Clare Crawley - Bachelor 18 Contestant - Spoilers - Discussion

ElonM wrote:I would love to see Clare on DWTS

That would be a really positive move for her. She would become know for something fun rather that girl not chosen, oceangate, etc.

notarose wrote:

ElonM wrote:I would love to see Clare on DWTS

That would be a really positive move for her. She would become know for something fun rather that girl not chosen, oceangate, etc.

Unfortunately for Clare if she is not on now, I don't think it will happen in the future. I can see them wanting her on BP 4 and it seems like Arie at least is already sniffing around her. I like Arie, but don't see that as a good combination. I am not a fan of the BP at all, but it did redeem Michelle Money's image, but truthfully she is the only person I have seen come out of that show looking better than they did going in.

I haven't been a Clare fan, but I thought standing up for herself was a bit of a positive step (wasn't a fan of the father line) and thought that she didn't want to relive it on AFTR was good. I don't know that BP is a positive step forward. I find most of the activities on that show highly demeaning.

stuckinsc wrote:

notarose wrote:

ElonM wrote:I would love to see Clare on DWTS

That would be a really positive move for her. She would become know for something fun rather that girl not chosen, oceangate, etc.

Unfortunately for Clare if she is not on now, I don't think it will happen in the future.  I can see them wanting her on BP 4 and it seems like Arie at least is already sniffing around her.  I like Arie, but don't see that as a good combination.  I am not a fan of the BP at all, but it did redeem Michelle Money's image, but truthfully she is the only person I have seen come out of that show looking better than they did going in.  

I haven't been a Clare fan, but I thought standing up for herself was a bit of a positive step (wasn't a fan of the father line) and thought that she didn't want to relive it on AFTR was good.  I don't know that BP is a positive step forward.  I find most of the activities on that show highly demeaning.

Not to worry, Arie's busy with his racing career and has no time for BP. On the other hand, 1F is still rolling around without a steady job and would just jump at the opportunity to be on BP.

This article captures my feelings on the Clare character (yes, I view everyone as a character on any reality TV show) on The Bachelor. We all fall down, sometime. It is not how hard you fall or how many times it happens, to me, what matters is refusing to stay down.


It's Never Too Late To Find Your Voice; Inside The Bachelor Backfire
Posted: 03/14/2014 1:26 pm EDT Updated: 03/14/2014 1:59 pm EDT Print Article

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While you can look at the popular ABC series, The Bachelor, as pop culture entertainment, it can also, surprisingly, provide some real life lessons. In this case, a dramatically unexpected finale that aired Monday night, gave women a liberating look at someone who had finally had enough, and had the courage to say so on national television, transforming her from a branded harlot to a burnished heroine in a matter of minutes

Clare had been positioned all season as the vixen and the villain, the over-sexed hussie who wouldn't play by the rules. She earned the disgust of the other girls and the disdain of viewers. But Claire persisted. While the "smart girls" (the assistant District Attorney and the international opera singer) resisted the Latin Lover's charms, deducing (amidst the allure and amore of the Fantasy Suite) that Juan Pablo had the abs of Adonis, but the intellect of an ant, while the more mundane finalists, the beautician, Clare, and the nurse, Nikki, hung in there.

While Nikki played the bland "good" girl, Clare snuck into Juan Pablo's suite for an added dose of "intimacy" because she was hoping "with an open heart" (among other things) that he was indeed, the man for her. Most women watching the show were ready to write her off, especially after their crucial final date, where he was anything but chivalrous.

But, in the final rose ceremony as we were poised to dismiss her, and apparently, so was Juan Pablo (he made lewd off camera comments), Clare too realized there was no "there there." She found her voice, and expressed what every objectified woman in America wished they had said at precisely that moment. With millions watching, and with no "woulda, coulda, shoulda," she just went for it: "After what you put me through, I would never want a man like you to be the father of my children." Clare set him in his place and in so doing established hers.

During a post finale live interview, when asked to explain why she allowed herself to play the doormat for so long ("Why did you hang in there?" asked host, Chris Harrison). Without any irony, she replied that she was committed to letting her full guard down for the first time and hoping that he was the man she wanted. She followed up by saying, "That day was pivotal for me - I had never been able to stand up for myself - so many women can relate to that - you give it chance after chance. It was so liberating to stand there and say, 'This is exactly how I feel, and it's not okay' - that was my closure - that was all I needed!"

