Re: *No Spoilers* The Bachelor 18 Screencap discussions- thread #2

[Guest]

I have a question. People keep saying she might be hidden but I remember Catherine who was quite hidden during her season but I remember seeing her in the initial previews, the mid season previews so what exactly would be the reason to hide Nikki at this point?

[Guest]

^^^^^ Litta, you did an excellent comparison: I am absolutely convinced that the girl in the yellow shorts is Clare. But that doesn't mean that Nikki didn't get a LCD, it just means we haven't been shown any evidence of Nikki's LCD. We can speculate that her FD is rudely interrupted by her BFF Andi, and the both flip off JP and walk out hand in hand, but that is all it is, wild speculation.

Mirzam, I agree to the bolded...we don't know if Nikki did or didn't. That said, I'm going "all in" on the previews tell the story...and if I'm wrong, I'm wrong...thank god I haven't bet the house! I'll join julychild's chorus singing, "obladi, oblada..."

It's all good...

From the previews it appears that Andi confronts Juan Pablo on the day of the F3 RC. It looks like he is wearing a yellow shirt when she is talking to him, and that he is wearing the same yellow shirt at the RC also. This suggest to me that there is no FD interruption. Just saying.

I tend to agree with you. I kind of saw it that way after yesterday's FB preview. To me that point is somewhat irrelevant, whether Andi does or doesn't. What is key is that Nikki is upset a couple of times on the island and we have no LCD caps. So, the story being told is not good for Nikki, but maybe we'll have a shocker ending and I'll be eating  :eatingcrow: again. Btw, it was tasty the other day.  

When did you eat this crow and where was I?You know I've told you before and like many have said, you've done such a great job this season just like with RFL  

[USAGold]

I have a question. People keep saying she might be hidden but I remember Catherine who was quite hidden during her season but I remember seeing her in the initial previews, the mid season previews so what exactly would be the reason to hide Nikki at this point?

I agree & it reminds me of last year when many said they were hiding Brooks SCs !
I also see Nikki & Andi are very close & on Twitter you see many pics of them together so would Nikki be with someone who Andi had a run in with so to speak ? Just things that make you wonder. !!

[mprssdbyu]

Okay, now that I have seen the close up screen caps, I think it is Clare's LCD. I thought the SC where you can see the back of the girl (kissing)  looked just like Nikki's hair. There goes my possible theory as to why Clare was at WTA attending the functions with the girls.

ETA: Thanks Litta!

[Mirzam]

I agree & it reminds me of last year when many said they were hiding Brooks SCs !
I also see Nikki & Andi are very close & on Twitter you see many pics of them together so would Nikki be with someone who Andi had a run in with so to speak ?  Just things that make you wonder. !!

Andi is following Juan Pablo on Twitter.

[USAGold]

I agree & it reminds me of last year when many said they were hiding Brooks SCs !
I also see Nikki & Andi are very close & on Twitter you see many pics of them together so would Nikki be with someone who Andi had a run in with so to speak ?  Just things that make you wonder. !!

Andi is following Juan Pablo on Twitter.

Makes sense esp if she is the next Bachtte!

[Mirzam]

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I agree & it reminds me of last year when many said they were hiding Brooks SCs !

But they should that something not good went down between them. The only thing we have had is Nikki crying on a white sofa, in a room with similar decor to the SC of Clare on a bed with a white bed cover.

[Litta123]

Litta, just need to give you    before i call it a wrap personally.... I think we can always appreciate each other's POV..That is the beauty of this board... we are free to speculate, playing detective, come out with a silly conspiracy theory, throwing dumb Qs, compose the wrong conclusions, etc....LOL..  .No one should eat that untasty crow ever again.....LOL...( i am the only one here who has this MessLish yet proudly dropping a lot of edit "bombs"..  .I always prefer to eat yummy2 food, instead!!.. danceround :27: :27: ). Just so you know that i appreciate your wonderful work, take, analysis and speculation....  

Thanks, mura! I appreciate that very much.    back atcha!

And you know, whatever the outcome, I agree -- who needs to eat crow?! Let's have a little   and   , followed by lots of these  :27: :27: :27: and  :cottoncandy: 

See you on the flip-side of the ATFR!

[Guest]

whew! You guys have been busy! I got side tracked watching the new season of House of Cards. If anyone watched episode 1, PM me please. What a shocker!

I want to re-post this:

The three remaining bachelorettes join Juan Pablo on a trip to St. Lucia. One-on-one dates include an excursion on a luxury yacht, a visit to Latille Falls and a horseback riding adventure. Meanwhile, a contender pays a surprise visit, leading to an explosive situation.

I don't believe Clare or Andi interrupt Nikki's date. I think Clare makes a surprise visit to JP to warn him about Nikki and it goes badly thus her line.. "I just thought..." which I believe will be followed by "you should know" She is back peddling there.

Litta, I think the screen can travel to Miami for those PIs, but you had a point with Nikki's roots. I'll be looking at her roots tonight. Can you pull up the PIs that evertrue mentioned where Claire looks fuller in the white sweater please? I'm still on the Nikki bus, so it looks like one of us will be eating crow. I'm a bit nervous about a couple of PIs, but not the missing LCD caps. I think we may have an LCD cap for Nikki. In the hotel room with the white dress. If not that, the red and white boat. Still think Elan was on it, so not a flyover.

Why is Clare at the WTA??! I thought CH told us the F2.

[Litta123]

When did you eat this crow and where was I?You know I've told you before and like many have said, you've done such a great job this season just like with RFL  

You know, lex, I'd tell you, but then I'd have to kill you...

