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I loved getting to meet @deshartsock & @chrisrsiegfried last night!! They have been so sweet and fun to work with so it was great to finally meet them. #thebachelor
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Disappointed though; it would have been nice to see them.
Just give me something that looks like a real love story to help me escape into my own version of fantasy for a while. And maybe against the odds one of those stories will actually survive real life. Nothing wrong with a little hope, right?
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Not sure anyone wants to see this or not. Mods feel free to move it accordingly. This is the latest from RS
Lets get to a bunch of questions surrounding last’s finale and ATFR, starting with the three you are most interested in:
1) What did Juan Pablo say to Clare in the helicopter?
I’m actually surprised at how many people are asking this. Did you not watch the show? It was basically re-iterated twice. Once in general, and then later the exact wording. When they got in the suite and Clare confronted him, she mentioned how he said he loved being physical with her. Then after he dumped her, her exact quote was, “Don’t say you love f***ing me.” Even WetPaint ran that story before the show aired last night, getting confirmation from a “source.” Well, it’s obvious that source is one of the girls from the show that Clare told it to, but that’s neither here nor there. The point is all you had to do was listen to what Clare said and she told everyone after she got dumped the exact specifics. Not sure why when they brought it up on the ATFR that Clare didn’t say it again, but hey, it’s not like she’s gonna go dropping the f-bomb on live television so I can see why she avoided it.
2) What surprise was Chris Harrison promoting all episode that never happened?
It’s no secret after watching last night that Juan Pablo was over the show, and the show was pretty much over him. From his tweets, from Chris Harrison constantly bad mouthing him to the media this season, to the numerous reports the producers hated him, it was obvious this relationship went sour. If you want to commend Juan Pablo for anything, it’s how he basically turned the tables on production last night. The surprise Chris was referring to was they were expecting a proposal last night because that’s what Juan Pablo told them he was going to do. E! Online ran a story today essentially saying the same thing. But he never had any intention of proposing. And he never will. He just decided not to tell them he wasn’t going to so they couldn’t plan ahead. Essentially just f***ing with them. Never told them if he was gonna accept that monetary offer or not either. Just kinda left them hanging and thinking a proposal was coming, and then made Chris Harrison look stupid when he asked, “Don’t you have a surprise for us?” Huh? What surprise? I know no surprise. Esssss ok. So yeah, producers thought he was proposing last night because he told them he would, even though he never had any intention to. So they hyped it just in case, and it backfired.
3) What happened two weeks ago that gave Juan Pablo and Nikki a “change of plans” in their relationship?
That was the DWTS issue. Juan Pablo was going to be a cast member this season, but the higher ups pulled the plug on him probably because of the media storm he caused with his gay comments and realizing that people didn’t really like him as much as they did back in September. So as I told you a couple weeks ago, he was no longer going to be on the cast. When Chris asked them “What are your plans now,” the reason he said “Our plans changed a couple weeks ago” was because that’s when he found out he wasn’t going to be on DWTS. If he was on it, he’d be put up in housing in LA, and I’m sure Nikki was gonna move out there for the time being with him, kinda like Catherine did with Sean. Now? I have no idea what those two plan on doing. He certainly isn’t moving to Kansas City, and I don’t see her moving down to Miami by herself to live with him. Your guess is as good as mine. I mean c’mon. Does anybody believe these two will last after watching that debacle last night?
4) Why wasn’t Neil Lane in St. Lucia?
Well, he was. And he met Juan Pablo. They just decided not to show it on the episode. They saved it for thedeleted scenes. If Juan Pablo would’ve proposed in St. Lucia, the scene of him picking out rings with Neil would’ve been shown. He didn’t, so it wasn’t. Pretty simple.
5) So did Juan Pablo ever have any intention of proposing to anyone this season?
No. Absolutely not. I’ve been telling you that for months. One of the things that I can’t prove but, ummmmm, if you watched any episode this season, then watched his performance last night, I don’t think it’s hard to tell that he was not invested into this process at all, is glad it’s over, and will probably never have anything to do with this franchise ever again. ABC’s fault for casting him in the first place, and Juan Pablo’s fault for acting like a horse’s ass for most of the season.
6) Do you think Chris Harrison was too hard on Juan Pablo and Nikki last night?
