Re: Brooks Forester - Bachelorette 9 - Fan Thread - Discussion #5

[Piper61]

There is a poster on Pintrest who has a "Brooks" board. It has pictures I'm not sure everyone has seen. Maybe someone can put them in the picture thread when it is opened. [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]

Thanks for sharing, Mustang! I like her Brooks board.  

[atem]

Did people not read that Nate said that Desiree is happy and probably will get married sooner than next Summer?

[Guest]

Where? What's the tweet? The conference starts on the 19th. It's kind of early.

Dude gets a lot of time off work all the time.

There are some who think he doesn't have a real job....just sayin'! :shocked!: 

Sometimes it makes you wonder. Or at least his job description involves being out of the office and traveling a lot.

[Piper61]

Did people not read that Nate said that Desiree is happy and probably will get married sooner than next Summer?

Yep, read that, and believe if she's marrying for the "right reasons" and she's happy, then all the best and much happiness to her and Chris!

[nannymargie]

Did people not read that Nate said that Desiree is happy and probably will get married sooner than next Summer?

Atem why do you keep thinking people do not read. Yes I read that.

[atem]

Where? What's the tweet? The conference starts on the 19th. It's kind of early.

Dude gets a lot of time off work all the time.

There are some who think he doesn't have a real job....just sayin'! :shocked!: 

Sometimes it makes you wonder. Or at least his job description involves being out of the office and traveling a lot.

Makes you wonder what?

[noobsleuth]

In Munich when he walked down the ice tunnel and came across her making out and rolling around with James (gross), I thought he was done at some level (on a second viewing).  Go watch that as well.  By Barcelona, Chris intensity is rising, and Brooks is fading (his feelings, not hers).  Who wouldn't be "over it" sitting around talking incessantly about that snippet of conversation Drew and Kasey over-heard in the van or whatever.  I saw Brooks starting to "lose it" -- also, look at how she handled the James thing.  Talk about wishy washy.  I'm not criticizing either of them -- it's just one of the "downs"  I think Brooks experienced in the long long drought between the Hollywood sign date and CLoud 9 in Madeira.   Each of these shows represents about a week of his life
1. Hollywood sign (feels great)
2. Nothing much
3. Dodgeball (broken finger, Chris gets the group date rose -- look at his face then)
4. Munich (Chris/Bryden show -- watches her make out with James)
5. Barcelona -- soccer date, not much time with her 1:1, but tons of gross drama and back and fro about James 



6. Madeira -- trying to regain lost ground, decides to use family visit as a test (the "struggle" is apparent in almost every screen shot if you look)
7.  HTD - freely confesses by the duck pond that he is up and down, and loses "it" when they are apart.  Des warmly embraced and received by family.  But hard questions that hang in the air.
[some internal processing / discussions off camera / decides to get out before the pressure of proposing becomes unbearable]

That's Brooks' journey.  I think he showed a lot of character and self-awareness. And, as an aside, he would never trash Chris or Des, his friends, the way some do for sport.  

People always want to say the producers and editors lie.  And they do in the smaller settings -- to participants playing the "game" of the show, etc., but most of the time the Mega Story Arc for each character tracks their actual emotional journey.  That's what the production assistants are madly logging all day long (who said what on camera, on date, in a group, ITM), and then the story folks make it into an entertainment for us to watch.

 I do think that was a turning point for Brooks. If she was even remotely interested in James, Brooks had to question her romantic tastes since he was sooooo far from James in personality. I think he became less confident in Des at that point, as far as sharing the same ideals in a relationship.

I, too, think the same thing about how seeing James and Des kissing like that in the ice igloo impacted him.  I mentioned it before on the thread, and also had wondered during the actual filming if the James alone time was before or after Brooks' alone time.  I don't think it would make much dfference, but we did see how she pulled Brooks in for a passionate kiss while he was in mid-sentence.  That kiss, along with all of the James drama, and her keeping James around for the RC after they were all certain she would send him home had to be disconcerting and confusing.  