The working girl wowed us with her courage and candor, she stood firm and now stands for women who stand up for themselves. Better late than never!


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julychild wrote:This article captures my feelings on the Clare character (yes, I view everyone as a character on any reality TV show) on The Bachelor. We all fall down, sometime. It is not how hard you fall or how many times it happens, to me, what matters is refusing to stay down.  


It's Never Too Late To Find Your Voice; Inside The Bachelor Backfire
Posted: 03/14/2014 1:26 pm EDT Updated: 03/14/2014 1:59 pm EDT Print Article

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MORE: Juan Pablo Galavis Television Reality TV The Bachelor Romance Chris Harrison the Bachelor ABC Pop Culture Chris Harrison Entertainment News

While you can look at the popular ABC series, The Bachelor, as pop culture entertainment, it can also, surprisingly, provide some real life lessons. In this case, a dramatically unexpected finale that aired Monday night, gave women a liberating look at someone who had finally had enough, and had the courage to say so on national television, transforming her from a branded harlot to a burnished heroine in a matter of minutes

Clare had been positioned all season as the vixen and the villain, the over-sexed hussie who wouldn't play by the rules. She earned the disgust of the other girls and the disdain of viewers. But Claire persisted. While the "smart girls" (the assistant District Attorney and the international opera singer) resisted the Latin Lover's charms, deducing (amidst the allure and amore of the Fantasy Suite) that Juan Pablo had the abs of Adonis, but the intellect of an ant, while the more mundane finalists, the beautician, Clare, and the nurse, Nikki, hung in there.

While Nikki played the bland "good" girl, Clare snuck into Juan Pablo's suite for an added dose of "intimacy" because she was hoping "with an open heart" (among other things) that he was indeed, the man for her. Most women watching the show were ready to write her off, especially after their crucial final date, where he was anything but chivalrous.

But, in the final rose ceremony as we were poised to dismiss her, and apparently, so was Juan Pablo (he made lewd off camera comments), Clare too realized there was no "there there." She found her voice, and expressed what every objectified woman in America wished they had said at precisely that moment. With millions watching, and with no "woulda, coulda, shoulda," she just went for it: "After what you put me through, I would never want a man like you to be the father of my children." Clare set him in his place and in so doing established hers.

During a post finale live interview, when asked to explain why she allowed herself to play the doormat for so long ("Why did you hang in there?" asked host, Chris Harrison). Without any irony, she replied that she was committed to letting her full guard down for the first time and hoping that he was the man she wanted. She followed up by saying, "That day was pivotal for me - I had never been able to stand up for myself - so many women can relate to that - you give it chance after chance. It was so liberating to stand there and say, 'This is exactly how I feel, and it's not okay' - that was my closure - that was all I needed!"

The working girl wowed us with her courage and candor, she stood firm and now stands for women who stand up for themselves. Better late than never!


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Obviously the writer found need to slam JPG and call Clare a "working girl" to make her point but putting that aside, the best takeaway is that Clare did do well for herself by realizing she had equal power and needs that should be met in a relationship; that walking away isn't a symbol of heartlessness but that her open heart is better suited elsewhere.

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stuckinsc wrote:

notarose wrote:

ElonM wrote:I would love to see Clare on DWTS

That would be a really positive move for her. She would become know for something fun rather that girl not chosen, oceangate, etc.

Unfortunately for Clare if she is not on now, I don't think it will happen in the future.  I can see them wanting her on BP 4 and it seems like Arie at least is already sniffing around her.  I like Arie, but don't see that as a good combination.  I am not a fan of the BP at all, but it did redeem Michelle Money's image, but truthfully she is the only person I have seen come out of that show looking better than they did going in.  

I haven't been a Clare fan, but I thought standing up for herself was a bit of a positive step (wasn't a fan of the father line) and thought that she didn't want to relive it on AFTR was good.  I don't know that BP is a positive step forward.  I find most of the activities on that show highly demeaning.

Not to worry, Arie's busy with his racing career and has no time for BP. On the other hand, 1F is still rolling around without a steady job and would just jump at the opportunity to be on BP.

I like Arie and i'm glad he won't join BP. It's a trainwreck show.

One point though, Clare did not walk away. She was sent away.

iamreal2u wrote:One point though, Clare did not walk away.  She was sent away.

