Episode 7 -- Miami -- airs Feb 17

Catdwoman50 wrote:

pbmax wrote:What would be a graceful way for Nikki to handle it.

Good question.  First off, to not leave a conversation, saying something like, "this is stupid."  I realize that this can be perceived as honesty, but most often this type of behavior can excacerbate conflict.  This is one of those moments when silence would be welcome.  Another way would be to deliver a difficult message without being perceived as disrespectful, e.g. a style that is often employed is to wrap a difficult message around positive feedback.  It's just learning how to argue to get positive results, similar to celebrity-coaching on what to say around the media, if you don't have anything good to say, say "no comment."  So I think if Nikki can be a little more diplomatic she would easily make friends in a "The Bachelor" type of environment.  My thoughts.

There is that thought: You cannot argue with a crazy person.

When someone is jealous of you there is nothing you can do to sooth them. No matter what you say or do, they find fault. When it comes to love, all rationale exits the brain.
If Nikki told them that she's removing herself from the show, they would love her.  

I don't think that Nikki wants to be friends with people like Clare. Can't say I blame her. She has become friends with the people she liked, Kelly and Andi. I can respect that.

Nikki Ferrell ‏@Nikki_Ferrell  Feb 17
Y'all are right I wasn't there to make friends...but then I did. The best friend for life kind of friend@AndiDorfman pic.twitter.com/FlRGjJ1Dp2


Nikki Ferrell ‏@Nikki_Ferrell  Feb 17
And @kellytravisty and @sharleenjoynt and who can forget @KatHurd for her guacamole making skills and @christyhansen_ on braids  #friends

It looks to me like Nikki did come away with friends. Renee & Nikki are also following each other on Twitter. Funny that Clare is not - following Nikki that is.   

Clare was getting plenty of girls ragging on her in PIs earlier in the show so it's not just Nikki. It's all about what they choose to show us.   :Nod:

Well I have two people in my family that have the same guilty pleasure with the bachelor. One is my daughter age 20 and the other one is my mother age 83. I always like to ask them their thoughts on the season since they don't get involved with spoilers, twitter or online stuff at all. So they are just commenting straight from just watching. My mom still thinks is real and doesn't understand editing. So funny…. so I asked each of them today their thoughts. They both have been pretty good in the past picking F1 by just watching. My daughter usually likes the F1 when I prefer the F2 gal. It is amazing to me. So for background…my daughter has a pretty snarky sense of humor, she is in school for nursing and wants to specialize in pediatrics. My mom is sweet and sees good in everyone and was married to my father for over 50 years before he passed. She was a stay at home mom and raised 8 kids.

Questions What do you think about the bachelor this time?
Daughter (she loves JP) for the first few weeks she really liked Andi… after last week she said that she is beginning to like Clare because she loved their second 1:1….after Monday's episode she said "I don't like any of them for JP"….I think Nikki is a snot, there is snark and then there is snotty snark. Andi has become a winer and not a confident women. If she would choose she would pick Clare because she thinks they are cute together.

Mom - She liked the cute nurse front he first night and Renee the single mom. As the weeks went on she said that nurse needs a attitude adjustment. She still loves Renee but doesn't see a deep enough connection with JP. Today I asked her after Monday's episode and she said "I really like Clare and JP together they have the best connection." But something happens next eek and it looks like everything falls apart. She says that Nikki is a brat and just not pretty to her because she is just not nice. My mom thinks Clare just might be F1 if she doesn't mess things up for herself.

I thought that was interesting. We shall see.

How could they miss Clare being a snot? Seriously. Miss "I will not be disrespected." Clare clearly has issues.

I can't understand how one wouldn't see Clare's behavior problems ...

Catdwoman50 wrote:

pbmax wrote:What would be a graceful way for Nikki to handle it.

Good question.  First off, to not leave a conversation, saying something like, "this is stupid."  I realize that this can be perceived as honesty, but most often this type of behavior can excacerbate conflict.  This is one of those moments when silence would be welcome.  Another way would be to deliver a difficult message without being perceived as disrespectful, e.g. a style that is often employed is to wrap a difficult message around positive feedback.  It's just learning how to argue to get positive results, similar to celebrity-coaching on what to say around the media, if you don't have anything good to say, say "no comment."  So I think if Nikki can be a little more diplomatic she would easily make friends in a "The Bachelor" type of environment.  My thoughts.

You got to be kidding! when you know a conversation is headed into an argument the best you can do is leave and end it. Staying there will just escalate the situation. You can't argue to get positive result, it brings out the worst.

Funny thing .. Nikki made several good friends

sde1041 wrote:I can't understand how one wouldn't see Clare's behavior problems ...

People see things differently.  My mom commented again that she likes to watch the girls and JP connection and when the girls talk about JP not so much the girls and friendships.   My mom says that is all fluff…..she says I watch Juan Pablo….she also said that Nikki has said nothing nice about the girls and when she is with JP and talking she gloats about herself.  (I clarified that my mom is talking about PI's during their dates).    Remember my mom is 83 years old and she watches it from a different thought process….she says she only really pays attention to Juan Pablo and who he is with and what they say during that time.   So I just might go back and watch only those times and see if I agree with her. I think watching it from that point of view might be close how Juan Pablo's point of view (since he doesn't know about all the fluff) Then if you only watch the PI's during each date maybe it will come across differently to me. We shall see.

Jeepers wrote:Funny thing .. Nikki made several good friends

I am sure everyone did……I know I have really good friends with all types of personalities. My daughter is one that has a snarky tongue like Nikki and I still love her and enjoy being around her. But at times I shake my head and say that she will have to find a great man that can handle that and love her in spite of it.

4health wrote:

sde1041 wrote:I can't understand how one wouldn't see Clare's behavior problems ...

People see things differently.  My mom commented again that she likes to watch the girls and JP connection and when the girls talk about JP not so much the girls and friendships.   My mom says that is all fluff…..she says I watch Juan Pablo….she also said that Nikki has said nothing nice about the girls and when she is with JP and talking she gloats about herself.  (I clarified that my mom is talking about PI's during their dates).    Remember my mom is 83 years old and she watches it from a different thought process….she says she only really pays attention to Juan Pablo and who he is with and what they say during that time.   So I just might go back and watch only those times and see if I agree with her. I think watching it from that point of view might be close how Juan Pablo's point of view (since he doesn't know about all the fluff) Then if you only watch the PI's during each date maybe it will come across differently to me. We shall see.

Because Nikki's PI's is what some are judging her on not what actually happens on the show. Clare had an attitude on the plane back to their hotel cause she didn't get the rose. Nikki is talking confidence now because JP is whispering confidence things in her ears.

I might be hearing things, but did Nikki whisper "Oh my God" twice when Juan Pablo kissed her after playing catch? I thought she said, "OMG, OMG" while kissing him and then he moaned. Anyone else hear this?