Desiree & Chris Siegfried - Tweets/Facebook Updates - Discussion #3

murasaki1393 wrote:

Maggenzm wrote:

murasaki1393 wrote:

bleuberry wrote:Couldn't agree more with Des on this part:

It was really hard to watch Juan give Nikki the final rose without telling her anything that would indicate stronger feelings for her. I don’t feel that he should be forced to say that he loves her if he doesn’t feel it because then that would definitely feel and be insincere, but at the same time more romantic or loving words weren’t expressed before she accepted the rose and for that I was a bit disappointed. It could be that it is difficult for him to articulate his feelings since the English words may not come to him but even then I’m not sure. She deserved to hear more than what he gave her regardless of if it was in English or in Spanish.

That part of the finale was so quick, as if JP was rushing through it. You would think he would've prepared (with help if needed) something sweet to say to Nikki. Tell her why he wasn't proposing, but also tell her why he wants her in his life in better terms. It just seemed blunt and over with quickly.

It's hard to compare a man who isn't quite there yet, to the words Chris said to Des last year, but they were perfection.  :pinkaw: 

glad to know im not the only one who felt that way. I mean, of course no one can top Chris in that department   . but at least, from JPab i expected something sweet and touching. despite he cant say ILY yet..for example, what he loves about Nikki--her smiles, her smells, her passion, anything...and yes...IDC if he said it in Spanish...as long as we can felt it with our heart. (UNLESS they cut that part out, as their pay back to JPab). The whole situation is too confusing and idisappointing.
PS : He cant hide behind the excuse for being a Latino guy, so he has the right to be an emotion-less, unsensitive lead ever. We have had a true gentleman Latino hottie dimples before, Roberto, with his heart-touching proposal to Ali.     

Yes, it was hard to watch, but when you see the video" adventure in loving you" from the song at LDC" you re the one for me" he is singing to her, so charming! He could have sang the words to her, but he looked emptied to me. What happened to that man? the charming that so many loved in the beginning. May be it is the camera, or may be the pressure got to him so he shut down. Listening to Jason and Molly has been eye openner. Based on their last podcast, the pressure on the bach last week is intense.

Not trying to excuse his behavior which was real bad, but what I noticed, when JuanP is pressured, he shuts down. And you could see that on the LCD with both ladies and the FRC, He had no life left in him at the FRC, this was not the same man we saw in the beginning. Actually, I noticed the change after Sharleen and the incident with Andi, I think it affected him more than we can see.
Coming from a different culture point of view, I can see him wondering if an american women is the way to go for him because of the culture differences, will this work?. And Nikki was right, he seamed very guarded, not allowing himself to fall completely for the one he loved.
I think he spends most of his time with his own people based on his English, so this must have been a culture shock to him like it is for a lot my family. I think Nikki will give him BALANCE also help him with the English language and culture. JMO

T4share, Maggen...those are the reasons why im sticking to team Carla...LOL..
one thing i notice, as alluded in JAM podcast too....he doesnt like to be call out....i think its somehow related to his later decision to not pick Clare, as she confronted him at LCD. and yes, i think Andi FS's gate has drained him as well (another call out).
i truly hope Nikki could stay true to herself, listen to her heart and make rational decision for herself. I dont have high hopes knowing that they still do long-distance relationship. Note that most of successful couple moving in together/ at least in the same city immediately : Trista, Ash, Molly, Cat, Des.
But still wishing them the best.

Maggenzm wrote:

murasaki1393 wrote:

Maggenzm wrote:

murasaki1393 wrote:

bleuberry wrote:Couldn't agree more with Des on this part:

It was really hard to watch Juan give Nikki the final rose without telling her anything that would indicate stronger feelings for her. I don’t feel that he should be forced to say that he loves her if he doesn’t feel it because then that would definitely feel and be insincere, but at the same time more romantic or loving words weren’t expressed before she accepted the rose and for that I was a bit disappointed. It could be that it is difficult for him to articulate his feelings since the English words may not come to him but even then I’m not sure. She deserved to hear more than what he gave her regardless of if it was in English or in Spanish.

