The Bachelor 18- Episode 5 - 2/03 - Discussion - Spoilers

Kelad9 wrote:

umngirl wrote:JuanPa is kinda a jacka$$. He basically made Clare out to be the bad guy and like he wanted no part of being in that ocean with her when he was a very willing participant.

i agree. JP is being very much a player this season. I kinda wish he would stop leading these girls on and decide very quickly who he wants at the end. Right now his body language has been all over the place with these girls. It's like he hasn't been able to make up his mind and isn't very clear on what he wants.

Maybe being the El Bachelor kinda got to his head during filming?? I think he'll end up regretting some things when the show is over.

I think his body language is all over the place is because he wasn't feeling any of them...other than a piece of ass handed to him on a platter...or rather 27 platters. He is OK with checking out everyone's butt and sticking his tongue down their throat, but there is no way he will make any of them Camilla's stepmom.

Sprite wrote:

Kelad9 wrote:

umngirl wrote:JuanPa is kinda a jacka$$. He basically made Clare out to be the bad guy and like he wanted no part of being in that ocean with her when he was a very willing participant.

i agree. JP is being very much a player this season. I kinda wish he would stop leading these girls on and decide very quickly who he wants at the end. Right now his body language has been all over the place with these girls. It's like he hasn't been able to make up his mind and isn't very clear on what he wants.

Maybe being the El Bachelor kinda got to his head during filming?? I think he'll end up regretting some things when the show is over.

I think his body language is all over the place is because he wasn't feeling any of them...other than a piece of ass handed to him on a platter...or rather 27 platters. He is OK with checking out everyone's butt and sticking his tongue down their throat, but there is no way he will make any of them Camilla's stepmom.

EXACTLY.

Mr. Manwhore just wants easy access to a bunch of hot chicks so he can probably sleep with several of them, but kiss and grope even more. He's not looking for a stepmom for her, he's looking for an easy lay.

biglove44 wrote:THANK YOU iamreal2u for the chart link!  Now I know how the season ends.  The 2 smartest girls, who were my favorites after catching 2 episodes, eliminated themselves.  Goooooooo ladies!

JP was a prick for making Clare feel bad about swimming in the ocean with him.  He's imposing his guilt onto her and it's wrong & selfish.

  Andi just took a while. But smart and classy girls maybe one of them gets to be next ette.

Ok, I have to disagree. 1st of all nothing really bad happened in that ocean in front of cameras no matter what Clare made it sound like. You know that's what they want us to think and are geniuses at getting the sound bites they want. JP realized he shouldn't have gone with Clare in the middle of the night, hence the guilt. The whole Camilla part was just dumb because no way will she be watching more than highly edited parts of the show. I have a feeling the producers played a part in working both of them up at the RC. Clare shouldn't have gone just like Courtney, Michelle M, and countless others in the past but all were enabled or encouraged as were the leads. It's all so repetitious and way too much time spent on it. Had to f/f.

I guess I don't think JP is any worse than previous Bachelors. They all did a lot of kissing, etc. I'm not thinking he's going to fall in love but do think he likes a few of them quite a bit.

Still like Andi, Sharleen, Renee and Nikki. Still can't stand Clare.

Catdwoman50 wrote:

biglove44 wrote:THANK YOU iamreal2u for the chart link!  Now I know how the season ends.  The 2 smartest girls, who were my favorites after catching 2 episodes, eliminated themselves.  Goooooooo ladies!

JP was a prick for making Clare feel bad about swimming in the ocean with him.  He's imposing his guilt onto her and it's wrong & selfish.

  Andi just took a while. But smart and classy girls maybe one of them gets to be next ette.

JP Rosenbaum indicates that there was skinny dipping. Did I miss this? I saw suits.
He doesnt appear to be a fan of JP #2.  

Catdwoman50 wrote:

biglove44 wrote:THANK YOU iamreal2u for the chart link!  Now I know how the season ends.  The 2 smartest girls, who were my favorites after catching 2 episodes, eliminated themselves.  Goooooooo ladies!

JP was a prick for making Clare feel bad about swimming in the ocean with him.  He's imposing his guilt onto her and it's wrong & selfish.

  Andi just took a while. But smart and classy girls maybe one of them gets to be next ette.

I would love to see Andi as the next bachelorette! Did not like what Juan did tonight. He basically told Clare, it was not your fault, don't worry about it and stop crying, but...... I'm blaming you because I feel guilty!   

Guys! What happened in the ocean??? Did they just make out or seal the deal? I know this question sounds sarcastic but I'm seriously asking! I don't understand all the drama if it was just a make out session. Yikes. Either way, regardless of what happened, JuanPa looked like a major jerk. And the whole Camila thing is just no comment, she's 4, she cannot spell her last name yet probably.

Finally, it's pretty clear that Andi is the Ette and Nikki is literally the only contender left for F1. Poor Nikki, totally got screwed in this deal and Andi walks away the big winner with her own show.

Alanna wrote:Guys! What happened in the ocean??? Did they just make out or seal the deal? I know this question sounds sarcastic but I'm seriously asking! I don't understand all the drama if it was just a make out session. Yikes. Either way, regardless of what happened, JuanPa looked like a major jerk. And the whole Camila thing is just no comment, she's 4, she cannot spell her last name yet probably.

Finally, it's pretty clear that Andi is the Ette and Nikki is literally the only contender left for F1. Poor Nikki, totally got screwed in this deal and Andi walks away the big winner with her own show.

Who knows what really happened.     We are dealing with TPTB.     But...... I believe it was more than just a make out session, and night swim in the ocean.  :shocked!:      Agree about Andi and Nikki.   

Alanna wrote:Guys! What happened in the ocean??? Did they just make out or seal the deal? I know this question sounds sarcastic but I'm seriously asking! I don't understand all the drama if it was just a make out session. Yikes. Either way, regardless of what happened, JuanPa looked like a major jerk. And the whole Camila thing is just no comment, she's 4, she cannot spell her last name yet probably.

Finally, it's pretty clear that Andi is the Ette and Nikki is literally the only contender left for F1. Poor Nikki, totally got screwed in this deal and Andi walks away the big winner with her own show.

I think they just made out and the TPTB wanted to make it more dramatic. They spent at least 1/4 or more of the show focusing on Clare because she's the only drama queen they have.

I think you're right about Andi being the Bachelorette if she wants it. I'm ok with that.  :Nod: 

Alanna wrote:Guys! What happened in the ocean??? Did they just make out or seal the deal? I know this question sounds sarcastic but I'm seriously asking! I don't understand all the drama if it was just a make out session. Yikes. Either way, regardless of what happened, JuanPa looked like a major jerk. And the whole Camila thing is just no comment, she's 4, she cannot spell her last name yet probably.

Finally, it's pretty clear that Andi is the Ette and Nikki is literally the only contender left for F1. Poor Nikki, totally got screwed in this deal and Andi walks away the big winner with her own show.

Nah, they didn't do the dirty.  They had their bathing suits on.  

Albean - JP isn't worse than any past bachelor but tonight, he did some stupid things.

Andi is definitely the favorite for the bachelorette.  I'm not opposed to it either, smart educated women rock.  The franchise has learned, no more Emily Maynards, yay!

Thanks for your replies, everyone! I think this makes sense, no ocean "sleeping together" or "making love" but ridiculous and uncomfortable situation anyway. I was beginning to worry for Clare's health otherwise, that ocean water isn't very hygienic. LOL I'm done.

JP is by no means my favorite Bachelor but I liked that he got emotional sending the girls home tonight.