Re: *No Spoilers* The Bachelor 18 Media Thread

[albean99]

I wouldn't take the article as written. US Mag doesn't seem to have the Bach connections they once had.  I have a feeling there's some truth in there but not a lot. I don't see Andi sleeping with him for example. She knows her buddy has a real connection with him. I also don't think JP is such a tool that he'd talk about sending her home or about the others. This is the guy who cried sending girls home.  I do think she realizes they aren't a good match and doesn't want to get in the way of Nikki & JP.

[mprssdbyu]

I wouldn't take the article as written. US Mag doesn't seem to have the Bach connections they once had.  I have a feeling there's some truth in there but not a lot. I don't see Andi sleeping with him for example. She knows her buddy has a real connection with him. I also don't think JP is such a tool that he'd talk about sending her home or about the others. This is the guy who cried sending girls home.  I do think she realizes they aren't a good match and doesn't want to get in the way of Nikki & JP.

Hi Bean! Oh, I think the light bulb came on while she lie awake and JP was sleeping...he's just not that into you. If it was that bad, she would have confronted him and left right then!

[albean99]

I wouldn't take the article as written. US Mag doesn't seem to have the Bach connections they once had.  I have a feeling there's some truth in there but not a lot. I don't see Andi sleeping with him for example. She knows her buddy has a real connection with him. I also don't think JP is such a tool that he'd talk about sending her home or about the others. This is the guy who cried sending girls home.  I do think she realizes they aren't a good match and doesn't want to get in the way of Nikki & JP.

Hi Bean! Oh, I think the light bulb came on while she lie awake and JP was sleeping...he's just not that into you. If it was that bad, she would have confronted him and left right then!

 Still doubt very much anything happened. She & Nikki were/are too close for that. Maybe the next morning the producers talked to her and planted the seed that if she were to stay it might hurt Nikki and possibly hinted about the Bachelorette. I'm not sure we'll actually know unless she spills at the WTA.  

[mprssdbyu]

I wouldn't take the article as written. US Mag doesn't seem to have the Bach connections they once had.  I have a feeling there's some truth in there but not a lot. I don't see Andi sleeping with him for example. She knows her buddy has a real connection with him. I also don't think JP is such a tool that he'd talk about sending her home or about the others. This is the guy who cried sending girls home.  I do think she realizes they aren't a good match and doesn't want to get in the way of Nikki & JP.

Hi Bean! Oh, I think the light bulb came on while she lie awake and JP was sleeping...he's just not that into you. If it was that bad, she would have confronted him and left right then!

 Still doubt very much anything happened. She & Nikki were/are too close for that. Maybe the next morning the producers talked to her and planted the seed that if she were to stay it might hurt Nikki and possibly hinted about the Bachelorette. I'm not sure we'll actually know unless she spills at the WTA.  

Oh, I haven't given any thought to whether anything happened. If it had, I don't think she would have included those details in her PI. The article said slept with him and to me that meant simply lying down together but of course they want you to think along the lines of something totally different.. You can do that with your best male buddy...no big deal.

[Litta123]

A good reminder about how editing influences our perspective...no spoilers in the article, but I can't guarantee the comments as I didn't read them.

Season 15 “Villain” Michelle Money on Clare Crawley and Nikki Ferrell! Exclusive

Key paragraphs...

Though viewers may be all set to call Clare “crazy” or Nikki “bitchy,” Michelle warns that you’d better step off the judgements. “Because of my experience in the show, I really truly realize that you just don't know someone and you don't know who they are until you meet them firsthand.”

You hear that? Hindsight really has given her a zen perspective. Michelle tells us, “I've really gone out of my way to make sure I do not pass judgment on anyone on the show. I only wish people would have given me that same respect. You never know. It's really incredible what they're capable of doing in the editing room, so I just made the decision that until I meet somebody personally I won't form a judgment.”

[Aunties_Love]

Putting the article description together with the episode 9 description:

Episode 9 ~ March 3rd

The three remaining bachelorettes join Juan Pablo on a trip to St. Lucia. One-on-one dates include an excursion on a luxury yacht, a visit to Latille Falls and a horseback-riding adventure. Meanwhile, a contender pays a surprise visit, leading to an explosive situation.

