Re: The Bachelorette 9 - Media Discussion Thread - Spoilers

by veg_out Wed Jul 31, 2013 10:51 am

docnash14 wrote:
Beeleever wrote:I don't call it misconceptions about love. I call it producers messing with his mind to the point of him not knowing which end is up.

I think he was told something different regarding Des' feelings towards him or her feelings towards the other guys. Brooks was afraid to fully let himself commit to Des in this situation because he was afraid of getting hurt. He was totally surprised when she told him she loved him, but at that point I don't think he could pull a 180.

This is the same thing that happened to Jeremiah in SHA. He was afraid to commit to Paige because of what he was being told behind the scenes.

ETA: Chris Harrison said he is very protective of the girls. He is dissing Brooks left and right because of that reason. To call him wishy-washy, whether right or wrong, shows he has a total lack of respect for Brooks. I think he agrees with most of the viewing audience, that even if Brooks comes back and they are engaged, it doesn't bode well for their future.

Bee, I wholeheartedly agree and believe that is exactly what happened to Brooks

I agree with both of you. I didn't explain well my use of the phrase "misconceptions of love." Brooks associates love with pain, longing, and even a madness. That's not love: that's infatuation, which, yes, characterizes the beginning stages of relationship. It really shouldn't hurt.

Love is a choice and action not just words or feelings. He's leaning too much on the feeling part when he actually has the "doing" part of love down. When Brooks said in a PI, "I hope she finds the love she's looking for. I want that for her," that's love: wanting the best for another person even if that means walking away.

There's so much that an intimate relationship pulls up for people. Brooks told us that the experience made him realize the things he wants; that it was healing. I'm sure his past, his relationship with his dad, and his reliance on his family factored into his relationship with Des.

No doubt that the producers terrorized him with the idea of other relationships. He seemed truly taken aback by her declaration of love. I hope the best for both of them.

by albean99 Wed Jul 31, 2013 11:27 am

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Holly Julian ‏@HollyDurst 24h
I think Life & Style only has one picture of a Neil Lane ring... pic.twitter.com/s37XgHvbaK

That's not Holly's ring and probably not Des' either.

I know there's manipulation but I doubt that Brooks would have left if he felt in his heart that he loved Des. He knew she was well on the way to loving him so it should have been worth the risk to at least go on the FD and have private time talking to her. I guess I'm not buying that he said all those things about what he wasn't feeling and then had an epiphany when she said she loved him.

by atem Wed Jul 31, 2013 11:36 am

The ring matches what Wet Paint said is the final 1 ring. The L & S article doesn't mention the Final 2 guy's ring that is inscribed with 'this is forever'.

by Guest Wed Jul 31, 2013 11:41 am

Beeleever wrote:I don't call it misconceptions about love. I call it producers messing with his mind to the point of him not knowing which end is up.

I think he was told something different regarding Des' feelings towards him or her feelings towards the other guys. Brooks was afraid to fully let himself commit to Des in this situation because he was afraid of getting hurt. He was totally surprised when she told him she loved him, but at that point I don't think he could pull a 180.

This is the same thing that happened to Jeremiah in SHA. He was afraid to commit to Paige because of what he was being told behind the scenes.

ETA: Chris Harrison said he is very protective of the girls. He is dissing Brooks left and right because of that reason. To call him wishy-washy, whether right or wrong, shows he has a total lack of respect for Brooks. I think he agrees with most of the viewing audience, that even if Brooks comes back and they are engaged, it doesn't bode well for their future.

I agree with that! Brooks did look very surprised when Des said she loved him, which seemed really odd, given their relationship up to HTD's . Something happened to make him less confident.

by 2observe Wed Jul 31, 2013 11:45 am

treschicas wrote:yes....well it does NOT imply that Brooks returns and I would think if Brooks really did return that they'd want to tease us with that? Unless they start to in the upcoming week, then I don't think Brooks is coming back.

