*No Spoilers* The Bachelor Episode 10 WTA Discussions

see2love wrote:Juan Pablo's tweet.

Juan Pablo Galavis™ ‏@JuanPaGalavis  16h
Don't TRUST people who ENCHANTS you too MUCH before making a DEAL, later they will TURN their backs...

Seems he really is at odds with Fleiss and co.

I agree. That US story was a production plant if I've ever seen one. They have it in for JP. It's been so obvious through the editing. Now the question is why? I know he didn't play ball like they wanted but they really have it out for him and are taking every opening they can find to go after him.

nd4reality wrote:I think I asked this question but here goes again....

Has there been a precedent of EITHER the f1 or f2 hanging out at multiple locations with the rest of the cast during the WTA /  MTA tapings ?

I can't remember ever seeing anyone but the f3 person.

The sailboat pic posted upthread hasn't been identified has it?  I can't find the post now but the pic looked to me like it was in St Lucia. I don't think we have LCD descriptions yet have we?

Looking at the PI SCs is subjective. I don't see anything that would make me assume when they were filmed. I think most of the time they film things when they want something in particular to use. Usually it's later in the season and makes much more sense that these were done around the HTDs because the same setting applies to all of the f4. The odds of them bring back all 4 post season is slim IMO.

I think Chris Harrison were the ones who gave Clare the impetus to feel slighted on the whole ocean-gate incident.

On the night he spoke to her, she was hurt and confused, but by the time she had her date, she was all slighted like a woman scorned. And for them to let her have an interview that frankly did JP no good bt to throw him further under the bus is baffling. CH has told whoever cared to listen that JP put all the blame on Clare and slut shamed her and I dont think that was what JP did at all.

Something happened and he told Clare it was a mistake and shouldn't have happened. now they are showing previes and insinuating he had sex in the fantasy suite and it went bad.

All to show him in a bad light. I'd be well pissed off with them too.

albean99 wrote:

nd4reality wrote:I think I asked this question but here goes again....

Has there been a precedent of EITHER the f1 or f2 hanging out at multiple locations with the rest of the cast during the WTA /  MTA tapings ?

I can't remember ever seeing anyone but the f3 person.

The sailboat pic posted upthread hasn't been identified has it?  I can't find the post now but the pic looked to me like it was in St Lucia. I don't think we have LCD descriptions yet have we?

Looking at the PI SCs is subjective. I don't see anything that would make me assume when they were filmed. I think most of the time they film things when they want something in particular to use. Usually it's later in the season and makes much more sense that these were done around the HTDs because the same setting applies to all of the f4. The odds of them bring back all 4 post season is slim IMO.

Why do I agree with what you post this much lol. Agree as usual.

No the sailboat has not been sleuthed too much. However, Litta did point out that to get to the area on the hilltop where JP and Clare were kissing they would have to use a sailboat.

I believe she identified it to be an island area not the mainland. Litta - CMIIW. So therefore that sailboat was dismissed as a possible second LCD. It was possibly used in the LCD we already have identified i.e. Clare's. Others could weigh in on this.

nd4reality wrote:I think I asked this question but here goes again....

Has there been a precedent of EITHER the f1 or f2 hanging out at multiple locations with the rest of the cast during the WTA /  MTA tapings ?

I have never been aware..back n the day the pictures would tell us who the ;3 person was..

It is very odd to me..JMO

nd4reality wrote:
Why do I agree with what you post this much lol. Agree as usual.

No the sailboat has not been sleuthed. However, Litta did point out that to get to the area on the hilltop where JP and Clare were kissing they would have to use a sailboat.

I believe she identified it to be an island area not the mainland. Litta - CMIIW. So therefore that sailboat was dismissed as a possible second LCD. It was possibly used in the LCD we already have identified i.e. Clare's.

Could they not have used a helicopter?

Mirzam wrote:

nd4reality wrote:
Why do I agree with what you post this much lol. Agree as usual.

No the sailboat has not been sleuthed. However, Litta did point out that to get to the area on the hilltop where JP and Clare were kissing they would have to use a sailboat.

I believe she identified it to be an island area not the mainland. Litta - CMIIW. So therefore that sailboat was dismissed as a possible second LCD. It was possibly used in the LCD we already have identified i.e. Clare's.

Could they not have used a helicopter?

Yes they could.

But the sailboat is just not enough evidence that Nikki got an LCD to me.

nd4reality wrote:

Mirzam wrote:

nd4reality wrote:
Why do I agree with what you post this much lol. Agree as usual.

No the sailboat has not been sleuthed. However, Litta did point out that to get to the area on the hilltop where JP and Clare were kissing they would have to use a sailboat.

I believe she identified it to be an island area not the mainland. Litta - CMIIW. So therefore that sailboat was dismissed as a possible second LCD. It was possibly used in the LCD we already have identified i.e. Clare's.

Could they not have used a helicopter?

Yes they could.

But the sailboat is just not enough evidence that Nikki got an LCD to me.

True however I doubt they'd be sailing and then hiking. I think it's probably another LCD since we already know what they're doing for the FDs. We should know more by end of the FD episode.

albean99 wrote:


True however I doubt they'd be sailing and then hiking. I think it's probably another LCD since we already know what they're doing for the FDs. We should know more by end of the FD episode.

Unless they do the horribly annoying thing of only showing WTA previews.  

albean99 wrote:

nd4reality wrote:

Mirzam wrote:

nd4reality wrote:
Why do I agree with what you post this much lol. Agree as usual.

No the sailboat has not been sleuthed. However, Litta did point out that to get to the area on the hilltop where JP and Clare were kissing they would have to use a sailboat.

I believe she identified it to be an island area not the mainland. Litta - CMIIW. So therefore that sailboat was dismissed as a possible second LCD. It was possibly used in the LCD we already have identified i.e. Clare's.

Could they not have used a helicopter?

Yes they could.

But the sailboat is just not enough evidence that Nikki got an LCD to me.

True however I doubt they'd be sailing and then hiking. I think it's probably another LCD since we already know what they're doing for the FDs. We should know more by end of the FD episode.

I don't think that Island is all that big for a lengthy Hike. It looks pretty small to me from the pictures posted in the SC thread.

At best they would make it to the top of that hill in a few minutes and then picnic somewhere ? Thats why I think a sail to the island may be possible.

So waiting for more SCs !
Bets the boards will be exploding in the next couple of days.

nd4reality wrote:I think I asked this question but here goes again....

Has there been a precedent of EITHER the f1 or f2 hanging out at multiple locations with the rest of the cast during the WTA /  MTA tapings ?

No .. There is no precedence For F1 or F2 to be seen out and about with the WTA/MTA crew .. But if one is involved in some real shenanigans .. Like the Courtney fiasco .. Then I can see one of them being involved in the taping aspect only .. Then being whisked away

So I see that Andi is in the pic, so she is gone on Tuesday. I can't fathom why Clare is in LA with the girls. What are the possible scenarios on why there are back to back episodes this week?