Re: *No Spoilers* The Bachelor 18 Screencap discussions- thread #3

[2observe]

I still think something wacky happens at FRC... like a contestant boomeranging for a return visit... either as The One or as the dumpee giving him a piece of her mind.

ITA   

Im on board with wacky FRC, JBF!!...i know you are still 100% Clare...sooo..what is your "conspiracy theory" about the time stamp??      Please spill the beans, Mister!!   #dyingtoknow  

also. isn't it weird, if Clare indeed broken hearted, why JPab didnt escort her away?   

Oh... I'm clueless. The time stamps are probably consistent with the episode #1 limo arrivals since hardly anybody on the message boards bother with them. However the FRC shots have definitely been "played with" in the past. A major game changer was Jillian's season, when there was a big gap between Kiptyn and Ed and no shots of Reid making his boomerang return inbetween. Posters on Fans Of Reality TV noted how muddy her dress got from Kip to Ed. There was ssssssoooooo much thread discussion that season that you just knew Fleiss & Co. noticed.

Yet... I do think Nikki appears after Clare in some curious way. Maybe... just to Be As Fair As Possible... Nikki could be F1.

Or... something else happens. Like she comes back for answers the same way Shannon did after being rejected by Alex in Bachelor 1. (That, however, was after fantasy dates. Trista was F2.) There are all kinds of scenarios here. One thing is for certain... when Juan promises we will be surprised and Chris Harrison insists the ending is "shocking", we can at least expect something resembling Des' boo-hoo over Brooks... or better. Jesse Palmer's season had F2 Tara accuse him of "being inappropriate".

I mean... if Andi can chew him out... and all of the ladies on WTA chew him out... I fully expect one more Great Performance.

I think that the majority of non-spoiled viewers think that Clare is F1, so imo, the viewing audience would be really shocked when she arrives first and gets rejected. Clare's first 1st 1 on 1 reminded me was so over the top and involved the public. That always spells F2 to me.

[eirekay]

Are there shoe prints going the opposite direction of Clare--toward the boat. Looks like high heels going toward the boat. Do they belong to Nikki? Would they leave on the boat too?

If you look at the picture as Clare is getting off the boat, you've got to think that someone off camera helped steady her as she got on the dock. it just looks to precarious, no railings or anything to grab on to, to deal with in a gown and heels without a hand. I wouldn't put too much emphasis on footprints in the sand, JMO.

[Hotmomma]

I really think the F2 will leave by limo..so they can get her to talk and cry....

[4health]

I still think something wacky happens at FRC... like a contestant boomeranging for a return visit... either as The One or as the dumpee giving him a piece of her mind.

ITA   

Im on board with wacky FRC, JBF!!...i know you are still 100% Clare...sooo..what is your "conspiracy theory" about the time stamp??      Please spill the beans, Mister!!   #dyingtoknow  

also. isn't it weird, if Clare indeed broken hearted, why JPab didnt escort her away?   

Oh... I'm clueless. The time stamps are probably consistent with the episode #1 limo arrivals since hardly anybody on the message boards bother with them. However the FRC shots have definitely been "played with" in the past. A major game changer was Jillian's season, when there was a big gap between Kiptyn and Ed and no shots of Reid making his boomerang return inbetween. Posters on Fans Of Reality TV noted how muddy her dress got from Kip to Ed. There was ssssssoooooo much thread discussion that season that you just knew Fleiss & Co. noticed.

Yet... I do think Nikki appears after Clare in some curious way. Maybe... just to Be As Fair As Possible... Nikki could be F1.


Or... something else happens. Like she comes back for answers the same way Shannon did after being rejected by Alex in Bachelor 1. (That, however, was after fantasy dates. Trista was F2.) There are all kinds of scenarios here. One thing is for certain... when Juan promises we will be surprised and Chris Harrison insists the ending is "shocking", we can at least expect something resembling Des' boo-hoo over Brooks... or better. Jesse Palmer's season had F2 Tara accuse him of "being inappropriate".

I mean... if Andi can chew him out... and all of the ladies on WTA chew him out... I fully expect one more Great Performance.

I think that the majority of non-spoiled viewers think that Clare is F1, so imo, the viewing audience would be really shocked when she arrives first and gets rejected.  Clare's first 1st 1 on 1 reminded me was so over the top and involved the public.  That always spells F2 to me.

