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Post by sfrank Tue Aug 06, 2013 4:43 pm

^^^ She is telling the media is was two weeks between Brooks exist and the proposal which makes me sad for Chris because he knows that that is NOT true. Just own it and move on with your lives together. You guys look great together and happy! Don't sell lies.
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Post by Piper61 Tue Aug 06, 2013 5:00 pm

Lievta wrote:
relaxing wrote:Have to pipe up to say something I've said before, but Brooks fans can't be just painted as people following the spoilers and wanting to root for the winner and ignoring or dismissing the sleuthing.  That's not fair. I almost never root for the spoiled F1, they usually aren't my favorite but Brooks happened to be both.

I fell in love with his character, one of my fave's ever, and I loved watching Des fall for him - which she did.  That's a fact.  So spoilers or not, I would have been the die-hard Bres fan that I was.  Wanting Des to end up in love and with the guy that I was most into.  They're story made the season for me, along Zak and some of the fun group dates.  I could never get into her relationships with Chris or Drew.  I wish her and Chris well.  But without the spoiler, or with a spoiler of Chris F1, I would still have been 100% on the Bres train.

Also, I love the sleuthing. My favorite part of this board.  Don't know why you can't be a fan of the spoiled F1 and still appreciative of sleuthing.  They're not mutually exclusive.

I have never posted before, but have been a lurker for a very long time. I just wanted to echo relaxing's note above. Although I really liked Chris (loved his 1st night limo exit) and Drew (loved his sweetness and defense of Des), I was very drawn to Brooks due to his dates with Des. Chris and Drew are more my type physically, but Brooks is more my type cerebrally. Clearly, we never know what insights the cutting-room-floor conversations between the lead and his/her suitors contained, but to me, Brooks thoughts seemed more direct as to what he was looking for in a life partner. They seemed deeper from the get-go - like he was trying to see if she was a good fit for him as well rather than just trying to impress her.

Both Brooks & Des said they lived in the moment as much as they could on the show. It was in those moments that I believe Brooks was in love with Des. If you have any doubt about his feelings for her, all you have to do is re-watch the "skipping, jogging, running, finish line" date. Look at the smile on Brooks' face when she responds to his question about where she thinks they are on that scale and she says, "I'm running." If that smile does not reflect the look of a man in love and happy with her response, I don't know what is.

Although I'm disappointed that the love story that I saw begin with their first date didn't have staying power, I applaud Brooks for being honest with Des in Antigua. It showed character to go to her, knowing he was going to hurt her, and not back down simply because it was going to be heart-wrenching. Regardless of what people here think of him (and some of the comments have been harsh), the man has courage and follows a strong moral compass.

Last night, both Des and Brooks seemed to accept their fate as a couple, which took some of the sting out of what I'd hoped would be the outcome of this season.  I want to believe she doesn't still love him - for Chris' sake. So, I'm just going to focus on Chris' love for her (which I don't doubt in the least) and hope that she will (if she doesn't already) love him as much as he clearly loves her. He deserves nothing less.
Good Post I agree Wholeheartedly.
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Post by LLiza Tue Aug 06, 2013 5:03 pm

sfrank wrote:^^^ She is telling the media is was two weeks between Brooks exist and the proposal which makes me sad for Chris because he knows that that is NOT true. Just own it and move on with your lives together. You guys look great together and happy! Don't sell lies.
 
Huh????  rofl  The whole show is a fake -- why should Des act any differently????  She has lived a lie since starting the filming in May.  Now truth, transparency and reality may soon return to her everyday normal life.

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Post by Lievta Tue Aug 06, 2013 5:08 pm

It's frustrating that "let's date in the real world" is no longer considered good enough on this show. Chris and Des would've been better off getting engaged at a later date considering the drama and heartbreak she went through days before Chris proposed.

I'm with you on this, but to take it a step further, even when the engaged couple tries to make it work in real life, when things don't pan out, they're often lambasted as a sham couple. Look at Ali & Roberto, Mary & Byron, Andy & Tessa, etc. I'm sure they all did their best to make the relationship last, but it just didn't work out. THAT'S real life, for Pete's sake! Couples try and fail all over the world every day, but when a Bachelor relationship fails, no one seems to remember that they're just 2 people trying to make a go of it. Like Julia Roberts' character in Notting Hill says to Hugh Grant's character, at the end of the day "I'm just a girl standing in front of a boy asking him to love her." Haven't we all been there at some point in our lives?


