Chris Siegfried -Bachelorette Contestant - Spoilers - Discussion

JBF wrote:

OK... where to begin? I am going to get wild and abstract here... *chuckle chuckle*

"As it Peers" may have initially been about "peers" when Chris wrote it, but it ALSO reads "as it appears"...

...and things do not appear as they seem.

In its original meaning, "peers" are quite often people you seek acceptance and approval from. You may even wear a mask, not be who you genuinely are and not "let your hair down" (key song lyrics we heard once) on account of your need for approval.

With just four lines taken out of the poem, we can see "it" potentially being The Spoilers: Brooks and Des "engaged"... and the spoilers "stand alone" by themselves because The Edit, Des' body language in interviews, Chris Harrison blogs, repeating Matt White music all point to Chris as Desiree's F1. (Reality Steve's big boo-boo in Brad's season is that he was told Brad and Chantal were engaged but he never bothered to ask "with whom?" since Chantal re-hooked with her old boyfriend post-show. Also we know Desiree can easily stage a fake FRC thanks to this incident: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-fy7Mv8OcuU)

"It" may also be some sort of "smokescreen" hiding something else that we are not supposed to see unveiled yet. In fact... probably MULTIPLE things we are not supposed to know about YET involving Desiree, Chris, Brooks, Drew and potentially anybody else who could "boomerang" back to the show... if we have any of THAT happening again.

"One does not expect the outcome that happened"... the past tense use of "happened" means it is a done deal. Yet "one" (probably implying us, the general viewers) is not expecting it since no previous Bachelor/ette season had this happen.

However "it" (the spoilers?) controls ALMOST nothing and leaves it to fate. Maybe SOME of what we will see tonight will be accepted by "All Of America" or some of it may not? This season will still be "full of surprises" (per Des on Jimmy Kimmel). I just hope everybody here has an open mind about everything and won't be judgmental regardless of the out-come. Bad enough that this forum will temporarily shut-down on account of traffic overflow anyway.

Now... what happens with Brooks, Drew and others can all be speculated, but what happens to Chris is spelled out in the three replays of Matt White's song. Of course, "You and I against the world" applies to ANY couple... and the world may not always be accepting to all couples. In addition, the world is a crazy place itself, full of the unexpected.

I guess I'll be waiting for the time that I'm sayin' that I'm ready to come back home.
While the world seems so crazy and you're angry and I tell you this is right for your soul.
All our friends are gettin' married and they're happy and they're sappy even though they might be feeling so old.
And when I'm feeling so lonely you tell me that you love me just for my soul... and then I say..

I will offer you love and affection and all of my warmth and protection.
It is just you and I against the world.

And fallin' down she said she'll cry for me, I don't know what I said to cause attention.
And all the problems with the money is so funny cause I don't care bout it, nothing at all.
Oh, we came together, we were lovin on the table, we were lovin on the floor, we were lovin where it's able.
And all the words and the wild nights that we spent and the spoonin' and the fire, then you look at me and I'll say..

I will offer you love and affection and all of my warmth and protection.
It will be you and I against the world.
I will be there, it'll be you and I against the world.

Let's spend the days doing nothing, nothin' to say or worry.
This could be starting somethin', don't have to end this story, oh.

I will offer you love and affection and all of my warmth and protection.
It is just you and I against the world.
Oh, tell me baby, it is just you and I against the world.
Oh, oh, will you tell me, it is just you and I against the world?

Other curios:

This line was emphasized in Munich: "All our friends are gettin' married and they're happy and they're sappy even though they might be feeling so old"... followed shortly later by her "he's everything I could want in a husband".

Also add the bridal white used over The Bachelorette opening credits. I understand that she is into bridal design, but why change the opening title cards?

sparkler wrote:

JBF wrote:

OK... where to begin? I am going to get wild and abstract here... *chuckle chuckle*

"As it Peers" may have initially been about "peers" when Chris wrote it, but it ALSO reads "as it appears"...

...and things do not appear as they seem.

In its original meaning, "peers" are quite often people you seek acceptance and approval from. You may even wear a mask, not be who you genuinely are and not "let your hair down" (key song lyrics we heard once) on account of your need for approval.

With just four lines taken out of the poem, we can see "it" potentially being The Spoilers: Brooks and Des "engaged"... and the spoilers "stand alone" by themselves because The Edit, Des' body language in interviews, Chris Harrison blogs, repeating Matt White music all point to Chris as Desiree's F1. (Reality Steve's big boo-boo in Brad's season is that he was told Brad and Chantal were engaged but he never bothered to ask "with whom?" since Chantal re-hooked with her old boyfriend post-show. Also we know Desiree can easily stage a fake FRC thanks to this incident: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-fy7Mv8OcuU)

"It" may also be some sort of "smokescreen" hiding something else that we are not supposed to see unveiled yet. In fact... probably MULTIPLE things we are not supposed to know about YET involving Desiree, Chris, Brooks, Drew and potentially anybody else who could "boomerang" back to the show... if we have any of THAT happening again.

"One does not expect the outcome that happened"... the past tense use of "happened" means it is a done deal. Yet "one" (probably implying us, the general viewers) is not expecting it since no previous Bachelor/ette season had this happen.