I don't know if I agree with you…sorry….from day one with the bachelor viewing parties that CH and JP attended there wasn't one person that had Clare on their list and also again last night WTA audience PI's no one really said Clare F1….also Clare wasn't even in the top 3 with Jimmy Kimmel. The few people I talk with they all think Nikki is final one. So I don't know why you say that majority non spoilers…..I find it is the opposite.

[USAGold]

I still think something wacky happens at FRC... like a contestant boomeranging for a return visit... either as The One or as the dumpee giving him a piece of her mind.

ITA   

Im on board with wacky FRC, JBF!!...i know you are still 100% Clare...sooo..what is your "conspiracy theory" about the time stamp??      Please spill the beans, Mister!!   #dyingtoknow  

also. isn't it weird, if Clare indeed broken hearted, why JPab didnt escort her away?   

Oh... I'm clueless. The time stamps are probably consistent with the episode #1 limo arrivals since hardly anybody on the message boards bother with them. However the FRC shots have definitely been "played with" in the past. A major game changer was Jillian's season, when there was a big gap between Kiptyn and Ed and no shots of Reid making his boomerang return inbetween. Posters on Fans Of Reality TV noted how muddy her dress got from Kip to Ed. There was ssssssoooooo much thread discussion that season that you just knew Fleiss & Co. noticed.

Yet... I do think Nikki appears after Clare in some curious way. Maybe... just to Be As Fair As Possible... Nikki could be F1.


Or... something else happens. Like she comes back for answers the same way Shannon did after being rejected by Alex in Bachelor 1. (That, however, was after fantasy dates. Trista was F2.) There are all kinds of scenarios here. One thing is for certain... when Juan promises we will be surprised and Chris Harrison insists the ending is "shocking", we can at least expect something resembling Des' boo-hoo over Brooks... or better. Jesse Palmer's season had F2 Tara accuse him of "being inappropriate".

I mean... if Andi can chew him out... and all of the ladies on WTA chew him out... I fully expect one more Great Performance.

I think that the majority of non-spoiled viewers think that Clare is F1, so imo, the viewing audience would be really shocked when she arrives first and gets rejected.  Clare's first 1st 1 on 1 reminded me was so over the top and involved the public.  That always spells F2 to me.

I don't know if I agree with you…sorry….from day one with the bachelor viewing parties that CH and JP attended there wasn't one person that had Clare on their list and also again last night WTA  audience PI's no one really said Clare F1….also Clare wasn't even in the top 3 with Jimmy Kimmel.    The few people I talk with they all think Nikki is final one.   So I don't know why you say that majority non spoilers…..I find it is the opposite.

I agree more think its Nikki & on JK show JP brought up Sacramento which was kinda odd!

[4health]

I really think the F2 will leave by limo..so they can get her to talk and cry....

You might be right….but I remember Ben arrived by boat and he left by boat…...

[Xgsmom]

I really think the F2 will leave by limo..so they can get her to talk and cry....

You might be right….but I remember Ben arrived by boat and he left by boat…...

In the small picture you posted, isn't it the same gate in the background, but the other side? This would suggest they are walking away from the site of the FRC. Back to the boat I would guess.

[Guest]

I still think something wacky happens at FRC... like a contestant boomeranging for a return visit... either as The One or as the dumpee giving him a piece of her mind.

ITA   

Im on board with wacky FRC, JBF!!...i know you are still 100% Clare...sooo..what is your "conspiracy theory" about the time stamp??      Please spill the beans, Mister!!   #dyingtoknow  

also. isn't it weird, if Clare indeed broken hearted, why JPab didnt escort her away?   

Didn't Ben refuse to let Ashley walk him out?

true..but still..i see that tiny pic goes with other frames of Clare GOING to FRC.  If indeed she is the F1 (which im leaning more based on so many caps of her PIs post-show) i suspect they pull a 'Jesse' again this season. JPab still undecisive when Clare arrived.....then he ask her to wait in a disclosed area nearby (escorted by CH) . then Nikki arrived, JPab did his 'business' with Nikki, the F2. Saying goodbye to Nikki. Then they will do the final FRC with Clare around afternoon. Nothing wrong with the time stamp. The wacky thing lies on the sequence how the FRC plays out.*speculations..speculations   

That has been done before.  The ex-football player did it.  I don't recall his name, but his F1 came before his F2, and he didn't propose either.  So I don't think that will happen.  I just think that Clare will perform when she gets rejected over Nikki. AND, I also think that Nikki will reject Juan because she'll think that he's not ready for a committed relationship.    Jmo.

