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Post by gurlbrit Wed Jul 06, 2011 8:55 pm

Fleurdesel wrote:
mnmhughes wrote:
nd4reality wrote:Living - thanks for all your efforts. I am unable to understand the interpretation though.

From what I understand, Ben does not show up at sunset, which is the optimal time for proposals on this show. :yes:

No, au contraire, BSG is stepping out of the plane and the shadow is showing that its mid-afternoon, at least the way I understand and see it... Great job Living..too bad, you can get us all in one room, it would be much easier, laugh out loud

I think what Living is trying to say is that DSG (BSG) who everyone believes is Ben arrives around 4pm by the shadows and that sunset was at 5:47pm that day, Ben's arrival would be way too late for GSG (who we think is JP) to arrive for a sunset proposal.
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Post by Fleurdesel Wed Jul 06, 2011 9:11 pm

gurlbrit wrote:
Fleurdesel wrote:
mnmhughes wrote:
nd4reality wrote:Living - thanks for all your efforts. I am unable to understand the interpretation though.

From what I understand, Ben does not show up at sunset, which is the optimal time for proposals on this show. :yes:

No, au contraire, BSG is stepping out of the plane and the shadow is showing that its mid-afternoon, at least the way I understand and see it... Great job Living..too bad, you can get us all in one room, it would be much easier, laugh out loud

I think what Living is trying to say is that DSG (BSG) who everyone believes is Ben arrives around 4pm by the shadows and that sunset was at 5:47pm that day, Ben's arrival would be way too late for GSG (who we think is JP) to arrive for a sunset proposal.

Yes, that is what I understood...that's why it would be good to compare GSG shadow to confirm. Beader seems to have estimated an earlier arrival so I guess we'll see!
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Post by Samantharose Wed Jul 06, 2011 9:24 pm

Fleurdesel wrote:
gurlbrit wrote:
Fleurdesel wrote:
mnmhughes wrote:
nd4reality wrote:Living - thanks for all your efforts. I am unable to understand the interpretation though.

From what I understand, Ben does not show up at sunset, which is the optimal time for proposals on this show. :yes:

No, au contraire, BSG is stepping out of the plane and the shadow is showing that its mid-afternoon, at least the way I understand and see it... Great job Living..too bad, you can get us all in one room, it would be much easier, laugh out loud

I think what Living is trying to say is that DSG (BSG) who everyone believes is Ben arrives around 4pm by the shadows and that sunset was at 5:47pm that day, Ben's arrival would be way too late for GSG (who we think is JP) to arrive for a sunset proposal.

Yes, that is what I understood...that's why it would be good to compare GSG shadow to confirm. Beader seems to have estimated an earlier arrival so I guess we'll see!

Aye yi yi... Now I'm more confused than ever. :greenman:
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Post by Guest Wed Jul 06, 2011 9:39 pm

Living wrote:1) I maintain that the SC of BSG is flipped. These are the reasons why.

1) Unless the RC was at 10am in the morning then this picture was taken in the afternoon.
2) The sea planes have their door to the left of the plane. It is easier to switch watch than to change the position of the door of the plane.
3) You will notice from the pink and blue stripes along the foot of the sea plane that at the front of the plane, the stripes are broader and they narrow as it gets to the tail. The SC of BSC shows him walking toward the narrow end to land. The back of the plane. So the plane is facing the sea as in my previous post with the example of helicopter SC.
4) Though there is the plane so the shadow rises, you can see from the water and the angle of where the sunlight catches BSG that the time is about 4pm. Sunset on that day was 5.47.