That part of the finale was so quick, as if JP was rushing through it. You would think he would've prepared (with help if needed) something sweet to say to Nikki. Tell her why he wasn't proposing, but also tell her why he wants her in his life in better terms. It just seemed blunt and over with quickly.

It's hard to compare a man who isn't quite there yet, to the words Chris said to Des last year, but they were perfection.  :pinkaw: 

glad to know im not the only one who felt that way. I mean, of course no one can top Chris in that department   . but at least, from JPab i expected something sweet and touching. despite he cant say ILY yet..for example, what he loves about Nikki--her smiles, her smells, her passion, anything...and yes...IDC if he said it in Spanish...as long as we can felt it with our heart. (UNLESS they cut that part out, as their pay back to JPab). The whole situation is too confusing and idisappointing.
PS : He cant hide behind the excuse for being a Latino guy, so he has the right to be an emotion-less, unsensitive lead ever. We have had a true gentleman Latino hottie dimples before, Roberto, with his heart-touching proposal to Ali.     

Yes, it was hard to watch, but when you see the video" adventure in loving you" from the song at LDC" you re the one for me" he is singing to her, so charming! He could have sang the words to her, but he looked emptied to me. What happened to that man? the charming that so many loved in the beginning. May be it is the camera, or may be the pressure got to him so he shut down. Listening to Jason and Molly has been eye openner. Based on their last podcast, the pressure on the bach last week is intense.

Not trying to excuse his behavior which was real bad, but what I noticed, when JuanP is pressured, he shuts down. And you could see that on the LCD with both ladies and the FRC, He had no life left in him at the FRC, this was not the same man we saw in the beginning. Actually, I noticed the change after Sharleen and the incident with Andi, I think it affected him more than we can see.
Coming from a different culture point of view, I can see him wondering if an american women is the way to go for him because of the culture differences, will this work?. And Nikki was right, he seamed very guarded, not allowing himself to fall completely for the one he loved.
I think he spends most of his time with his own people based on his English, so this must have been a culture shock to him like it is for a lot my family. I think Nikki will give him BALANCE also help him with the English language and culture. JMO

T4share, Maggen...those are the reasons why im sticking to team Carla...LOL..
one thing i notice, as alluded in JAM podcast too....he doesnt like to be call out....i think its somehow related to his later decision to not pick Clare, as she confronted him at LCD. and yes, i think Andi FS's gate has drained him as well (another call out).
i truly hope Nikki could stay true to herself, listen to her heart and make rational decision for herself. I dont have high hopes knowing that they still do long-distance relationship. Note that most of successful couple moving in together/ at least in the same city immediately : Trista, Ash, Molly, Cat, Des.
But still wishing them the best.

ITA except the bolded (you probably meant Clare) LOL, Nobody knows what their plans are at this moment cus he is choosing to make it private. Based on our successful couple experiences, moving together seam to be the  only way it works. So, wishing them the best and hoping it work out for them.

murasaki1393 wrote:

Maggenzm wrote:

murasaki1393 wrote:

Maggenzm wrote:

murasaki1393 wrote:

bleuberry wrote:Couldn't agree more with Des on this part:

It was really hard to watch Juan give Nikki the final rose without telling her anything that would indicate stronger feelings for her. I don’t feel that he should be forced to say that he loves her if he doesn’t feel it because then that would definitely feel and be insincere, but at the same time more romantic or loving words weren’t expressed before she accepted the rose and for that I was a bit disappointed. It could be that it is difficult for him to articulate his feelings since the English words may not come to him but even then I’m not sure. She deserved to hear more than what he gave her regardless of if it was in English or in Spanish.

That part of the finale was so quick, as if JP was rushing through it. You would think he would've prepared (with help if needed) something sweet to say to Nikki. Tell her why he wasn't proposing, but also tell her why he wants her in his life in better terms. It just seemed blunt and over with quickly.

