Re: *No Spoilers* The Bachelor 18 Media Thread

[iamreal2u]

Well I guess nothing happened in the ocean…Don't know what to make of theses girls….

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[MVMom39forever]

Thanks iamreal2u for bringing over link to radio show!! Here's quick recap of interview with Allie the nanny who left at ep 5 and Christy the blond in marketing who left at ep 3 with Chicago radio station:

Christy said ... she was sad to leave the girls; they are together 24/7 with nothing to do but talk to each other

The radio personalities asked if some girls were really falling for him and they both agreed. Allie or Christy responded: "Oh my God yeah!"

They also said it was easy for the women to tell who Juan Pablo was really into  ... and it wasn't them ... but they enjoyed the experience of travel and hanging with other women on show. Allie said that she definitely would have been up for falling more for Juan Pa if he had shown more interest in her.

The female personality asked, "Wasn't it just about winning for many of the girls there?"

The girls said ... "No, it was about Love."

The female announcer than suggested that they were being coached by ABC PR and they laughed

Allie was in Vietnam ... she is saying that people should not jump to conclusion that Juan Pa and Clare had sex in the ocean. Then Christy said that she heard Clare had a "yeast infection" due to being in the water and wet bathing suit so they would not have. OMG!! This naturally grossed out announcers.

Christy and Allie said that they both did not kiss him.

They also said that because he doesn't drink, several of the girls did not drink either which in some ways reduced the friction/drama level.

Allie says that Clare is a very emotional person and just got pissed because he was not all happy about their time in waves.

Allie and Christy are moving to L.A.

[Guest]

The moving to LA was a joke.

[Mommyof2]

Well I guess nothing happened in the ocean…Don't know what to make of theses girls….

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I don't think they did the "deed" in the ocean. With cameras rolling? Uh, no.

[nd4reality]

Thanks iamreal2u for bringing over link to radio show!! Here's quick recap of interview with Allie the nanny who left at ep 5 and Christy the blond in marketing who left at ep 3 with Chicago radio station:

Christy said ... she was sad to leave the girls; they are together 24/7 with nothing to do but talk to each other

The radio personalities asked if some girls were really falling for him and they both agreed. Allie or Christy responded: "Oh my God yeah!"

They also said it was easy for the women to tell who Juan Pablo was really into  ... and it wasn't them ... but they enjoyed the experience of travel and hanging with other women on show. Allie said that she definitely would have been up for falling more for Juan Pa if he had shown more interest in her.

The female personality asked, "Wasn't it just about winning for many of the girls there?"

The girls said ... "No, it was about Love."

The female announcer than suggested that they were being coached by ABC PR and they laughed

Allie was in Vietnam ... she is saying that people should not jump to conclusion that Juan Pa and Clare had sex in the ocean. Then Christy said that she heard Clare had a "yeast infection" due to being in the water and wet bathing suit so they would not have. OMG!! This naturally grossed out announcers.

Christy and Allie said that they both did not kiss him.

They also said that because he doesn't drink, several of the girls did not drink either which in some ways reduced the friction/drama level.

Allie says that Clare is a very emotional person and just got pissed because he was not all happy about their time in waves.

Allie and Christy are moving to L.A.

Thanks for typing that up !

I don't believe that they did anything other than make out in the ocean. This is just the sort of thing that the press loves and tptb (and CH)    to get folks talking about the show. CHs blog was an example of that.

If they did not have this incident and the drunk girls they wouldn't really have a "dramatic" season on their hands and we all know that they need something be it girlfriends back home, someone hooking up with a producer or any of the other "wrong reasons" they have paraded for us season after season.
We have to remember that it is their best interests that they generated this sort of stuff to be kept in the news and the fans talking and taking sides. Smoke without fire.

[mckenna91]

Thanks iamreal2u for bringing over link to radio show!! Here's quick recap of interview with Allie the nanny who left at ep 5 and Christy the blond in marketing who left at ep 3 with Chicago radio station:

Christy said ... she was sad to leave the girls; they are together 24/7 with nothing to do but talk to each other

The radio personalities asked if some girls were really falling for him and they both agreed. Allie or Christy responded: "Oh my God yeah!"

They also said it was easy for the women to tell who Juan Pablo was really into  ... and it wasn't them ... but they enjoyed the experience of travel and hanging with other women on show. Allie said that she definitely would have been up for falling more for Juan Pa if he had shown more interest in her.

The female personality asked, "Wasn't it just about winning for many of the girls there?"

The girls said ... "No, it was about Love."

The female announcer than suggested that they were being coached by ABC PR and they laughed

Allie was in Vietnam ... she is saying that people should not jump to conclusion that Juan Pa and Clare had sex in the ocean. Then Christy said that she heard Clare had a "yeast infection" due to being in the water and wet bathing suit so they would not have. OMG!! This naturally grossed out announcers.

