makes you feel Clare is F1?



For either camp... do you think that this is a slam dunk and when did you think that?

[mprssdbyu]

 I'll go first! Please remember this is JMO. I tend to come sounding like it is what it is when FRC hasn't occured...but

For me, from night one it was about Sharlene, Nikki, Andi, Clare and Renee. By episode 5 after Nikki's FIRST 1-1, it became about Sharlene and Nikki. He realized how much more time Clare had spent with him. He knew she felt secure and had somewhat claimed ownership of him by visiting him in the middle of the night. You have to remember JP isn't privy to TPTB shenanigans as in the many suggestions they have that they know will cause DRAMA. Anyway, I knew or felt it wasn't Clare the moment he asked her not to do it again. That isn't what he said but that was his message. When you're totally "INTO SOMEONE" and come to the show to find "THE ONE" hopefully, you don't deliver that message. At that point, I knew Clare took a backseat to Sharlene and Nikki. It was even more apparent to me when that was Nikki's first 1-1 date...it told me how well it went in JP's eyes. I honestly feel if Sharlene had stayed we would have a totally different edit of JP and Clare would not be part of the FRC. Now, who do I think he would have chosen? I really have no idea. I'm not sure I could have even guessed. I do think Nikki is the best fit for him, though and for some reason I think he's figured that out. I do believe the success of their relationship will totally depend on her. It's just a feeling I get but I think she has his ear and his emotions have now become all in. What that equates to, I don't know just yet but I do feel she can emotionally handle him in a way that he may not have been privy to in the past ...That's my 2 cents and I'm sticking to it.

[rosesrREd]

I just can't overlook the time stamps and the fact that we see Clare going in and leaving in the SCs. There's no reason I can come up that explains the last part and I really doubt they'd manipulate the time stamps because those pics are for the media. They don't care at all about the sleuthers.

I agree. You can possibly explain away the time stamps, by saying it was when the pictures were downloaded. However, how do you explain the SC that clearly has Clare coming in one direction, and then another that has her seemingly leaving in the opposite direction?  

[mprssdbyu]

On another note, I'm beginning to wonder if someone put a bug in Clare's ear and she was somewhat privy to how this may play out. She's talking about a ring on that finger the morning of FRC but when he starts to back slide during their conversation, does she tell him to stick it where the sun don't shine? I just don't think we have a crying Clare leaving in a limo/boat! On the other hand, I think he is emotionally undone. How on earth he's going to gather his composure and make it through Nikki's FRC... I HAVE NO IDEA! I've been concerned about that for weeks.

[richmondrose]

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[Guest]

i will post my reasonings later on...in my upcoming post of this season in a (giant) nut shell   

as for the time stamp, i dont think its 'off'..i just think something interesting will go down at the finale, that is not as simple as he picked the F1 who came first and dump the F2 who came later. I personally think Clare will look like such a blubbering mess if he is indeed rejected her minutes before (in the pic CH 'allegedly' walked her away)

[richmondrose]

I don't know who to believe is F1 and both camps have made compelling arguments. I am however  suspect of the medianet pictures, and although I don't  believe that the time stamps have been altered, I am inclined to think that since they are limited to the arrival of the girls only, there is more to this than meets the eye. Something is being hidden and I'm really curious to see how this plays out in the end.

[notarose]

I'm looking for the video that was posted today with CH & JP talking about Clare. Can someone direct me to the correct thread?
Just thought of something and need to see it again

[docnash14]

I'm looking for the video that was posted today with CH & JP talking about Clare.  Can someone direct me to the correct thread?
Just thought of something and need to see it again

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[Aunties_Love]

I just can't overlook the time stamps and the fact that we see Clare going in and leaving in the SCs. There's no reason I can come up that explains the last part and I really doubt they'd manipulate the time stamps because those pics are for the media. They don't care at all about the sleuthers.

They've manipulated them in the past so why not this time?

Is that the only thing that gives you pause??

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