So if, if, if the episode description goes in the correct order, it would appear that Andi heard about Clare's date. Eww! Would it makes sense that Andi interrupts Nikki's date because she needs to talk to Juan? It could explain Nikki's crying cap on the sofa. She sees Andi upset and she knows something bad is going down...again, just speculating.

Doesn't the f1 usually get the last FD?

Personally I think the SC of Nikki crying on the sofa is her LCD, just a hunch nothing concrete. I think the SC in the red dress is her crying at the F3 RC when she heard that Andi had left. I don't get the impression Andi interrupts Nikki's FD.

Regarding the bolded, they have been in all orders.

[JBF]

Quite often they "time" F1's date just before The Big Drama. For example, Frank and Brooks were destined to hightail all along and both had their dates scheduled right after F1 Roberto and F1 Chris respectively, so viewers would completely forget them.

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On another note: Red Carpet interviews with Chris Harrison semi-"spoiling" (well... not exactly). It is up to you if you want to watch them.

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Interview #1 reminds me of two things: the promos showing a family member's disapproval and the way Juan keeps gushing on screen about one particular contestant. It is as if the editors are trying to "prove something" to a skeptic.

[nd4reality]

The line that caught my attention the most was that the next 2 episodes shaped what happens at the end of the season.

Meaning there was a toss up in both the HTDs and FDs which impacted the Finale.

[umngirl]

The line that caught my attention the most was that the next 2 episodes shaped what happens at the end of the season.

Meaning there was a toss up in both the HTDs and FDs which impacted the Finale.

I don't think he can necessarily trust that line. CH also said the letter during Sean's season was a huge deal that set off a chain reaction of events that we wouldn't know the result of til the ATFR. Turns out it was nothing more than a simple love letter.

It's called overhype and CH is the king of it. I'm doubting whatever happens really changes who was gonna go home.

[iamreal2u]

Quite often they "time" F1's date just before The Big Drama. For example, Frank and Brooks were destined to hightail all along and both had their dates scheduled right after F1 Roberto and F1 Chris respectively, so viewers would completely forget them.

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On another note: Red Carpet interviews with Chris Harrison semi-"spoiling" (well... not exactly). It is up to you if you want to watch them.

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Interview #1 reminds me of two things: the promos showing a family member's disapproval and the way Juan keeps gushing on screen about one particular contestant. It is as if the editors are trying to "prove something" to a skeptic.

A difference is Constantine leaving right before Ashley and JP's date. In this case Andy leaving seem more to affect Nikki.

[nd4reality]

The line that caught my attention the most was that the next 2 episodes shaped what happens at the end of the season.

Meaning there was a toss up in both the HTDs and FDs which impacted the Finale.

I don't think he can necessarily trust that line. CH also said the letter during Sean's season was a huge deal that set off a chain reaction of events that we wouldn't know the result of til the ATFR. Turns out it was nothing more than a simple love letter.

It's called overhype and CH is the king of it. I'm doubting whatever happens really changes who was gonna go home.

Perhaps. Or not.
It is possible that like Ali's season, the person who left was intended to go to the finale. So yes that affected what happened at the end of the season. I would say for Des's season the same if not more. All season don't necessarily follow Sean's season.

What CH is hyping could be also be drama at the FRC. For eg. what we see during the HTDs and FDs will be a clue to his decision making at the end. Personalities and true colors could come to the forefront.

[umngirl]

The line that caught my attention the most was that the next 2 episodes shaped what happens at the end of the season.

Meaning there was a toss up in both the HTDs and FDs which impacted the Finale.

I don't think he can necessarily trust that line. CH also said the letter during Sean's season was a huge deal that set off a chain reaction of events that we wouldn't know the result of til the ATFR. Turns out it was nothing more than a simple love letter.

It's called overhype and CH is the king of it. I'm doubting whatever happens really changes who was gonna go home.

Perhaps. Or not.
It is possible that like Ali's season, the person who left was intended to go to the finale. So yes that affected what happened at the end of the season. I would say for Des's season the same if not more. All season don't necessarily follow Sean's season.

What CH is hyping could be  also be drama at the FRC. For eg. what we see during the HTDs  and FDs will be a clue to his decision making at the end. Personalities and true colors could come to the forefront.

Unless his true F1 is the one leaving him early, I don't think there's much "drama" there. People leave early during the last few episodes quite often. Other than perhaps Des, I don't think the early leaver would have been the F1.

Still feels like hype from CH to me.

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