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Post by happy2bme Tue Aug 06, 2013 5:42 pm

I just watched the finally. I am so happy for Desiree and Chris. I think it is really sincere. Chris is the best! I support these two. I do hope that they last.
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Post by pbmax Tue Aug 06, 2013 7:27 pm

terabithia, I love your post. I agree with you. I feel like they forced her to choose Chris. The way she was crying like she didn't want to do it. Even on the ATFR you got CH telling them they're in love and happy, not the couple themselves convincing us. I feel sad for Chris if he thinks he can sweep what happen out of his mind, it's gonna always linger in the back of his mind. I think I am through with the bachelorette, atleast with the bachelor they choose who they want even if it is the unpopular choice. It's
that or no one.
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Post by SonjaB Tue Aug 06, 2013 7:45 pm

pbmax wrote:terabithia, I love your post. I agree with you. I feel like they forced her to choose Chris. The way she was crying like she didn't want to do it. Even on the ATFR you got CH telling them they're in love and happy, not the couple themselves convincing us. I feel sad for Chris if he thinks he can sweep what happen out of his mind, it's gonna always linger in the back of his mind. I think I am through with the bachelorette, atleast with the bachelor they choose who they want even if it is the unpopular choice. It's
that or no one.

I went and rewatched past dates with Chris and Des and they really did have something. They had a comfortable passionate friendship and she genuinely was having a good time with him.

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Post by lstiff Tue Aug 06, 2013 9:03 pm

Starshine_16 wrote:Interesting,

I didn't see any semblance of unresolved feelings for Brooks at all. I saw awkwardness on BOTH parts and that to me showed that she was through with Brooks. I cannot overlook the fact that she looked SO happy with Chris. We've seen the shows when things are already uncomfortable between the lead and the F1 (Bremily anyone?) and I saw nothing like that last night. I think things have only gotten stronger between Des & Chris and I am HOPING that they can make it.

I just re watched the finale with a new set of eyes (not thinking Brooks was going to return based on spoilers) and actually saw a sweet tender relationship btwn these two. I agree that the Brooks part on ATFR was awkward between them both bc they have moved on from that day and are having to revisit it which would not be "fun" for anyone. I think this relationship is gonna last. Des is a lucky girl and one of the most honest leads I have seen. She is humble and someone most of us can relate to. I am sad people think she settled bc clearly she got someone who loved her enough for the both of them when it mattered & carried them through to the other side. Good for them.


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Post by LLiza Tue Aug 06, 2013 11:18 pm

Settling would have been taking back someone who didn't love you. Many missed the connection between Chris and Des because they were searching for and fantasizing about all of the love that Brooks had for Des...yeah, right!!

Sure, she had had a first choice. But all three guys had all been there the same amount of time -- some of you are insinuating that she picked up Chris for a one night stand in some bar in Antigua!!

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Post by Muslady Wed Aug 07, 2013 12:41 am

LLiza wrote:Settling would have been taking back someone who didn't love you.  Many missed the connection between Chris and Des because they were searching for and fantasizing about all of the love that Brooks had for Des...yeah, right!!

Sure, she had had a first choice.  But all three guys  had all been there the same amount of time -- some of you are insinuating that she picked up Chris for a one night stand in some bar in Antigua!!

And had an equal number of dates (at least Chris and Brooks). I think she would have had the same reaction had this been Chris leaving, maybe worse because Brooks was going backwards, where Chris was constantly moving forward. 2 dates and SQT is a level playing field; she was smart to cut her losses.JMO

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Post by Luvvy Wed Aug 07, 2013 12:44 am

Exactly, LLiza! Like Des said, she was falling for Chris the whole time. I'll never forget her comment on the HTD, "Chris is stealing my heart!" Everything happened the way it was supposed to, and Chris is strong enough to understand that this process was hell on Des, but in the end, she chose him. I think people keep forgetting that she could have totally walked away.


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Post by cupcakes Wed Aug 07, 2013 1:18 am

sanlee088 wrote:
ThankMeLater wrote:Funny because I was a chris fan but I skipped most of the season. I guess I should go back and watch it now :)

reason wrote:I skip the season now I am mad as a shad.

I am in the same boat as you guys...that is how sure I was!

Me three! I read the spoilers here so I tuned out. Wish the new couple the best!


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