Episode 10 (Finale Part 1) - 7/29 - Bachelorette 9 - Discussion - Spoilers

latergator wrote:nd, you could probably check the archives to get that information... I'm not sure, I didn't pay any attention and did not come here for that season.  sorry I can't help :Frown:

Thats ok.

I just find it odd that everyone keeps posting that CH was not so great about Cat also but no one is posting any details anywhere.

nd4reality wrote:

latergator wrote:nd, you could probably check the archives to get that information... I'm not sure, I didn't pay any attention and did not come here for that season.  sorry I can't help :Frown:

Thats ok.

I just find it odd that everyone keeps posting that CH was not so great about Cat also but no one is posting any details anywhere.

I can't remember what he said specifically but he did seem to be more of a Lindsay fan.

deleted. wrong thread.

treschicas wrote:

ImeldaMarcos wrote:IDK CH was not complimentary towards Cat at the end of last season.

I mean I guess there's still the chance Des is engaged to Brooks but if she is it would seem Chris H doesnt' approve of it then...but you would think if they were in fact engaged Chris H would be a little nicer about Brooks wishy washy behaviour.

I wouldn't give much thought to whether or not CH approved of them if I were Brooks and Des, but he also could/is most likely just playing puppet with his blog to TPTB and the show's storyline thus far, and continued hiding of details to what transpires next Monday.

Not sure if it's been said or not...but I question if any of the cast involved this season truly know how to love or what being loved feels like. I have been married for 4 years and I can tell you that the day I first said I love you to my husband, to the day that I said my wedding vows, to today my definition of love has changed by leaps and bounds. Some of my closest friends have been married for 10, 15, 20+ years and my parents will hit 40 years this fall...all would say the same thing. Love changes, it adapts and if you're lucky it grows.

I'm sure most if not all of us have said "I love you" before to only come back later and realize that that wasn't really love...or maybe it was the closest thing to "love" you've felt...or maybe it was as capable of being in love as you were at that moment in time.

I would question if Des really "loves" Brooks. Because if she does...no way could she have made out with Chris & Drew just days before (and after) she said she loved Brooks. I realize there's a show to make and she's under contract. But this might be a moment where she's only as in love as she is capable of being. And Brooks saying he knows what love feels like and this isn't it. Well, what if when he previously felt "love" it was only the closest thing he'd ever felt. And now this feels totally different than that and he's not sure what to think of this new feeling. Or maybe for both for Des she's in love with the thought of being in love. Who really knows?

I'm not judging either of them. It's a process they have to go through and they are the ones that define their version of love. They are people and us judging them does no one any good, not them, not us, and not anyone else. Not to mention the fact that at the end of the day...this is a show with a story to tell. Certainly not my story, certainly not your story, and certainly not Des/Brooks/Chris/Drew's stories....it is TPTB story to tell. They get to pick the cast, write the script, and then show you what they want to show you.

ITA!!! Great post!!

leselihau wrote:Not sure if it's been said or not...but I question if any of the cast involved this season truly know how to love or what being loved feels like.  I have been married for 4 years and I can tell you that the day I first said I love you to my husband, to the day that I said my wedding vows, to today my definition of love has changed by leaps and bounds.  Some of my closest friends have been married for 10, 15, 20+ years and my parents will hit 40 years this fall...all would say the same thing.  Love changes, it adapts and if you're lucky it grows.  

I'm sure most if not all of us have said "I love you" before to only come back later and realize that that wasn't really love...or maybe it was the closest thing to "love" you've felt...or maybe it was as capable of being in love as you were at that moment in time.  

I would question if Des really "loves" Brooks.  Because if she does...no way could she have made out with Chris & Drew just days before (and after) she said she loved Brooks.  I realize there's a show to make and she's under contract.  But this might be a moment where she's only as in love as she is capable of being.  And Brooks saying he knows what love feels like and this isn't it.  Well, what if when he previously felt "love" it was only the closest thing he'd ever felt.  And now this feels totally different than that and he's not sure what to think of this new feeling.  Or maybe for both for Des she's in love with the thought of being in love.  Who really knows?

I'm not judging either of them.  It's a process they have to go through and they are the ones that define their version of love.  They are people and us judging them does no one any good, not them, not us, and not anyone else.  Not to mention the fact that at the end of the day...this is a show with a story to tell.  Certainly not my story, certainly not your story, and certainly not Des/Brooks/Chris/Drew's stories....it is TPTB story to tell.  They get to pick the cast, write the script, and then show you what they want to show you.

Great post. Toss in the fact that we did not date 25 men at the same time, dropping a few each week, have these exotic dates nor have MF follow us around it muddies the waters more. Only they know what actually happened. All we see is an edit which may very well have focused on "love" rather than the more routine parts of life. Our lives are not scripted like that and most of us who are in long term relationships knew the person for more than a few months before getting engaged. You are very right that love does change over time. Congrats to your parents and may you have many years of happiness with your spouse. You are very level headed and separating reality( us) and fantasy( TPTB) is really what this is all about. No matter what choices are made I wish all parties well.

treschicas wrote:

ImeldaMarcos wrote:IDK CH was not complimentary towards Cat at the end of last season.

I mean I guess there's still the chance Des is engaged to Brooks but if she is it would seem Chris H doesnt' approve of it then...but you would think if they were in fact engaged Chris H would be a little nicer about Brooks wishy washy behaviour.

WHY???? Perhaps he is as repulsed by it as I am. Perhaps he has found Des to be a lovely girl and wants better for her. Please explain WHY CH should be nicer.

