Re: *No Spoilers* The Bachelor 18 Screencap discussions- thread #2

[JBF]

My only problem with those PI sessions discussed is her hair. It matches TOO perfectly with Juan scenes. Usually you see more variation.

Then again, earlier I was speculating that the whole evening portion of the date was shot in California. Heck, her entire NZ date could easily have been shot in the US. Did you see any landmarks?

From the Hilton sight...

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Same as Juan's room...

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You know you won't get much argument out of me. You always come around with solid evidence.

Really the ONLY problem for me is Clare's hair in those PIs. Being a hair stylist, she may actually achieve a match that is THAT perfect in PI sessions done weeks after a date. Who knows?

Oh... it is obvious that some of these PIs were done post-show. I recall an interview with Ryan Sutter back in 2003 stating that he made a couple trips to LA in late 2002 for additional "work". These, of course, were also excuses to secretly visit Trista. Back in those days, The Big Fib was that the lead and F1 did not see each other before ATFR when Mister Harrison reunited them. They stopped fibbing seasons ago, which is where the term "safe house" got started.

I also think some contestants only "act" heartbroken on screen (or get over the actual feelings within days) and have no problem shooting PI sessions post-show. The ones who only give "in the moment" PI sessions are probably the ones most emotionally invested... for example, Chris B. seamed genuinely upset about Emily dumping him, but Sean Lowe wasn't really. Renee, Andi, Nikki and Clare all seem happy post-show, so all of the "drama" is in the past... and if they "won" or "lost" The Guy, it no longer matters. In addition, these people can also IMPROVE their edits with lines like "I will always be Clare"... or Nikki adding funny jokes to her criticisms so we laugh rather than simply hate her as Ms. Negative.

[nd4reality]

Arie on Emilys season was very cut up about his dismissal. Kelly Jo on Bobs season, Susan on Travis' season and Molly on Jasons season - still in love with the lead. There are others. Just because Sean was "fine" at his MTA (I have my own theories about Sean and his demeanor) doesn't mean the rejected contestants are in a position to go film ITMs after the fact shortly after dismissals.

[nd4reality]

I am always amazed how much work you guys do with sleuthing the SCs.  However, in my opinion it is a giant leap to say Clare is the F1 based on her hair looking slightly different.  Clearly, in that video, she is wearing the same shirt, necklace, and earrings as she was with her one on one with JP.  The other PI of her in the white tank top is after she put on her comfy clothes.  Just because we don't recognize the background doesn't automatically mean it was filmed post show.

I just don't see anything solid to indicate Clare is the F1.

I think part of the point is that she is VERY tanned in the ITM, locale that we can't locate and bracelet that Juan gave her.  All of that in one is the reasons why...IMO

 
And how do we know that Juan gave her a bracelet?  I missed that info somewhere.

I don't know if anyone answered the question yet but JulyChild saw that JP gave both Clare and Renee these bracelets at the HTD from BTS pictures released.

However, I still don't get how it is proven that ITM was post filming and not while they were in Miami for the HTD RC or anytime prior to the FRC (also possible).

[umngirl]

Arie on Emilys season was very cut up about his dismissal. Kelly Jo on Bobs season, Susan on Travis' season and Molly on Jasons season - still in love with the lead. There are others. Just because Sean was "fine" at his MTA (I have my own theories about Sean and his demeanor) doesn't mean the rejected contestants are in a position to go film ITMs after the fact shortly after dismissals.

Sean was "fine" at the MTA because it was pretty much a done deal he was the next Bachelor. He also was smart enough to realize it wasn't meant to be so he got over whatever feelings of heartbreak he had. I mean, he even called Emily right after the season finished taping because he wanted to talk to her and get closure.

Truthfully, y'all are better at decoding the PIs and when they are filmed and all that jazz. I think the F4 all came back to film filler PIs at some point after the season was over so the storyline can be completed. And honestly, I have my instincts that these girls aren't all that interested in JuanPa, other than maybe Clare, and none will be that heartbroken if they aren't picked.

[Hotmomma]

We must remember that Clare lives in Ca..and therefore she could have been there while the other HTD we being filmed..and could have do some " fill-ins"..

I personally don't take those PI's as the smoking gun she is F1..JMO!

[JBF]

Arie on Emilys season was very cut up about his dismissal. Kelly Jo on Bobs season, Susan on Travis' season and Molly on Jasons season - still in love with the lead. There are others. Just because Sean was "fine" at his MTA (I have my own theories about Sean and his demeanor) doesn't mean the rejected contestants are in a position to go film ITMs after the fact shortly after dismissals.

... and it is not likely "shortly after dismissals" either. Obviously I am not saying all of these dumpees are, just possibly a select few. Or... maybe just F1 is doing them. Ashley's season is the one I probably analyzed the most and there are no shots of Ben F. that look like they were post-show. Just Ashley and JP.

[nd4reality]

Arie on Emilys season was very cut up about his dismissal. Kelly Jo on Bobs season, Susan on Travis' season and Molly on Jasons season - still in love with the lead. There are others. Just because Sean was "fine" at his MTA (I have my own theories about Sean and his demeanor) doesn't mean the rejected contestants are in a position to go film ITMs after the fact shortly after dismissals.

... and it is not likely "shortly after dismissals" either. Obviously I am not saying all of these dumpees are, just possibly a select few. Or... maybe just F1 is doing them. Ashley's season is the one I probably analyzed the most and there are no shots of Ben F. that look like they were post-show. Just Ashley and JP.

I agree with this.

F1 and the lead.

[mprssdbyu]

I have been reading this thread and maybe I missed it. But couldn't they be doing PIS in the hotel room before F4 ceremony while they have nothing to do but wait for JP to finish home town dates? We know from past seasons, they carry that darn screen behind them with them to do PIS.

[nd4reality]

I have been reading this thread and maybe I missed it. But couldn't they be doing PIS in the hotel room before F4 ceremony while they have nothing to do but wait for JP to finish home town dates? We know from past seasons, they carry that darn screen behind them with them to do PIS.

That was what I have been saying   .

BTW welcome back to posting   

[Guest]

I have been reading this thread and maybe I missed it. But couldn't they be doing PIS in the hotel room before F4 ceremony while they have nothing to do but wait for JP to finish home town dates? We know from past seasons, they carry that darn screen behind them with them to do PIS.

That was what I have been saying   .

BTW welcome back to posting   

That's also what I think...
Clare living in Sacramento could have taped the PI in LA after her HTD and before the RC...
Some posters think there was no time but I don't remember if her date was filmed 1st or last.
The other possibility would be taping in Miami at the time of the RC, with the screen being brought there.

Another thing, if this bracelet was so special, why would have it also been offered to Renee ?

[iamreal2u]

Why is she crying here

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Clare looks very suggestive here….umm

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[iamreal2u]

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