Juan Pablo was supposed to walk her out, and she refused.

dw_a_mom wrote:

iamreal2u wrote:One point though, Clare did not walk away.  She was sent away.

Juan Pablo was supposed to walk her out, and she refused.

True.

julychild wrote:This article captures my feelings on the Clare character (yes, I view everyone as a character on any reality TV show) on The Bachelor. We all fall down, sometime. It is not how hard you fall or how many times it happens, to me, what matters is refusing to stay down.  


It's Never Too Late To Find Your Voice; Inside The Bachelor Backfire
Posted: 03/14/2014 1:26 pm EDT Updated: 03/14/2014 1:59 pm EDT Print Article

Share on Google+
MORE: Juan Pablo Galavis Television Reality TV The Bachelor Romance Chris Harrison the Bachelor ABC Pop Culture Chris Harrison Entertainment News

While you can look at the popular ABC series, The Bachelor, as pop culture entertainment, it can also, surprisingly, provide some real life lessons. In this case, a dramatically unexpected finale that aired Monday night, gave women a liberating look at someone who had finally had enough, and had the courage to say so on national television, transforming her from a branded harlot to a burnished heroine in a matter of minutes

Clare had been positioned all season as the vixen and the villain, the over-sexed hussie who wouldn't play by the rules. She earned the disgust of the other girls and the disdain of viewers. But Claire persisted. While the "smart girls" (the assistant District Attorney and the international opera singer) resisted the Latin Lover's charms, deducing (amidst the allure and amore of the Fantasy Suite) that Juan Pablo had the abs of Adonis, but the intellect of an ant, while the more mundane finalists, the beautician, Clare, and the nurse, Nikki, hung in there.

While Nikki played the bland "good" girl, Clare snuck into Juan Pablo's suite for an added dose of "intimacy" because she was hoping "with an open heart" (among other things) that he was indeed, the man for her. Most women watching the show were ready to write her off, especially after their crucial final date, where he was anything but chivalrous.

But, in the final rose ceremony as we were poised to dismiss her, and apparently, so was Juan Pablo (he made lewd off camera comments), Clare too realized there was no "there there." She found her voice, and expressed what every objectified woman in America wished they had said at precisely that moment. With millions watching, and with no "woulda, coulda, shoulda," she just went for it: "After what you put me through, I would never want a man like you to be the father of my children." Clare set him in his place and in so doing established hers.

During a post finale live interview, when asked to explain why she allowed herself to play the doormat for so long ("Why did you hang in there?" asked host, Chris Harrison). Without any irony, she replied that she was committed to letting her full guard down for the first time and hoping that he was the man she wanted. She followed up by saying, "That day was pivotal for me - I had never been able to stand up for myself - so many women can relate to that - you give it chance after chance. It was so liberating to stand there and say, 'This is exactly how I feel, and it's not okay' - that was my closure - that was all I needed!"

The working girl wowed us with her courage and candor, she stood firm and now stands for women who stand up for themselves. Better late than never!


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/tamara-jacobs/its-never-too-late-to-fin_1_b_4960502.html?utm_medium=referral&utm_source=t.co

LOL...Clare declared herself captain of a sunken ship. What an achievement !

Once she lost what she's been running after all show long, she says that in fact she realized she doesn't want it anymore...laughable but not really commendable !!!

I don't hate Clare for being upset, JPG did lead her on the night of LCD. And I am not willing to say that it was because producers made him, since he didn't do many things the producers wanted. I can see her being upset when he talked about her being pregnant and such.

My feelings were that Juan Pablo really wanted to keep dating them both ala Charlie, he said it at one point and CH said no, though the edit made it sound like a joke. I think he did have some feelings for Clare and much like Andy with Bevin, got caught up in trying to make her feel better.

I could have done without the comment about never wanting him to be the father of her children, but I was okay with her anger and not wanting him to walk her out and I actually thought she didn't really harp on his behavior at the AFTR, but rather talked about being proud of herself for finally standing up for herself.

I am in no way a Clare fan (except for her beauty), but I had no problem with her behavior at the FRC or AFTR. I wish she would have held onto her anger at the LCD, she let him off the hook to easily for offending her.

Love this girl! The GMA interview- she kept it classy and I'm happy she has a new man in her life-I wonder if that's who is in Colarado