LLiza wrote:

treschicas wrote:

ImeldaMarcos wrote:IDK CH was not complimentary towards Cat at the end of last season.

I mean I guess there's still the chance Des is engaged to Brooks but if she is it would seem Chris H doesnt' approve of it then...but you would think if they were in fact engaged Chris H would be a little nicer about Brooks wishy washy behaviour.

WHY????  Perhaps he is as repulsed by it as I am.  Perhaps he has found Des to be a lovely girl and wants better for her.  Please explain WHY CH should be nicer.

He obviously doesn't have to, but,He is complimentary to Des in all interviews. If he was repulsed by Brooks, and Des chose him, I think he would be as equally uncomplimentary to her as well.

leselihau wrote:Not sure if it's been said or not...but I question if any of the cast involved this season truly know how to love or what being loved feels like.  I have been married for 4 years and I can tell you that the day I first said I love you to my husband, to the day that I said my wedding vows, to today my definition of love has changed by leaps and bounds.  Some of my closest friends have been married for 10, 15, 20+ years and my parents will hit 40 years this fall...all would say the same thing.  Love changes, it adapts and if you're lucky it grows.  

I'm sure most if not all of us have said "I love you" before to only come back later and realize that that wasn't really love...or maybe it was the closest thing to "love" you've felt...or maybe it was as capable of being in love as you were at that moment in time.  

I would question if Des really "loves" Brooks.  Because if she does...no way could she have made out with Chris & Drew just days before (and after) she said she loved Brooks.  I realize there's a show to make and she's under contract.  But this might be a moment where she's only as in love as she is capable of being.  And Brooks saying he knows what love feels like and this isn't it.  Well, what if when he previously felt "love" it was only the closest thing he'd ever felt.  And now this feels totally different than that and he's not sure what to think of this new feeling.  Or maybe for both for Des she's in love with the thought of being in love.  Who really knows?

I'm not judging either of them.  It's a process they have to go through and they are the ones that define their version of love.  They are people and us judging them does no one any good, not them, not us, and not anyone else.  Not to mention the fact that at the end of the day...this is a show with a story to tell.  Certainly not my story, certainly not your story, and certainly not Des/Brooks/Chris/Drew's stories....it is TPTB story to tell.  They get to pick the cast, write the script, and then show you what they want to show you.

ITA!! I knew I found my husband the moment I saw him. I didn't even know his name, and I felt a huge attraction to him, and knew we were soulmates. We have been married, very happily for 8 years.

The fact that Brooks did not feel he was in love with Des and left, only proves to me that IF they do get back together, this relationship will not last. I really do not understand how people can be "happy" that Des and Brooks are together(if they are), because they will never get married, and there will be more heartache to come for both of them.

leselihau wrote:Not sure if it's been said or not...but I question if any of the cast involved this season truly know how to love or what being loved feels like.  I have been married for 4 years and I can tell you that the day I first said I love you to my husband, to the day that I said my wedding vows, to today my definition of love has changed by leaps and bounds. Some of my closest friends have been married for 10, 15, 20+ years and my parents will hit 40 years this fall...all would say the same thing.  Love changes, it adapts and if you're lucky it grows.  

I'm sure most if not all of us have said "I love you" before to only come back later and realize that that wasn't really love...or maybe it was the closest thing to "love" you've felt...or maybe it was as capable of being in love as you were at that moment in time.  

I would question if Des really "loves" Brooks.  Because if she does...no way could she have made out with Chris & Drew just days before (and after) she said she loved Brooks.  I realize there's a show to make and she's under contract.  But this might be a moment where she's only as in love as she is capable of being.  And Brooks saying he knows what love feels like and this isn't it.  Well, what if when he previously felt "love" it was only the closest thing he'd ever felt.  And now this feels totally different than that and he's not sure what to think of this new feeling.  Or maybe for both for Des she's in love with the thought of being in love.  Who really knows?

I'm not judging either of them.  It's a process they have to go through and they are the ones that define their version of love.  They are people and us judging them does no one any good, not them, not us, and not anyone else.  Not to mention the fact that at the end of the day...this is a show with a story to tell.  Certainly not my story, certainly not your story, and certainly not Des/Brooks/Chris/Drew's stories....it is TPTB story to tell.  They get to pick the cast, write the script, and then show you what they want to show you.

Too true. I've been married for 6 years. When I first me my hubby I was unsure if it was "IT" for at least the first 2-3 months. Now I can't live without that man! (break down crying  )

They need to give these people more than 8 weeks.

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LLiza wrote:

treschicas wrote:

ImeldaMarcos wrote:IDK CH was not complimentary towards Cat at the end of last season.

I mean I guess there's still the chance Des is engaged to Brooks but if she is it would seem Chris H doesnt' approve of it then...but you would think if they were in fact engaged Chris H would be a little nicer about Brooks wishy washy behaviour.

WHY????  Perhaps he is as repulsed by it as I am.  Perhaps he has found Des to be a lovely girl and wants better for her.  Please explain WHY CH should be nicer.

He obviously doesn't have to, but,He is complimentary to Des in all interviews.  If he was repulsed by Brooks, and Des chose him, I think he would be as equally uncomplimentary to her as well.

It is all very strange but if there is an attempt at misinformation (which is extremely laughable with the sheer number of spoilers out there  ) then he is acting as though he is critical to keep the "secret" that Des herself says she wants hidden. IDK.

It is all very very confusing.