Re: *No Spoilers* The Bachelor 18 Screencap discussions- thread #2

[Aunties_Love]

The episode description makes it seem as if Nikki HTD goes down well, maybe the obstacle will be a conversation on moving to Miami or not? I can't really say who said what it that promo but I do believe that the Clare and Nikki crying scenes- in the hotel- happens in St. Lucia and most likely LCD. It is still odd that we haven't seen Nikki on a LCD or maybe it's hidden in the previews somewhere and we are just missing it. A leg, shadow, hair?

Like you, I also still feel that the promo points to Clare as F1. Not because of the Nikki crying outside scene, I think that will turn out to be the F3 RC. Could the CC people have made a mistake?

I agree too. I do think that Clare could be the F1.

[JBF]

What makes me laugh about all of the drama, is that Andi's "All of it put together was just a disaster" covers a shot of Juan with the "yeah, whatever" look on his face as if he really doesn't care any more. Then we see him walk on the beach in his maybe-FRC suit.

PS: I forgot add...

Harrison: What happens in the fantasy suite... / Juan in his orange on a bed with green top (Nothing happens. Juan is all by himself on an empty bed.)
Harrison: ... doesn't stay in the fantasy suite. / Andi walking in black dress (Andi = "what happens"... and she isn't staying there, but walking elsewhere.)

[Litta123]

I believe all of the previews shown last night happened up through but not beyond the F3 rose ceremony.  No LCD screen caps in there.  Just my belief that they limited the caps to the 2-night event.

We've been operating with the premise that this cap is Clare's LCD...which shows up in last night's preview as the third cap below. Our reasoning has been because Clare's outfit is different on the yacht. Do you think our premise is wrong? I'm pretty sure I've figured out the location of this date as well. I can look it up for you if you want...don't remember off the top of my head. It would be a really long day if she does this and goes yachting in the same date. Also, this wasn't in the episode description. I respect your opinion, just thought I'd throw in my perspective.

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[JBF]

"Finally time for my love story" is heard over that cap. So I guess "stuff" impacts it at hometown and fantasy date time, but by LCD time... the coast is clear? I mean... we had to remove Brooks and Drew off the show just to get Des to stop blubbering on screen.

We still don't know if Nikki gets a LCD or not, do we? I mean.. c'mon! I should be As Fair As Possible and look for as many possibilities that she can still be F1 too. Her crying scene might be about something unrelated to this show, after all. Then again... Brooks was sobbing in that same promo spot last season.

[Hotmomma]

Are we sure that is Clare in those caps?..could it be Nikki?

[Mirzam]

Are we sure that is Clare in those caps?..could it be Nikki?

The ones posted above? Definitely Clare.

[julychild]

Wow, JBF, thanks for putting in the time to do all that. I made a few corrections in red. I can get you screen cap verifications if you need/want them to confirm.

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Best to break this up voice-byte by voice-byte and head shot by head shot.