I think.... that Des was so wrapped up n being the "bachelorette" that at the beginning she lost sight of why she was there. I know I'm not the only one who thought that in the beginning of the show she spread herself too thin. I could never tell which guys she really liked because she was making out with all of them. It was hard for me to see much difference between her kisses with Brooks and Bryden in episode 1 and from there she went on to makeout with pretty much everyone else she had a 1 on 1 date with, not to mention several guys back to back on group dates. She was so worried about giving every relationship a chance that the one she clearly wanted from the beginning she let slip away because of it. I remember when Graham told Deanna that he didn't want to be one in a bunch and she was annoyed because it was her time to figure out what she wanted. She pretty much told him that she couldn't do that for him at that time (she was indeed the Bette after all) and again, after his first 1 on 1 date and her refusal to give him special treatment, he began to slip away, and then he left.

If you go back and look at the Bachelor seasons you can see where the Bach gives special treatment to his F1. With Brad and Emily it was the picnic, Ben and Jake both took their F1s to special, secretive spots... Ben even went skinny dipping with his! If Des had it bad for Brooks, she had an odd way of showing him that he was special to her.

[sgjsnow]

In Munich when he walked down the ice tunnel and came across her making out and rolling around with James (gross), I thought he was done at some level (on a second viewing).  Go watch that as well.  By Barcelona, Chris intensity is rising, and Brooks is fading (his feelings, not hers).  Who wouldn't be "over it" sitting around talking incessantly about that snippet of conversation Drew and Kasey over-heard in the van or whatever.  I saw Brooks starting to "lose it" -- also, look at how she handled the James thing.  Talk about wishy washy.  I'm not criticizing either of them -- it's just one of the "downs"  I think Brooks experienced in the long long drought between the Hollywood sign date and CLoud 9 in Madeira.   Each of these shows represents about a week of his life
1. Hollywood sign (feels great)
2. Nothing much
3. Dodgeball (broken finger, Chris gets the group date rose -- look at his face then)
4. Munich (Chris/Bryden show -- watches her make out with James)
5. Barcelona -- soccer date, not much time with her 1:1, but tons of gross drama and back and fro about James 



6. Madeira -- trying to regain lost ground, decides to use family visit as a test (the "struggle" is apparent in almost every screen shot if you look)
7.  HTD - freely confesses by the duck pond that he is up and down, and loses "it" when they are apart.  Des warmly embraced and received by family.  But hard questions that hang in the air.
[some internal processing / discussions off camera / decides to get out before the pressure of proposing becomes unbearable]

That's Brooks' journey.  I think he showed a lot of character and self-awareness. And, as an aside, he would never trash Chris or Des, his friends, the way some do for sport.  

People always want to say the producers and editors lie.  And they do in the smaller settings -- to participants playing the "game" of the show, etc., but most of the time the Mega Story Arc for each character tracks their actual emotional journey.  That's what the production assistants are madly logging all day long (who said what on camera, on date, in a group, ITM), and then the story folks make it into an entertainment for us to watch.

 I do think that was a turning point for Brooks. If she was even remotely interested in James, Brooks had to question her romantic tastes since he was sooooo far from James in personality. I think he became less confident in Des at that point, as far as sharing the same ideals in a relationship.

I, too, think the same thing about how seeing James and Des kissing like that in the ice igloo impacted him.  I mentioned it before on the thread, and also had wondered during the actual filming if the James alone time was before or after Brooks' alone time.  I don't think it would make much dfference, but we did see how she pulled Brooks in for a passionate kiss while he was in mid-sentence.  That kiss, along with all of the James drama, and her keeping James around for the RC after they were all certain she would send him home had to be disconcerting and confusing.  