It was with regards to a Clare PI cap I was insisting was in St Lucia, but came to accept it was taken in NZ...and thank you!  

[Mirzam]

I have a couple of questions about the 'Fatty' Clare PIs. Were they shown during the NZ episode, and were they only referring to the ocean incident? Was Clare the only one that had this background for a PI or did JP have one also?

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[JBF]

^^^^^ Litta, you did an excellent comparison: I am absolutely convinced that the girl in the yellow shorts is Clare. But that doesn't mean that Nikki didn't get a LCD, it just means we haven't been shown any evidence of Nikki's LCD. We can speculate that her FD is rudely interrupted by her BFF Andi, and the both flip off JP and walk out hand in hand, but that is all it is, wild speculation.

Mirzam, I agree to the bolded...we don't know if Nikki did or didn't. That said, I'm going "all in" on the previews tell the story...and if I'm wrong, I'm wrong...thank god I haven't bet the house! I'll join julychild's chorus singing, "obladi, oblada..."

It's all good...

... and it isn't that all of us are simply assuming Nikki doesn't get an LCD. I, of course, am speculating that she doesn't because I feel we should have had one "stick out" by now. Even Drew's LCD was floating in the promos by this stage, just not any evening portion of it. Believe me, some of us have twied and twied to make her fit the F1 role. I actually thought she was F1 when watching the first episode (if you read my old posts), then shifted to Clare after RE-watching episode #2 because there was TOO much focus on her and Juan together for comfort. Sometimes you can't go with "she's over-exposed, therefore she can't be the one" logic when you sense there is a reason she is over-exposed. Then all of these other "thangs" have come up since then that have made it harder and harder for me to see Nikki, Andi, Renee or anybody else fit the F1 role... regardless whether or not I enjoy watching Juan interact with them over Clare.

I also seriously doubt Juan is single post-show.

Our motto this season is that we are trying To Be As Fair As Possible. Thanks Juan.

Regarding all of Tuesday's drama, these are the jigsaw puzzle pieces we have... and more can be added.
1.) The second promo says fantasy suitesssssss are nightmaresssssss, so more than one is impacted.
2.) The wording Of Andi ("Waking up this morning, I could not wait to get out of the fantasy suite") can imply two different things...
-she is eager to leave the suite in the morning after something happens.
-she is eager to get out of going to it on the morning of her actual date.
3.) We see Juan kissing both Clare and Andi in evening settings, although we can't confirm that Andi's is necessarily in a suite. Probably can't confirm Clare's is 100% either.
4.) Andi is seen with yellow shirt Juan. Yellow shirt Juan holds a rose. Therefore we can GUESS that Andi attends a rose ceremony.
5.) No shots of Clare or Nikki at a rose ceremony, but we know Clare makes it the next round thanks to LCD footage.
6.) Neither Nikki nor Andi appear to make LCD stage, BUT... yes, the editors could simply be withholding screencaps and we will see them tonight.
7.) Nikki is sitting on a couch that could be a suite and, yes, that could be something-something. Unfortunately, the Chris Harrison line "will shock America" doesn't sound all that favorable.
8.) Both Nikki and Andi... and Renee too... are crying. Clare isn't... although some here think she is. She just has her head down and looks "concerned" when saying "I thought that..." Last season, Brooks and Zak were crying, while Chris simply looked "concerned" at a rose ceremony and was rubbing his eyes in a limo. Drew simply looked mad... but then was shown crying in a later promo.
9.) Andi tells Juan "There's nothing for me to do at this point." Juan says "If you felt that way, I'm sorry." Andi then says in VO: "I can't hide this feeling."
10.) Later Juan says in the same yellow shirt (may or may not be talking to Andi): "There's nothing I can do."
11.) Andi's line from episode #2 regarding Victoria "there's disaster all over it" (paraphrasing) comes from a PI session shot in a fantasy suite locale and is repeated in the promos.
12.) For some bizarre reason, there was a TON of Nikki commentary with all of the Victoria drama in episode #2. Why? Maybe NOTHING Nikki does resembles Victoria at all. Yet it still bothers me for some reason. Come to think of it, all three except Clare are seen here. [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]
13.) Regarding the Clare/Juan relationship, these are the points of view by these two ladies:
Andi: I definitely think Juan Pablo gravitates towards Clare. It doesn't feel good to say that, but it's the truth!
Nikki: Clare comes back from her 1 on 1 time from Juan Pablo and they are not, like, hand and hand, arm and arm. I feel, like, there's a little bit of tension between them. I have no idea what's going on. / We got a very sombre vibe from him. Something bad is happening.
In other words... Nikki is still "in the dark" regarding what others saw in Vietnam. As she says, Clare is after "territory" that might not be hers.
14.) Both Andi and Niki have called Clare "crazy"... not that we have seen any of these three ladies ACT "crazy" yet. Certainly nobody has behaved like Victoria yet either... and may not!!! Again.. I just feel... bothered... by so much Nikki (and more Andi too) during that incident in episode #2 and no Clare involved. Also the word "drunk" over Renee of all people!
15.) On the facebook promo, Chris Harrison's wording follows accordingly: "something" (Nikki) "obviously" (Andi) "happened" (Clare), followed by Renee getting no words and "That is important that you hear from Juan Pablo" (seen crying)
16.) In the promo put on this site's facebook, Andi's "offensive" and "smack him across the face" voice-bytes are edited over footage of her buddy. It sounds like Andi is angry with Juan about something concerning her.
17.) Renee's face is shown over Chris Harrison's "Monday and Tuesday" suggesting the 50/50 chance that she will pay a visit to St Lucia.

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