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The image was absolutely NOT flipped. We see the word Fiji on the plane in the video where this screencap was taken.
This cap shows the beginning of the word. The shadow info is beyond my brain's capabilities at the moment - sorry!
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Post by noobsleuth Wed Jul 06, 2011 10:19 pm

See I am not seeing the difference between a say 2pm shadow and a 4pm shadow. Here you can see the reflection of the sun in his shoe and it still appears high in the sky. JMO

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Post by happyvalleygirl Wed Jul 06, 2011 10:25 pm

Agreed. We don't have many SC to make decisions off of. I also don't know why dsg couldn't be in the morning? Bevin said her RC
Was in the morning. That's when she knew things weren't looking good for her. Just saying I am keeping options open till there are afew more screen caps to go from. Jmo
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Post by albean99 Wed Jul 06, 2011 10:48 pm

noobsleuth wrote:See I am not seeing the difference between a say 2pm shadow and a 4pm shadow. Here you can see the reflection of the sun in his shoe and it still appears high in the sky. JMO

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It's not clear if that's sun or not because we know they were using lights to film in one of the SC's plus if it was early there wouldn't be the side shadow in the other shots.

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If this is still BSG it appears to be later in the day because the sun appears to be shining only on her right shoulder/back area and his arms. The rest is in shadow. I wish we could see their shadows on the ground.


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Post by Guest Wed Jul 06, 2011 10:55 pm

albean99 wrote:
noobsleuth wrote:See I am not seeing the difference between a say 2pm shadow and a 4pm shadow. Here you can see the reflection of the sun in his shoe and it still appears high in the sky. JMO

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It's not clear if that's sun or not because we know they were using lights to film in one of the SC's plus if it was early there wouldn't be the side shadow in the other shots.

Final Rose Ceremony - Screencaps - Thread #2 - Page 39 51091335

If this is still BSG it appears to be later in the day because the sun appears to be shining only on her right shoulder/back area and his arms. The rest is in shadow. I wish we could see their shadows on the ground.



So are we assuming the BSG is Ben and the GSG is JP.........if that is the case, then wouldn't it be right to assume that Ben is the F1 considering the shadows??

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Post by nutty1 Wed Jul 06, 2011 10:57 pm

Coastal wrote:
albean99 wrote:
noobsleuth wrote:See I am not seeing the difference between a say 2pm shadow and a 4pm shadow. Here you can see the reflection of the sun in his shoe and it still appears high in the sky. JMO

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It's not clear if that's sun or not because we know they were using lights to film in one of the SC's plus if it was early there wouldn't be the side shadow in the other shots.

Final Rose Ceremony - Screencaps - Thread #2 - Page 39 51091335

If this is still BSG it appears to be later in the day because the sun appears to be shining only on her right shoulder/back area and his arms. The rest is in shadow. I wish we could see their shadows on the ground.



So are we assuming the BSG is Ben and the GSG is JP.........if that is the case, then wouldn't it be right to assume that Ben is the F1 considering the shadows??

I think the majority think that is Ben in bottom pic (thumbs).
Never been good at sun/shadows though. (but I did examine them like crazy in Tessa's FRC pictures, LOL!)


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Post by rc49ers Wed Jul 06, 2011 11:04 pm

Doesn't Ben have a slightly larger Built than JP ? I thought JP was leaner looking in the Tux episode , ii'm probably wrong though . 😕
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Post by noobsleuth Wed Jul 06, 2011 11:12 pm

albean99 wrote:
noobsleuth wrote:See I am not seeing the difference between a say 2pm shadow and a 4pm shadow. Here you can see the reflection of the sun in his shoe and it still appears high in the sky. JMO

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It's not clear if that's sun or not because we know they were using lights to film in one of the SC's plus if it was early there wouldn't be the side shadow in the other shots.

Final Rose Ceremony - Screencaps - Thread #2 - Page 39 51091335

If this is still BSG it appears to be later in the day because the sun appears to be shining only on her right shoulder/back area and his arms. The rest is in shadow. I wish we could see their shadows on the ground.



Agreed studying the length of the shadows is what helped us last season. Perhaps later on we will see the F2 (head and all laugh out loud) arriving at the FRC. At this point all of the SC's are looking the same no no
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Post by pbmax Wed Jul 06, 2011 11:32 pm

One question, where is the podium for the rose. I don't recall seeing one.
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