Christy and Allie said that they both did not kiss him.

They also said that because he doesn't drink, several of the girls did not drink either which in some ways reduced the friction/drama level.

Allie says that Clare is a very emotional person and just got pissed because he was not all happy about their time in waves.

Allie and Christy are moving to L.A.

They didn't say Clare had a yeast infection, they said she would have had one if she and Juan Pablo had done anything in the ocean.

[MVMom39forever]

McKenna... Thanks for correction!! My bad ...

[julychild]

NEWS/ The Bachelor's Clare Breaks Silence on Juan Pablo Hookup Controversy: "I Won't Let Someone Shame Me"
by TIERNEY BRICKER Today 11:58 AM PST

The Bachelor, Juan Pablo Galvais, Clare
ABC/Rick Rowell

Did they or didn't they?
After Monday's episode of The Bachelor, fans were left wondering if Juan Pablo Galavis had sex with Clare Crawley, who snuck out of the hotel room she was sharing with the other contestants to pay the Venezuelan Bachelor a visit at 4 a.m. The two then got a little hot and heavy in the ocean. Cut to the cocktail ceremony the next night, where Juan Pablo "blindsided" Clare by saying he regretted what they did, calling it "a mistake." Clare, of course, was upset and defended herself, and viewers expressed their disappointment in the way Juan Pablo made the 32-year-old hairstylist feel bad about her actions.
Now, Clare is breaking her silence and setting the record straight about what went down between her and Juan Pablo.
"I love getting my side of it out and to have a voice to stuff that happened and be able to elaborate on things," she told E! News before detailing what happened (or didn't happen!) in Vietnam. Plus, she talked about her family's reaction to the episode, what's ahead for her relationship with Juan Pablo on the ABC reality hit, saying, "I don't like feeling uncomfortable or shamed or talked down to."
READ: Find out what went down in The Bachelor's most recent episode

E! News: What exactly happened in the ocean? Because there's been a lot of speculation.
Clare: Nothing happened in the ocean! [Laughs.] I know there's definitely a lot of speculation about it, and I guess I do appreciate this opportunity to make it very clear, because it's a little strange to me that nobody's made it very clear. Nothing happened and what had happened was simply that two people were living in their heart and being in the moment and falling in love. I was falling in love and I was checking off an item on my bucket list, which was to swim in the ocean and enjoying the moment.

So were you surprised by Juan Pablo's convo? Because you definitely seemed blindsided.
To say the least. I was definitely blindsided. I knew, he knew, everybody involved knew nothing happened, and so in my eyes, we're adults and I would do it all over again in a heartbeat. I found nothing wrong with it. I was doing something that I wanted to be doing and we're allowed to swim in the ocean. There's nothing shameful about it.


What did you think of the editing for the ocean scene?
I think it left a lot for people to interpret it any way they wanted to. I don't think a lot of things were made very clear, which in the moment of it all, everything was very clear. It was definitely surprising that things were taken out of context.

Watching the episode, was it weird for you that he was hesitant to even kiss Renee, a single mom, and yet made out with a lot of the other girls? A lot of viewers have found that odd and hypocritical.
I feel it weird that there's so much gray area. I think that when you're the lead and you're in a situation like this, you need to be very clear what your intentions are, and you need to be very clear on what you want. Watching it play back, I can see how people were confused. I can see how people, me included, didn't know what direction they were going in.

Do you think it was fair to you that he brought his daughter Camila into the conversation as a reason why the kiss in the ocean was a mistake?
I think him bringing Camila into this, I don't know if "fair" is really the word I would use, I think it was coming from an honest spot from him and it was a concern from him, but I feel my side of it is that I knew going into this that he had a daughter and coming into this I have nieces and nephews, and I am also a woman of integrity, and I would never disrespect him or his daughter. If that was the case, I wouldn't have come on the show or I would've eliminated myself…I would never do something to monopolize that or jeopardize that. It's not in my nature. I wouldn't do that on-camera or off-camera.


We found it refreshing that you defended yourself by saying you weren't thinking of the cameras and were just doing what you would've done in real life. But after that had happened, were you nervous to see how this was going to go down on the show? What was your reaction when you watched the episode?
I was a little bit more nervous, because I think when you're in the moment of it, a lot of times you don't remember what you say or you don't remember how you handled it. It's such an extended period of time of filming that's so emotional and so a lot of thing you don't really remember. I forgot how I handled it, but prior to watching it back, I wanted to make sure that I stood up for myself and that it came across that I won't let someone demean me or make me feel bad or make me feel shame for something that isn't wrong. I didn't want to look like I did something wrong or like a pushover. I didn't want it to look like that.