I agree.

by 2observe Wed Jul 31, 2013 11:51 am

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Holly Julian ‏@HollyDurst 24h
I think Life & Style only has one picture of a Neil Lane ring... pic.twitter.com/s37XgHvbaK

That's not Holly's ring and probably not Des' either.

I know there's manipulation but I doubt that Brooks would have left if he felt in his heart that he loved Des. He knew she was well on the way to loving him so it should have been worth the risk to at least go on the FD and have private time talking to her. I guess I'm not buying that he said all those things about what he wasn't feeling and then had an epiphany when she said she loved him.

Bean, I'm not buying it either; and, after reading the episode description for the Finale Part 2, he isn't coming back until the ATFR.

by nd4reality Wed Jul 31, 2013 11:54 am

2observe wrote:
albean99 wrote:[You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]
Holly Julian ‏@HollyDurst 24h
I think Life & Style only has one picture of a Neil Lane ring... pic.twitter.com/s37XgHvbaK

That's not Holly's ring and probably not Des' either.

I know there's manipulation but I doubt that Brooks would have left if he felt in his heart that he loved Des. He knew she was well on the way to loving him so it should have been worth the risk to at least go on the FD and have private time talking to her. I guess I'm not buying that he said all those things about what he wasn't feeling and then had an epiphany when she said she loved him.
Bean, I'm not buying it either; and, after reading the episode description for the Finale Part 2, he isn't coming back until the ATFR.

So if he does not come back then the spoiler is completely wrong :shocked!: .

by atem Wed Jul 31, 2013 11:59 am

What spoiler? That he's final 1? What difference would that make if he came back or not for that to be wrong?

by Guest Wed Jul 31, 2013 12:00 pm

nd4reality wrote:
2observe wrote:
albean99 wrote:[You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]
Holly Julian ‏@HollyDurst 24h
I think Life & Style only has one picture of a Neil Lane ring... pic.twitter.com/s37XgHvbaK

That's not Holly's ring and probably not Des' either.

I know there's manipulation but I doubt that Brooks would have left if he felt in his heart that he loved Des. He knew she was well on the way to loving him so it should have been worth the risk to at least go on the FD and have private time talking to her. I guess I'm not buying that he said all those things about what he wasn't feeling and then had an epiphany when she said she loved him.
Bean, I'm not buying it either; and, after reading the episode description for the Finale Part 2, he isn't coming back until the ATFR.

So if he does not come back then the spoiler is completely wrong :shocked!: .

but he HAS TO come back to show us the footage of him sobbing hard on the bed of white lettuce ! giggling

by Cecilia Wed Jul 31, 2013 12:02 pm

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His return is being set up quite nicely.

I agree. It started shifting towards if Brooks returns in every article.

by Pattycake92 Wed Jul 31, 2013 12:13 pm

Well, one of them has an epiphany. Des either forgets "the love of her life" in 2 days and accepts one of "the other guys" proposal or "the love of her life" realizes he loves her in return.

by FinalHydrangea Wed Jul 31, 2013 12:41 pm

2observe wrote:
albean99 wrote:[You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]
Holly Julian ‏@HollyDurst 24h
I think Life & Style only has one picture of a Neil Lane ring... pic.twitter.com/s37XgHvbaK

That's not Holly's ring and probably not Des' either.

I know there's manipulation but I doubt that Brooks would have left if he felt in his heart that he loved Des. He knew she was well on the way to loving him so it should have been worth the risk to at least go on the FD and have private time talking to her. I guess I'm not buying that he said all those things about what he wasn't feeling and then had an epiphany when she said she loved him.
Bean, I'm not buying it either; and, after reading the episode description for the Finale Part 2, he isn't coming back until the ATFR.

That "episode description" is a promo or teaser. It's not a summary or synopsis of the episode. If Brooks returns, it will unfold as a last-minute shock, fitting with the drama that's been played up by Chris Harrison and producers, and it would have made no sense to say that Brooks never actually left Antigua.

A lack of evidence doesn't disprove a possibility.

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