Re: *No Spoilers* The Bachelor 18 Screencap discussions- thread #3

[Guest]

^^ The Cocky Californian Guy. He just moved her a couple of years ago...

LOL..thanks for filing me in chloep...  

[2observe]

I still think something wacky happens at FRC... like a contestant boomeranging for a return visit... either as The One or as the dumpee giving him a piece of her mind.

ITA   

Im on board with wacky FRC, JBF!!...i know you are still 100% Clare...sooo..what is your "conspiracy theory" about the time stamp??      Please spill the beans, Mister!!   #dyingtoknow  

also. isn't it weird, if Clare indeed broken hearted, why JPab didnt escort her away?   

Oh... I'm clueless. The time stamps are probably consistent with the episode #1 limo arrivals since hardly anybody on the message boards bother with them. However the FRC shots have definitely been "played with" in the past. A major game changer was Jillian's season, when there was a big gap between Kiptyn and Ed and no shots of Reid making his boomerang return inbetween. Posters on Fans Of Reality TV noted how muddy her dress got from Kip to Ed. There was ssssssoooooo much thread discussion that season that you just knew Fleiss & Co. noticed.

Yet... I do think Nikki appears after Clare in some curious way. Maybe... just to Be As Fair As Possible... Nikki could be F1.

Or... something else happens. Like she comes back for answers the same way Shannon did after being rejected by Alex in Bachelor 1. (That, however, was after fantasy dates. Trista was F2.) There are all kinds of scenarios here. One thing is for certain... when Juan promises we will be surprised and Chris Harrison insists the ending is "shocking", we can at least expect something resembling Des' boo-hoo over Brooks... or better. Jesse Palmer's season had F2 Tara accuse him of "being inappropriate".

I mean... if Andi can chew him out... and all of the ladies on WTA chew him out... I fully expect one more Great Performance.

I think that the majority of non-spoiled viewers think that Clare is F1, so imo, the viewing audience would be really shocked when she arrives first and gets rejected.  Clare's first 1st 1 on 1 reminded me was so over the top and involved the public.  That always spells F2 to me.

I guessss you are right. After all, I have nothing against Nikki being F1. Just struggling to imagine what ATFR will be like.

I mean... picture this: Juan and Nikki cuddling together on the couch. Enter Chris Harrison sporting his HUGE cheezy grin as he presents their montage of Classic Journey Moments...

...and, by accident, they reel footage of Winter Wonderland hot-tub make-out
...post octopus and choc-O-late make-out
..."Let's not kiss" make-out
...OceanGate make-out ("Oh my gosh! Clare. She’s on fire… en llamas… en llamas. Aye aye aye.")
...New Zealand make-out over a repeat of "I never thought I'd feel this way for another lover of the first degree... Gives me shakes the way she role my sweetest ache she lose control"
...Sacramento park make-out while geese, angry bees and Sammy Squirrel go about their business
...yacht make-out and Juan's "disrobing" of you-know-who
...fantasy date hot-tub make-out
...Andi yelling at him for bringing up Clare on her fantasy date
...and all interspersed with the future Mrs. Galavis voice-overing: "Clare is like a dawg. She peed on him first, like she claimed her territory... and the fact is... she claimed some territory that might not be hers." (By the way, you smell like Heaven In A Bottle, Babe.)

Nikki would be ready.....remember they are brutally honest with each other. I have no doubt that she knows what went on behind the scenes.

[notarose]

She looks really neat here  Compare the the other pictures.

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Are there shoe prints going the opposite direction of Clare--toward the boat. Looks like high heels going toward the boat. Do they belong to Nikki? Would they leave on the boat too?

I believe you can see high-heels going both directions and flat shoe prints going back to the boat.  Those have sunk in more than Clare's do.  

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What I noticed is that Nikki's really sink into the sand compared to Clare's.

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For consideration:
Footprints may have been anyone from production - a camera man for example boarding a boat so he can film her approach from the water ( explains why she walked on the beach before he landed again)
Little holes may not be heel prints but any variety of burrowing creations common in the Caribbean - it looks like low tide but maybe it's just the pic angle


Of course, they could be foot/heel prints.

[julychild]

This is not in argument for or against anyone- obviously no one will move from their camps at this point, but to just chip in on the time-stamp issue.

If you look at the full caption, you'll notice that the time sequence in question is the Creation Date which may not necessarily be the exact date and time the photos were taken. This would explain why Renee's HTD photos have creation dates that look something like this: 10/29/2013 2:22:56 AM , yet we all know that her HTD didn't take place after midnight.