What was your family's reaction to what happened between you and Juan Pablo?
Obviously, I think being the youngest out of six women, they're going to be defensive. They don't want to see their baby sister cry and they don't want to see their baby sister hurt. Even though I'm 32, I'm still their baby sister and it's hard to watch. It's hard to see somebody that you love hurt. So it was very hard for them to watch.

And can you preview what we'll see in the next episode? Because the preview shows you were still pretty upset over what Juan Pablo had said to you.
I wasn't trying to drag anything out, it was more that I needed clarification, because I wasn't OK with how he made me feel. It wasn't so much his reasoning behind it; it was how he made me feel. I don't like anything that's wishy-washy. I don't like feeling uncomfortable or shamed or talked down to about something that I still believed wasn't wrong. I didn't understand really why he didn't understand my intentions. I just needed clarification.

We know you said you would do it all over again, but do you think going to his suite that night impacted your relationship with him and how you'll look back at your experience on the show?
I feel like any sort of bumps in the road can either create cracks or it can make things stronger. That's real life. There's always going to be disagreements, there's always going to be hardships. Life isn't always perfect and fantasy. It's those things that determine how the end works out and if you stay together because that can show true strength in a relationship, how you handled stuff like that. It's not always easy.

Finally, are you happy with how everything turned out?
100 percent. I don't regret a thing. I did my best. He's not perfect, I'm not perfect, none of us are perfect. We're all human. It's whether or not you hold yourself with integrity and I know everybody sees just a miniscule amount of what truly happened and they see editing, and I know what happened. I know I gave everything my best and put 100 percent into that. I was as real as I could be and as honest as I could be, whether or not it was right or wrong or cool or not cool. So I don't regret that.
The Bachelor airs Mondays at 8 p.m. on ABC.

[mbatts]

Here is another article
The Bachelor's Clare: Juan Pablo and I Did Not Have Sex in the Ocean
Feb 6, 2014 02:13 PM ET
by Robyn Ross
The Bachelor's Clare wants to make one thing clear about her "scandalous" late-night swim with Juan Pablo: They did not have sex.

On Monday's episode, the 32-year-old hairstylist — who had already received the group date rose — arrived at Juan Pablo's hotel room for a late-night swim. The two then frolicked into the ocean, where it was clear they were having a good time, albeit with their bathing suits on. But during the next cocktail party, Juan Pablo told Clare that they should have never done what they did, causing Clare to cry.

Now speaking out, Clare said on a conference call Thursday that not only did the two keep their time together that night PG, but she has no regrets.

The Bachelor's Chris Harrison: Juan Pablo didn't understand how cheap he made Clare feel

"I don't think it was made clear by anybody that that's not what happened ... that wasn't my intention going into it [and] everyone in the situation knows that's not what happened," Clare said. "I was doing something that was on my bucket list and I don't regret it, to this second, even after this outcome...I just want the reality of it to be out there and the truth to be out there instead of the short clips people are seeing. I wanted to be able to elaborate on that."

What Clare does question is Juan Pablo pulling her into his private pool for a swim while the other women were standing nearby during their group date. "Even just watching the episode, it still throws me off because I'm sitting here saying, 'What did we do wrong?' All the reasons he [gave] to me were [about] his daughter, but as you saw, he took me into his suite to go swimming in his pool. If anything, that to me is a little more questionable and I had doubts about that more so than the ocean. So it was unclear; there was no line drawn."

The Bachelor's Chris Harrison: Juan Pablo is sending mixed messages to the girls

Host Chris Harrison previously told TVGuide.com that he felt Juan Pablo was in the wrong. "It was not only confusing, but it was borderline rude," Harrison said. "He didn't see it that way. Even though he apologized later, I don't think he really understood how cheap he made her feel." When asked about his comments, Clare agreed with Harrison.

"I do agree with Chris Harrison. I think at the end of the day it's your delivery on what you say and I don't think that's a language barrier," she said. "I think it's how you choose to make a woman feel. ... You shouldn't make a woman cry whether it's right or wrong, and it was pretty bad at the time. He made me feel awful."

[Guest]

I can't get over how hilarious it is that Clare keeps saying swimming in the ocean is on her bucket list. I thought maybe I misheard her about that in the episode since I didn't see anyone mention it. But she's still saying it.

She lives in California! She's never been to the ocean in 30 some years? Never take a drive to the beach? Either this is just a big fat silly lie or to me is sooooo weird.   

[Guest]

MTE EXACTLY!! I was like "WTH..you live in Cali!!". It seems that she hasn't done much/tried much though. She does not try new foods that are different to her, she has never swam in the ocean, I believe she also said she does not know how to swim, and has never been to Disney until the other day. She apparently doesn't get out much...

[Aunties_Love]

Isn't the ocean in Cali cool and even cold? She made a deal about swimming in a warm ocean at night. That is what she said during the show, not just about swimming in an ocean.

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