2Observe, I really think this is plausible and I wouldn't be surprised if it happened.  It would jive with his edit all season - they could have been trying to show why his pick would turn him down.

[Aunties_Love]

She looks really neat here  Compare the the other pictures.

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Are there shoe prints going the opposite direction of Clare--toward the boat. Looks like high heels going toward the boat. Do they belong to Nikki? Would they leave on the boat too?

I believe you can see high-heels going both directions and flat shoe prints going back to the boat.  Those have sunk in more than Clare's do.  

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What I noticed is that Nikki's really sink into the sand compared to Clare's.

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[Aunties_Love]

I still think something wacky happens at FRC... like a contestant boomeranging for a return visit... either as The One or as the dumpee giving him a piece of her mind.

ITA   

Im on board with wacky FRC, JBF!!...i know you are still 100% Clare...sooo..what is your "conspiracy theory" about the time stamp??      Please spill the beans, Mister!!   #dyingtoknow  

also. isn't it weird, if Clare indeed broken hearted, why JPab didnt escort her away?   

Oh... I'm clueless. The time stamps are probably consistent with the episode #1 limo arrivals since hardly anybody on the message boards bother with them. However the FRC shots have definitely been "played with" in the past. A major game changer was Jillian's season, when there was a big gap between Kiptyn and Ed and no shots of Reid making his boomerang return inbetween. Posters on Fans Of Reality TV noted how muddy her dress got from Kip to Ed. There was ssssssoooooo much thread discussion that season that you just knew Fleiss & Co. noticed.

Yet... I do think Nikki appears after Clare in some curious way. Maybe... just to Be As Fair As Possible... Nikki could be F1.

Or... something else happens. Like she comes back for answers the same way Shannon did after being rejected by Alex in Bachelor 1. (That, however, was after fantasy dates. Trista was F2.) There are all kinds of scenarios here. One thing is for certain... when Juan promises we will be surprised and Chris Harrison insists the ending is "shocking", we can at least expect something resembling Des' boo-hoo over Brooks... or better. Jesse Palmer's season had F2 Tara accuse him of "being inappropriate".

I mean... if Andi can chew him out... and all of the ladies on WTA chew him out... I fully expect one more Great Performance.

I think that the majority of non-spoiled viewers think that Clare is F1, so imo, the viewing audience would be really shocked when she arrives first and gets rejected.  Clare's first 1st 1 on 1 reminded me was so over the top and involved the public.  That always spells F2 to me.

Are you talking about Clare's first date? If you are, I must be remembering it differently.

[Aunties_Love]

Are there shoe prints going the opposite direction of Clare--toward the boat. Looks like high heels going toward the boat. Do they belong to Nikki? Would they leave on the boat too?

If you look at the picture as Clare is getting off the boat, you've got to think that someone off camera helped steady her as she got on the dock.  it just looks to precarious, no railings or anything to grab on to, to deal with in a gown and heels without a hand.  I wouldn't put too much emphasis on footprints in the sand, JMO.

I doubt that others trying to steady Clare would also be wearing high heels. The other high heel marks in the sand are no where near the path that Clare took to get off the boat.

[JesseJames24]

Are there shoe prints going the opposite direction of Clare--toward the boat. Looks like high heels going toward the boat. Do they belong to Nikki? Would they leave on the boat too?

If you look at the picture as Clare is getting off the boat, you've got to think that someone off camera helped steady her as she got on the dock.  it just looks to precarious, no railings or anything to grab on to, to deal with in a gown and heels without a hand.  I wouldn't put too much emphasis on footprints in the sand, JMO.

I doubt that others trying to steady Clare would also be wearing high heels.  The other high heel marks in the sand are no where near the path that Clare took to get off the boat.

They do take pictures and reshoot things as well so she could of got on and off the ramp to reshoot or take pics. I don't really read too much into the foot prints. Just my opinion

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