This answer to a question on the difference between Creation Date and date image was taken would explain it better:

Re: Date creation is different from date photo taken in Finder
May 5, 2012 8:39 AM (in response to cmhorg)
Think of the difference between photos and files  --  liek the difference between a file and a letter - the date the letter was written may or may not be the same as the date it was saved
On your memory card of course the date the file was created and the date the photo was taken are the same - they both happened on the same date
But when you move the file to your computer a new files is created to hold the photo - that is created on the import date
Files contain data - it may be a photo, a letter, an excel spread sheet or any thing else - the finder works with files and show the file metadata - creation date of the file (nothing at all to do with the contents of the file), last modified date of the file, size of the file, etc
Photos on the other hand have different data about them - date taken, lens used, exposure setting, camera type, etc, etc  --  this is stored as part of the photo in the EXIF fields or the IPTC fields - this is the photo metadata
Photo managers like iPhoto display the photo metadata  --  file managers like the finder display the file metadata  --  they often are totally different and there certainly is no reason to expect them to be the same
So to view photos and photo metadata use a photo program not a file manager

[Hotmomma]

Wow - so many posts around these threads coughing up conspiracy theories to put forward proof that the timestamps are wrong and that despite the fact that Clare came first according to the timestamps, she is actually F1.

I do wonder if the positions were reversed and Nikki had the earlier timestamps if the pro-Clare camp would not be celebrating today and considering the season a slam dunk with Clare as F1 ?

Anyone ? Just mighty curious.

  

[rosesrREd]

This is not in argument for or against anyone- obviously no one will move from their camps at this point, but to just chip in on the time-stamp issue.

If you look at the full caption, you'll notice that the time sequence in question is the Creation Date which may not necessarily be the exact date and time the photos were taken. This would explain why Renee's HTD photos have creation dates that look something like this: 10/29/2013 2:22:56 AM , yet we all know that her HTD didn't take place after midnight.

This answer to a question on the difference between Creation Date and date image was taken would explain it better:

Re: Date creation is different from date photo taken in Finder
May 5, 2012 8:39 AM (in response to cmhorg)
Think of the difference between photos and files  --  liek the difference between a file and a letter - the date the letter was written may or may not be the same as the date it was saved
On your memory card of course the date the file was created and the date the photo was taken are the same - they both happened on the same date
But when you move the file to your computer a new files is created to hold the photo - that is created on the import date
Files contain data - it may be a photo, a letter, an excel spread sheet or any thing else - the finder works with files and show the file metadata - creation date of the file (nothing at all to do with the contents of the file), last modified date of the file, size of the file, etc
Photos on the other hand have different data about them - date taken, lens used, exposure setting, camera type, etc, etc  --  this is stored as part of the photo in the EXIF fields or the IPTC fields - this is the photo metadata
Photo managers like iPhoto display the photo metadata  --  file managers like the finder display the file metadata  --  they often are totally different and there certainly is no reason to expect them to be the same
So to view photos and photo metadata use a photo program not a file manager

Is the creation day, the actual day of the FRC?

[snoosnoo]

my thoughts after reading many of the responses:

- it is the same path/gate, yes the lantern is lit
- I can't tell which is shot first from the lighting or sand/footprints
- Nikki's dress is slutty, as in, too slutty. as many of her outfits have been during the season, and that tattoo.. okay. I'm a guy and if my girlfriend wore something like that I would let her know it looked that way just in case it wasn't her intent to do so.
- being nervous as indication of F1 being not nervous indicating F2? lol doesn't sound right to me at all, everyone is different. sure it might turn out that way but I would say there isn't a correlation?

[richmondrose]

I'm just wondering if the note that JP may be reading here:


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Is the same as the note that Clare may have penned here (blue pen next to Clare):

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There is a larger SC in the latest preview which shows more of the room and there appears to be writing paper on the right beside table.

[snoosnoo]

also, the pictures with CH walking with clare/nikki.

in the picture with nikki, chris looks a bit more ragged.. his suit, hair, seem a bit messier.

that would indicate that nikki shows up after clare.

but i don't know, maybe it's just a picture quality issue.. the nikki picture is lower quality it seems.

[notarose]

I'm just wondering if the note that JP may be reading here:


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Is the same as the note that Clare may have penned here (blue pen next to Clare):

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There is a larger SC in the latest preview which shows more of the room and there appears to be writing paper on the right beside table.

Hope not because then we may have:
Night ocean swim like Courtney but with bathing suits
Dress sorta like Vienna
Letter before final rose like Catherine
Maybe shoes off if denied like Lindsay
.... Too suspect, like a super fan, so hopefully not the case

[richmondrose]

what shoes off? She has shoes in all of the SC I've seen.  Courtney, Vienna and Catherine were all F1.

[notarose]

what shoes off? She has shoes in all of the SC I've seen.  Courtney, Vienna and Catherine were all F1.

Speculation by some that she was carrying her shoes in a small pic posted further back in this thread.

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