Final Rose Ceremony - Screencaps - Thread #2
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Re: Final Rose Ceremony - Screencaps - Thread #2
Rosepetal wrote:I don't know if this helps but I edited out all the scene changes and put together GSG who I believe is JP scenes with Ashley. The sun is low on her face and arms and it looks to me like JP is moving around to propose not walking away. Notice Ashley hardly opers her mouth so I think GSG is doing the talking.
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That is helpful, Rosepetal. I still don't see why he'd walk away to propose and I think the sun is actually high on her head. They have a mark that they're supposed to stay on. The only moving is done when the lead moves them around. Another interpretation could be that Ashley turned him down and he's replying right before he walks away.
Ironcat, of course they were going for the "she ends up alone" look in the preview but it doesn't mean that all was well in those shots and wouldn't be if he were the f2 guy. I think there's still some doubt about what happens there. Maybe it's all a fakeout but I don't think we can say with a certainty.
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albean, are you saying you think both guys walk away from her? Or you think this might be the one we see her chase after who we originally thought was DSG?
Sorry, this is all very confusing since the lead always walks with F2 out and then twirls with the F1. This is whole everyone walking away thing is blowing my mind! lol
Sorry, this is all very confusing since the lead always walks with F2 out and then twirls with the F1. This is whole everyone walking away thing is blowing my mind! lol
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I haven't seen anything that shows DSG (Ben?) walking away, Noobsleuth, but we have seen GSG (JP?) walk past Ashley. The shot of the guy leaving could be either guy and there's nothing to tie it to Ben over JP imo. GSG's suit could be dark gray so is similar looking to the other guy's suit.
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Re: Final Rose Ceremony - Screencaps - Thread #2
Rosepetal wrote:I don't know if this helps but I edited out all the scene changes and put together GSG who I believe is JP scenes with Ashley. The sun is low on her face and arms and it looks to me like JP is moving around to propose not walking away. Notice Ashley hardly opers her mouth so I think GSG is doing the talking.
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In my mind, it can go either way, and I have no way of knowing or even guessing.
He could be walking away.....and we see anguish on her face.
OR....he could be declaring his love/proposing, and that's the look of happy tears.
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Who say this is JP?? until the end no one knows who this is.
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realityfan26 wrote:nutty1 wrote:
I think Albean is correct...I do not think any of these are flipped. So what does that change our minds about? That GSG is walking away from her?
I'm terrible at all of the shadow analysis, so I don't know what it means either!
I did notice that Dreamer has this cap that shows the inside of Ashley's wrist. You can't see Ashley's tattoo, so I think its her left wrist, which would confirm the SC isn't flipped. Does anyone have the slo-mo of that scene to double check that the tattoo isn't just cut off in the SC?
I made a really slow motion version of just the final rose ceremony part of the season preview from San's video. The part where we see her wrist occurs at about 2:50. It doesn't look like she has a tattoo on that wrist, so it seems the screen captures aren't flipped.
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LuvnIt wrote: You all are speaking up thread of Ashley's tattoo and I believe that someone did verify earlier on that Ashley's tattoo is on her right wrist.
Call me crazy, but now I wonder if any of the FRC SC we have seen are of JP. I am wondering this because of the difference in height between JP and some of the other guys and Ash. When she runs it appears she has on high heels. Now just how high is unknown to me. But, look at the height difference between Ash and JP in this SC and then compare with the FRC SCs. To me all the SCs show a guy who is taller than JP. JMO
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Thx. for this video!
For the life of me, I see a GSG in only a very small portion of the preview - most, to my eyes, seems to be shots of someone in a dark suit. I could certainly see why people would think GSG is about to get into position to propose.
I am hoping that TPTB aren't so intent on drama that they purposely arranged for a chopper to scoot Ben (F2?) off without giving Ashley any chance to speak with him. But I guess for them to be culpable here, it would mean they would've had to prearrange things with Ben, which they wouldn't do for an FRC. I'm both hoping and dreading that Ben is so hurt he can't speak --- I will be upset if he says anything vindictive, doesn't seem to fit with his persona. I could almost see him leaving in silence a la Bevin. I also hope Ashley didn't experience another instance of hoof-in-mouth disease.... that he's reacting merely to the rejection rather than to the way she handles it.
OT: I think the shots of Ashley at the FRC are some of the loveliest we've had of her... looks very very pretty.
For the life of me, I see a GSG in only a very small portion of the preview - most, to my eyes, seems to be shots of someone in a dark suit. I could certainly see why people would think GSG is about to get into position to propose.
I am hoping that TPTB aren't so intent on drama that they purposely arranged for a chopper to scoot Ben (F2?) off without giving Ashley any chance to speak with him. But I guess for them to be culpable here, it would mean they would've had to prearrange things with Ben, which they wouldn't do for an FRC. I'm both hoping and dreading that Ben is so hurt he can't speak --- I will be upset if he says anything vindictive, doesn't seem to fit with his persona. I could almost see him leaving in silence a la Bevin. I also hope Ashley didn't experience another instance of hoof-in-mouth disease.... that he's reacting merely to the rejection rather than to the way she handles it.
OT: I think the shots of Ashley at the FRC are some of the loveliest we've had of her... looks very very pretty.
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pavalygurl wrote:LuvnIt wrote: You all are speaking up thread of Ashley's tattoo and I believe that someone did verify earlier on that Ashley's tattoo is on her right wrist.
Call me crazy, but now I wonder if any of the FRC SC we have seen are of JP. I am wondering this because of the difference in height between JP and some of the other guys and Ash. When she runs it appears she has on high heels. Now just how high is unknown to me. But, look at the height difference between Ash and JP in this SC and then compare with the FRC SCs. To me all the SCs show a guy who is taller than JP. JMO
you said what I was thinking to me the suit I see in the sc are really dark, but i thought I was just crazy :Nod:
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reason wrote:Who say this is JP?? until the end no one knows who this is.
I think all these SCs show a guy/guys???too tall to be JP. Craaaazy idea but what if who we are calling GSG is Ryan who comes back and proposes?????
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Thanks so much for that slo-mo! I think it will be very helpful.
It appears to me that the last sequence in the slo-mo is entirely different from the rest of the shots at the podium and looks more like she is standing where she is in tears talking about how unfair it is. The sun is shining strongly on the back of her hair so she is facing a different direction, but more importantly there is a tree/shrub on the left side of the screen. I can't see any such thing or shadow of one at the podium area.
Also, at this slow speed, it looks to me that she is looking at this man with great love in her eyes as he walks past her and that she may be just beginning to smile where the film cuts.
It appears to me that the last sequence in the slo-mo is entirely different from the rest of the shots at the podium and looks more like she is standing where she is in tears talking about how unfair it is. The sun is shining strongly on the back of her hair so she is facing a different direction, but more importantly there is a tree/shrub on the left side of the screen. I can't see any such thing or shadow of one at the podium area.
Also, at this slow speed, it looks to me that she is looking at this man with great love in her eyes as he walks past her and that she may be just beginning to smile where the film cuts.
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glazedover wrote: Thanks so much for that slo-mo! I think it will be very helpful.
It appears to me that the last sequence in the slo-mo is entirely different from the rest of the shots at the podium and looks more like she is standing where she is in tears talking about how unfair it is. The sun is shining strongly on the back of her hair so she is facing a different direction, but more importantly there is a tree/shrub on the left side of the screen. I can't see any such thing or shadow of one at the podium area.
Also, at this slow speed, it looks to me that she is looking at this man with great love in her eyes as he walks past her and that she may be just beginning to smile where the film cuts.
You're right! Never noticed that tree before. Good job!! and
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