I think.... that Des was so wrapped up n being the "bachelorette" that at the beginning she lost sight of why she was there. I know I'm not the only one who thought that in the beginning of the show she spread herself too thin. I could never tell which guys she really liked because she was making out with all of them. It was hard for me to see much difference between her kisses with Brooks and Bryden in episode 1 and from there she went on to makeout with pretty much everyone else she had a 1 on 1 date with, not to mention several guys back to back on group dates. She was so worried about giving every relationship a chance that the one she clearly wanted from the beginning she let slip away because of it. I remember when Graham told Deanna that he didn't want to be one in a bunch and she was annoyed because it was her time to figure out what she wanted. She pretty much told him that she couldn't do that for him at that time (she was indeed the Bette after all) and again, after his first 1 on 1 date and her refusal to give him special treatment, he began to slip away, and then he left.

If you go back and look at the Bachelor seasons you can see where the Bach gives special treatment to his F1. With Brad and Emily it was the picnic, Ben and Jake both took their F1s to special, secretive spots... Ben even went skinny dipping with his! If Des had it bad for Brooks, she had an odd way of showing him that he was special to her.

Yep that is odd. Des did take Chris to her room and wrote him poems/did sketches. Maybe that was a sign that he was the F1 all along.

[Guest]

If Chris was her F1 all along it is so odd that she was in love with and pining over Brooks, then. She makes no sense. Man, if I had been her Brooks would've gotten nothing but special treatment from me. To heck with being fair. I would've never let him slip away.

Her loss, gladly; the world's gain. I don't think she could "hang" with him, after all.

[Kashathediva]

In Munich when he walked down the ice tunnel and came across her making out and rolling around with James (gross), I thought he was done at some level (on a second viewing).  Go watch that as well.  By Barcelona, Chris intensity is rising, and Brooks is fading (his feelings, not hers).  Who wouldn't be "over it" sitting around talking incessantly about that snippet of conversation Drew and Kasey over-heard in the van or whatever.  I saw Brooks starting to "lose it" -- also, look at how she handled the James thing.  Talk about wishy washy.  I'm not criticizing either of them -- it's just one of the "downs"  I think Brooks experienced in the long long drought between the Hollywood sign date and CLoud 9 in Madeira.   Each of these shows represents about a week of his life
1. Hollywood sign (feels great)
2. Nothing much
3. Dodgeball (broken finger, Chris gets the group date rose -- look at his face then)
4. Munich (Chris/Bryden show -- watches her make out with James)
5. Barcelona -- soccer date, not much time with her 1:1, but tons of gross drama and back and fro about James
6. Madeira -- trying to regain lost ground, decides to use family visit as a test (the "struggle" is apparent in almost every screen shot if you look)
7.  HTD - freely confesses by the duck pond that he is up and down, and loses "it" when they are apart.  Des warmly embraced and received by family.  But hard questions that hang in the air.
[some internal processing / discussions off camera / decides to get out before the pressure of proposing becomes unbearable]

That's Brooks' journey.  I think he showed a lot of character and self-awareness. And, as an aside, he would never trash Chris or Des, his friends, the way some do for sport.  

People always want to say the producers and editors lie.  And they do in the smaller settings -- to participants playing the "game" of the show, etc., but most of the time the Mega Story Arc for each character tracks their actual emotional journey.  That's what the production assistants are madly logging all day long (who said what on camera, on date, in a group, ITM), and then the story folks make it into an entertainment for us to watch.

The show's own producers and spokesperson trash people for sport.  Brooks' process was an interesting story, but we as viewers really didn't get to see it.  Plus, Desiree and Chris H made Brooks out to be the one that didn't communicate when it was Desiree herself that didn't.  She was the one to want to make out and not talk.  He's always been a nice guy to me and I never got the trashing he got here just because he's from Utah.  The show should let the guys tell their side of the story, but they wait until it's too late and there's a reason why they don't.  I do believe the show planted false stories to re-inforce the 'Brooks comes back' storyline, because they thought it would bring in the ratings.  I'm glad it didn't pan out that way and got less viewers than last year's season.

I sincerely hope this is not what you really believe. I can not recall any poster trashing anyone because of the state anyone comes from--or country for that matter.  

[nannymargie]

Isn't it funny how Des' final 3 guys all did modeling? I don't remember any models on the other bachette's.

[Guest]

Brooks' Instagram:

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