It's hard to compare a man who isn't quite there yet, to the words Chris said to Des last year, but they were perfection.  :pinkaw: 

glad to know im not the only one who felt that way. I mean, of course no one can top Chris in that department   . but at least, from JPab i expected something sweet and touching. despite he cant say ILY yet..for example, what he loves about Nikki--her smiles, her smells, her passion, anything...and yes...IDC if he said it in Spanish...as long as we can felt it with our heart. (UNLESS they cut that part out, as their pay back to JPab). The whole situation is too confusing and idisappointing.
PS : He cant hide behind the excuse for being a Latino guy, so he has the right to be an emotion-less, unsensitive lead ever. We have had a true gentleman Latino hottie dimples before, Roberto, with his heart-touching proposal to Ali.     

Yes, it was hard to watch, but when you see the video" adventure in loving you" from the song at LDC" you re the one for me" he is singing to her, so charming! He could have sang the words to her, but he looked emptied to me. What happened to that man? the charming that so many loved in the beginning. May be it is the camera, or may be the pressure got to him so he shut down. Listening to Jason and Molly has been eye openner. Based on their last podcast, the pressure on the bach last week is intense.

Not trying to excuse his behavior which was real bad, but what I noticed, when JuanP is pressured, he shuts down. And you could see that on the LCD with both ladies and the FRC, He had no life left in him at the FRC, this was not the same man we saw in the beginning. Actually, I noticed the change after Sharleen and the incident with Andi, I think it affected him more than we can see.
Coming from a different culture point of view, I can see him wondering if an american women is the way to go for him because of the culture differences, will this work?. And Nikki was right, he seamed very guarded, not allowing himself to fall completely for the one he loved.
I think he spends most of his time with his own people based on his English, so this must have been a culture shock to him like it is for a lot my family. I think Nikki will give him BALANCE also help him with the English language and culture. JMO

T4share, Maggen...those are the reasons why im sticking to team Carla...LOL..
one thing i notice, as alluded in JAM podcast too....he doesnt like to be call out....i think its somehow related to his later decision to not pick Clare, as she confronted him at LCD. and yes, i think Andi FS's gate has drained him as well (another call out).
i truly hope Nikki could stay true to herself, listen to her heart and make rational decision for herself. I dont have high hopes knowing that they still do long-distance relationship. Note that most of successful couple moving in together/ at least in the same city immediately : Trista, Ash, Molly, Cat, Des.
But still wishing them the best.

ITA except the bolded (you probably meant Clare) LOL, Nobody knows what their plans are at this moment cus he is choosing to make it private. Based on our successful couple experiences, moving together seam to be the  only way it works. So, wishing them the best and hoping it work out for them.

NO..i am team Carla---the baby mama-- all season long   . It just happened in the sleuthing works, and detective playing, i concluded Clare as the F1, more than Nikki. I have no fav this season. All of the girls is not my type of girl..LOL..except maybe Renee and Chelsie who came close..
I still think he better ends up with Carla for some reasons   

DesHartsock Haha. @siegfria Love you!

siegfriea no no no! I love YOU!

bleuberry wrote:Des and Anna are too cute. (In response to Anna's comments under the umbrella pic_

DesHartsock Haha. @siegfria Love you!

siegfriea no no no! I love YOU!

bleuberry wrote:Des and Anna are too cute. (In response to Anna's comments under the umbrella pic_

DesHartsock Haha. @siegfria Love you!

siegfriea no no no! I love YOU!

bleuberry wrote:AWWWW, check out Des' comment on the umbrella pic (from fb)



  

MMA50 wrote:

bleuberry wrote:Des and Anna are too cute. (In response to Anna's comments under the umbrella pic_

DesHartsock Haha. @siegfria Love you!

siegfriea no no no! I love YOU!

I am enjoying the sisterly love between the two ladies.  Now, if Erin and Nate's fiancé gets onboard, then that would be a beautiful relationship between Des and the new family of women in her life. So far, so good!

bleuberry wrote:AWWWW, check out Des' comment on the umbrella pic (from fb)



  

Maggenzm wrote:

Don't we love hearing it from her about how great our prince is even though we already know it?

Maggenzm wrote:

Don't we love hearing it from her about how great our prince is even though we already know it?