Ehhh, yes and no. Yes in the fact that Chris basically got embarrassed by Juan Pablo for the whole surprise thing and they still had a good 20 minutes of airtime to fill, so he had to keep harping on it. No in that, it’s his job. I don’t think Chris asking Juan Pablo “Why can’t you just say you love her” was too much. I think he could’ve directed more questions at Nikki and asked her what she thought about things, was she expecting a proposal, when she didn’t get it was she mad, what’s it been like over the last 4 months, etc. Chris didn’t ask anything that the live audience and everyone sitting at home didn’t want to know, which was, “Why can’t you act like you’re happy with everything?”
7) Do you think Juan Pablo loves Nikki?
Absolutely not. There’s a reason Juan Pablo never said on TV last night that he loved her. Had nothing to do with cultural differences, or being private, or whatever BS answer he was feeding everyone. He didn’t say he loves her because he doesn’t. It can’t get more simple than that. For four months I’ve told you this guy was in it for the paycheck, had zero interest in finding a wife on this show, was never going to propose on TV, and will never propose to any of these girls in real life. It’s just the way it is. Nikki will realize that sooner rather than later and they’ll be done. What an absolutely bizarre f***ing relationship. Yikes. Have some self respect Nikki. To sit there and take that on live TV? I mean, wow. Just wow.
8) Do you think Nikki is in love with Juan Pablo?
I think she’s trying to convince herself she is. Small town girl, getting the taste of fame, I’m sure that Nikki is much more into the fact she “won” the show than she is of actually being with Juan Pablo. No self respecting woman can sit up there like she did last night and not stand up for herself or speak out on their relationship. She says she doesn’t know if he loves her, but then in the same breath says, “Well, he doesn’t say it, but he shows it.” She’s completely been brainwashed and everyone watching last night, apparently except for her, can see this relationship is going nowhere.
9) How did you think Andi came off last night?
Lets just say I’ll take Des roller blading around Santa Monica Pier over Andi walking awkwardly through a park with a giant grin on her face any day of the week and twice on Sundays. One of the more cornier intro packages we’ve ever seen, and that’s saying something.
10) Ummmm, will you be spoiling Andi’s season?
As long as this show is on the air, I will continue to spoil it. Every. Season.
Ultimately I think you saw Juan Pablo’s true colors come out in St. Lucia and then on the ATFR. You say all those nice things to Clare and about Clare, then you let her go, and just because she’s honest with you about how she feels you immediately do a 180 and say “Glad I didn’t pick her?” Does he realize what a complete jackass that makes him look like? Not to mention rude, insensitive, egotistical, and any other horrible adjective you can think of. Then again, none of what happened last night should really surprise anyone. He’s a phony who was just in it for the fame and money aspect of it, had no idea what he was getting into, and when he started realizing that not everyone is going to like you, had no clue how to react. Usually it meant going on the defensive and insulting more people. But hey, that’s Juan Pablo. He doesn’t know any better. He doesn’t think he’s done one thing wrong all season. Not one. And that’s pretty much him in a nutshell. Clueless.
http://realitysteve.com/2014/03/11/the-bachelor-juan-pablo-spoilers-andis-guys/#uvWJsKtUJDtKGbDy.99
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I hope we get some real love stories with Andi.
And Chris and Des are still mum on the events of last night huh?
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bleuberry wrote:Thanks. That was interesting. What a bummer of a season, to have it end like that!
I hope we get some real love stories with Andi.
And Chris and Des are still mum on the events of last night huh?
Yes, but I bet they address it in her next blog and his "corner."
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soccermom333 wrote:bleuberry wrote:Thanks. That was interesting. What a bummer of a season, to have it end like that!
I hope we get some real love stories with Andi.
And Chris and Des are still mum on the events of last night huh?
Yes, but I bet they address it in her next blog and his "corner."
I think they don't know how to address it. Jason and Molly did a good job on their podcast.
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Life isn't about waiting for the storm to pass, it's about learning to dance in the rain! #letsDance @chrisrsiegfried #carlateneyck photography
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bleuberry wrote:
deshartsock
15 minutes ago
Life isn't about waiting for the storm to pass, it's about learning to dance in the rain! #letsDance @chrisrsiegfried #carlateneyck photography
Beautiful! I hope Juan Pablo & Nikki will take this advice.
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sigfriea So cute! And I love your shirt too!
sigfriea That was meant for @DesHartsock although @ChrisRSiegfried you look handsome too!!
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