However "it" (the spoilers?) controls ALMOST nothing and leaves it to fate. Maybe SOME of what we will see tonight will be accepted by "All Of America" or some of it may not? This season will still be "full of surprises" (per Des on Jimmy Kimmel). I just hope everybody here has an open mind about everything and won't be judgmental regardless of the out-come. Bad enough that this forum will temporarily shut-down on account of traffic overflow anyway.

Now... what happens with Brooks, Drew and others can all be speculated, but what happens to Chris is spelled out in the three replays of Matt White's song. Of course, "You and I against the world" applies to ANY couple... and the world may not always be accepting to all couples. In addition, the world is a crazy place itself, full of the unexpected.

I guess I'll be waiting for the time that I'm sayin' that I'm ready to come back home.
While the world seems so crazy and you're angry and I tell you this is right for your soul.
All our friends are gettin' married and they're happy and they're sappy even though they might be feeling so old.
And when I'm feeling so lonely you tell me that you love me just for my soul... and then I say..

I will offer you love and affection and all of my warmth and protection.
It is just you and I against the world.

And fallin' down she said she'll cry for me, I don't know what I said to cause attention.
And all the problems with the money is so funny cause I don't care bout it, nothing at all.
Oh, we came together, we were lovin on the table, we were lovin on the floor, we were lovin where it's able.
And all the words and the wild nights that we spent and the spoonin' and the fire, then you look at me and I'll say..

I will offer you love and affection and all of my warmth and protection.
It will be you and I against the world.
I will be there, it'll be you and I against the world.

Let's spend the days doing nothing, nothin' to say or worry.
This could be starting somethin', don't have to end this story, oh.

I will offer you love and affection and all of my warmth and protection.
It is just you and I against the world.
Oh, tell me baby, it is just you and I against the world.
Oh, oh, will you tell me, it is just you and I against the world?

Other curios:

This line was emphasized in Munich: "All our friends are gettin' married and they're happy and they're sappy even though they might be feeling so old"... followed shortly later by her "he's everything I could want in a husband".

Also add the bridal white used over The Bachelorette opening credits. I understand that she is into bridal design, but why change the opening title cards?

You rock,JBF!!!! I have always enjoyed your posts- this season especially- thanks for all of your thoughtful analysis this season. You clued me into Chris early on as the F1 and I do think we will see it tonight. My husband will sit through this show tonight once again with me.  I told him that we have a reprieve until January- Happy viewing all!

murasaki1393 wrote:Hi Chrisvillers!!..just done playing catching up. ...Thanks for your kind words to me...(:WAVEY:  Grace, MP, JBF, Britt, bbmom, reb...and the rest of you who i couldnt mention one by one)

Lets play game!!....considering latest news...that the new Bachelor will be announce at ATFR (WTH is that for?:shocked!: wonky season indeed...)...here is what i truly think will happen (not necessarily what i want, though). The F1 and The Bachelor (in order)

1. Chris - Zak (oh yes,,, i will watch a whole season of Zak..LOL...and i will stay tuned  for the Chres Wedding Special :Smiley: )

2. Brooks- Chris (i am dreading as to what will happen to my RL in the next 3 months?    )

3. Chris - Drew

what is yours??

mercieme wrote:Guys, we are 2.5 hours away, the suspense is almost over....remember we stand strong here tonight no matter the outcome. I have no doubt that Chris will make us all proud and the future holds nothing but the best for him

SLA44 wrote:

murasaki1393 wrote:Hi Chrisvillers!!..just done playing catching up. ...Thanks for your kind words to me...(:WAVEY:  Grace, MP, JBF, Britt, bbmom, reb...and the rest of you who i couldnt mention one by one)

Lets play game!!....considering latest news...that the new Bachelor will be announce at ATFR (WTH is that for?:shocked!: wonky season indeed...)...here is what i truly think will happen (not necessarily what i want, though). The F1 and The Bachelor (in order)

1. Chris - Zak (oh yes,,, i will watch a whole season of Zak..LOL...and i will stay tuned  for the Chres Wedding Special :Smiley: )

2. Brooks- Chris (i am dreading as to what will happen to my RL in the next 3 months?    )

3. Chris - Drew

what is yours??

Hi Mura - glad you are back and just in time I might add!

Me personally am quite happy with #1 but could live with any of them but probably would not watch the bach season if it was #3 - not that I have anything against him I just don't find him exciting is all.

grace8136 wrote:bringing this over from the Brooks thread...

Re: Tweet/Facebook Updates - Bachelorette 9 - Discussion
by kellerrocks Today at 6:38 pm

Has anyone mentioned that Deanna Forester is on FB asking people to vote for Brooks for the next Bachelor?

murasaki1393 wrote:

grace8136 wrote:bringing this over from the Brooks thread...

Re: Tweet/Facebook Updates - Bachelorette 9 - Discussion
by kellerrocks Today at 6:38 pm

Has anyone mentioned that Deanna Forester is on FB asking people to vote for Brooks for the next Bachelor?

its funny i dont even take that into consideration in my post above... . He is just not fit with the gig, IMO... .
and i wonder whether the Sis knew about the announcement of next Bachelor will be in this very evening?.... 
what is the point of her effort then?....color me confused...LOL