Harrison: Next week on The Bachelor / Clare & Juan jumping from yacht
Harrison: It's a special two day Bachelor event / Andi (?) & Juan under another freakin' waterfall. At least they are staying clean.
Harrison: ... you cannot miss / Andi & Juan greeting at hometown (the combo of Harrison's line with Andi suggests SHE is the primary reason you should watch)
Clare hugging Juan: "I'm so excited you're here"
Nikki VO: This is real.../ Juan and Renee walking in surf.
Nikki VO: This could be the rest of my life / Nikki and Juan on hometown (Yeah... it could be)
Harrison: Two Episodes
Clare VO: Finally time for my love story / faraway shot of Juan and Clare in field
Harrison: Two Nights
Juan to Clare: This is freakin' beautiful
Nikki VO: It feels extremely right / aerial, followed by Nikki and Juan on horses
Harrison: Double the romance / recycled shot from Miami of Juan and Renee (Peculiar choice of words here.)
Renee to Juan: I've never felt this way before about anyone
Clare VO: I'm just, like, loving... / two silhouettes in the water Juan & Renee
Clare shown looking up then looking at Juan (as if correcting herself): ... falling in love with you / followed by Juan kissing her
Harrison: And double the drama / Andi teaching Juan gun-shooting (Andi = drama. Bullets on the ground)
Harrison: Don't miss Monday night when... / Nikki hugging the family
Harrison: hometowns take a dramatic turn / Juan meeting Andi's father (identified in  later clip) (Andi's pop = drama)
Juan speaking: Will you accept me and my daughter with your family?
Andi's dad: It doesn't matter.
Andi VO: I saw the disapproval in my dad's face / Andi hugs an unreceptive Juan, followed by Dad nodding
Andi's Dad: The person that is going to be good enough for my daughter is going to come to me and say there is no one else in the world for me. (This fits Andi's whole storyline of her calling out Juan's connections with other contestants.)
Andi VO: This could really be the final blow / Juan reacting (Could be, but it looks like another blow occurs later in Fantasy Land.)
Clare's sister to her: To give a blessing, I don't believe we're there yet.
Clare: You know how I feel.
Sister back: I don't care.
Clare VO: This may impact my relationship with Juan Pablo... / more shots of Clare, walking with Juan, sister holding Molly (oops! wrong pooch)
Clare VO: ... that will absolutely break my heart. / Clare and Juan still looking gooey at the table despite the ominous voice-over. (Last three words over Juan. Uh oh.)
Clare speaking: Why are you doing this?
Sister: I am not going to let you manipulate mom.
Crying Clare to sis: I just want you guys to please trust.
Sis with hand up: No.
Clare sobbing with mom: I didn't expect for this to happen, y'know? (Here we go again... another Ashley/Chrystie and Des/Nate situation.)
Harrison: And THEN... (pound! pound!)... on Tuesday night / A bed (but not Sean and Catherine's this time).
Andi VO: Waking up this morning, I could not wait to get out of the fantasy suite. / Andi shown in profile
Harrison: What happens in the fantasy suite... / Juan in his orange on a bed with green top
Harrison: ... doesn't stay in the fantasy suite. / Andi walking in black dress
Andi in white to yellow-shirted Juan: There's nothing for me to do at this point. (Ugh! That color again. Yellow shirt = Andi/Nikki/Renee dates, yellow shorts = Clare)
Juan to Andi: If you felt that way, I'm sorry.
Andi VO: I can't hide this feeling. / Andi looking down nodding "no",
Juan in orange looking down at his footsies in pool... didn't see any fishies there.
Harrison: What went horribly wrong? / Andi tearful
Clare (semi-smiling): I want to talk to you / blue shirted Juan reacting with a worried (?!) look
Harrison: We'll find out. / Renee in hotel room with white shirt "OMG"
Andi mumbled talk: All of it put together was just a disaster.  / Juan just sitting there looking, Juan walking on beach with a suit on (Exact same suit as the screencap above)
Harrison VO: On the two day Bachelor event.. / Clare with head down
Harrison VO: ...that will shock America / Nikki crying (America... and Nikki equally, apparently.)
Clare (continuing from above): I just thought...
Harrison: Next Monday and Tuesday / Renee with tears (Even Renee is shocked and tearful... like America.)
Juan in his yellow again (Andi scene): There's nothing I can do.
Nikki crying as if reacting to Juan's comment. (Poor girl sounded so happy at the beginning of this.)
Fade-out with Harrison: It's the Bachelor like you've never seen before.

That can't be Renee walking with JP in the surf. When did that happen? Plus, I think the two people in the water are JP and Andi from the Miami special private time.

[Mirzam]

That can't be Renee walking with JP in the surf. When did that happen? Plus, I think the two people in the water are JP and Andi from the Miami special private time.

Hometown date, she lives in Sarasota FL.

[Litta123]

From last night's preview:

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"Finally time for my love story" is heard over that cap. So I guess "stuff" impacts it at hometown and fantasy date time, but by LCD time... the coast is clear? I mean... we had to remove Brooks and Drew off the show just to get Des to stop blubbering on screen.

We still don't know if Nikki gets a LCD or not, do we? I mean.. c'mon! I should be As Fair As Possible and look for as many possibilities that she can still be F1 too. Her crying scene might be about something unrelated to this show, after all. Then again... Brooks was sobbing in that same promo spot last season.

JBF, I have pretty much gone through the preview frame by frame...I've got nothing.

Are we sure that is Clare in those caps?..could it be Nikki?

We've have debated this in the past a couple of different times, but each time the consensus comes out to Clare. I can direct you our discussions specifically if you would like. In general, they are in the screen cap thread #1.

[Mirzam]

Just because there are no SCs that we can identify of Nikki's LCD, we do know from Cary Fetman's (Bach stylist) article that two girls show up at the FRC. So I assume they are keeping them back from us.

[Litta123]

That can't be Renee walking with JP in the surf. When did that happen? Plus, I think the two people in the water are JP and Andi from the Miami special private time.

Hometown date, she lives in Sarasota FL.

jc, give me a little bit and I will pull together the caps. I initially had your thought, but the closer I looked at the profile, it looked like Renee. Mirzam is right...it fits her HTD.

[julychild]

That can't be Renee walking with JP in the surf. When did that happen? Plus, I think the two people in the water are JP and Andi from the Miami special private time.

Hometown date, she lives in Sarasota FL.

I know she lives in Sarasota, lucky girl, but they went to Ben's game for her HTD:

"Juan Pablo’s emotional tour continues in Sarasota, Florida, as he meets up with single mom Renee, who has been desperate to be reunited with her eight-year-old son, Ben. Juan Pablo witnesses the tearful reunion and is introduced to Renee’s pride and joy. As Juan Pablo watches Ben play in a Little League game, he ponders whether he can picture himself as the boy’s stepfather. After he meets her parents, Renee still hesitates to tell him of her strong feelings for him. Will that indecisiveness cost her a rose?"

They've been very accurate with the episode descriptions, and haven't left anything out, so far.

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