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Post by MiaHawk Wed Jul 24, 2013 8:58 pm

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grace8136 wrote:I really don't think Brooks is going to tell her that he is not ready to propose. That is not a deal breaker for Des. He said there is nothing he can do to make it right now. It is more serious than he is not ready to propose IMO.

I still remember how I reacted when I read from RS early on that Brooks wasn't ready to get married anytime soon.  Then that other spoiler from some other site saying that Brooks was final 1, but didn't propose.  I was like 'why accept the roses then'?  Everyone knows a no proposal is just reason to save face and dump the person after the show.  So, IDK how Desiree viewed it or how Brooks put it.


Are we 100% sure that the comment: "there is nothing I can do to make it better" is Brooks? I believe it might be a VO in the scene where he is pacing in blue tshirt. However, is it possible that it is James' voce crying/whining when confronted by Des on the horel steps? I've always thought that there was something fishy about that line. I don't think you actually see Brooks' lips saying those words. It does sound like Brooks saying "this is the worst day of my life" but that is very different than "there is nothing I can do to make it better" which sounds like he hopelessly screwed things up. I'm not much of a sleuther and havent been going over things with a fine toothed comb like many of you. But I thought I would just throw my thought out into the discussion.
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Post by brittany4400 Wed Jul 24, 2013 9:00 pm

Chris has been a lot of things... But forgettable is just not one of them for me!!!! Also, I think des told chris he "showed her what a real man was" after Bryden left!!!
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Post by atem Wed Jul 24, 2013 9:11 pm

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grace8136 wrote:I really don't think Brooks is going to tell her that he is not ready to propose. That is not a deal breaker for Des. He said there is nothing he can do to make it right now. It is more serious than he is not ready to propose IMO.

I still remember how I reacted when I read from RS early on that Brooks wasn't ready to get married anytime soon.  Then that other spoiler from some other site saying that Brooks was final 1, but didn't propose.  I was like 'why accept the roses then'?  Everyone knows a no proposal is just reason to save face and dump the person after the show.  So, IDK how Desiree viewed it or how Brooks put it.


Are we 100% sure that the comment:  "there is nothing I can do to make it better" is Brooks?  I believe it might be a VO in the scene where he is pacing in blue tshirt.  However, is it possible that it is James' voce crying/whining when confronted by Des on the horel steps?  I've always thought that there was something fishy about that line.  I don't think you actually see Brooks' lips saying those words.  It does sound like Brooks saying "this is the worst day of my life" but that is very different than "there is nothing I can do to make it better" which sounds like he hopelessly screwed things up.  I'm not much of a sleuther and havent been going over things with a fine toothed comb like many of you.  But I thought I would just throw my thought out into the discussion.

Yes, Brooks for sure says that. First he said 'it was way worse than I thought it would be. there's nothing I can say, you know, to make it better' I didn't know why at the time, but that was for sure him saying it in a VO. He doesn't say 'I'm losing my sh*t' though. That is spliced in from some other guy...heck, it sounded like MF to me.
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Post by Guest Wed Jul 24, 2013 9:56 pm

atem wrote:
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atem wrote:
grace8136 wrote:I really don't think Brooks is going to tell her that he is not ready to propose. That is not a deal breaker for Des. He said there is nothing he can do to make it right now. It is more serious than he is not ready to propose IMO.

I still remember how I reacted when I read from RS early on that Brooks wasn't ready to get married anytime soon.  Then that other spoiler from some other site saying that Brooks was final 1, but didn't propose.  I was like 'why accept the roses then'?  Everyone knows a no proposal is just reason to save face and dump the person after the show.  So, IDK how Desiree viewed it or how Brooks put it.


Are we 100% sure that the comment:  "there is nothing I can do to make it better" is Brooks?  I believe it might be a VO in the scene where he is pacing in blue tshirt.  However, is it possible that it is James' voce crying/whining when confronted by Des on the horel steps?  I've always thought that there was something fishy about that line.  I don't think you actually see Brooks' lips saying those words.  It does sound like Brooks saying "this is the worst day of my life" but that is very different than "there is nothing I can do to make it better" which sounds like he hopelessly screwed things up.  I'm not much of a sleuther and havent been going over things with a fine toothed comb like many of you.  But I thought I would just throw my thought out into the discussion.

Yes, Brooks for sure says that. First he said 'it was way worse than I thought it would be. there's nothing I can say, you know, to make it better' I didn't know why at the time, but that was for sure him saying it in a VO. He doesn't say 'I'm losing my sh*t' though.  That is spliced in from some other guy...heck, it sounded like MF to me.  

Thanks atem. What is your guess that he says? If he tells her he's not in love with her yet, he can't exactly change his mind and propose 2 days later.

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Post by Aunties_Love Wed Jul 24, 2013 10:55 pm

Cecilia wrote:But why would it be a two-part finale if Brooks doesn't return?
I think what happens is that she goes on the FD's, (extended airtime on each), then has a confrontation with Brooks and they leave it dangling at: so what are we going to do? Then the next episode begins with Des saying that he's got to go or something to that effect and Des carry's on with Chris and Drew, choosing one of them as her F1. I think that is still a possibility.


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Post by Aunties_Love Thu Jul 25, 2013 1:00 am

cfck2222 wrote:sfrank, thanks for the US Weekly summary/scan!! I couldn't get to the newsstands today so I'm extra happy you did.

So let me get this straight: the producers' idea of great drama, the producers' idea of Brooks' tragic character flaw is.....that he doesn't feel comfortable proposing to Desiree within the context of this show, after like, 3 dates that took place while Desiree was dating other people? rotfl lolpanda rofl  If that doesn't say everything about how upside down and backwards this show is, I don't know what will.

I don't blame Desiree for her part in this ridiculousness, though I think she's going to take some hits for buying into the show's party line on the issue of a proposal.

This all screams manufactured storyline to me. Now whether it was manufactured to milk max drama out of Brooks not being as into Desiree as she was him, or manufactured as the only thing that could spice up what has apparently been one of the most obvious F1 situations in show history remains to be seen.

From the excerpts sfrank has posted, they're making Chris sound like the ol' reliable, but not doing a whole lot to make a case for him as F1 for any other reason than being...there. As far as Desiree being torn, according to US Weekly a couple weeks ago, the hometown dates boosted Drew's case and it was between Brooks & Drew. Not Chris. Tabloids aren't that great at remembering what they said in previous issues, but the fact that Brooks & Drew are on the cover is supposed to tell us that either Brooks or Drew is the frontrunner who "rejects" Desiree. The "not settling" comment could be about Brooks, but it could refer to not settling for a guy who couldn't take the heat in the context of the show.

Now it makes sense to me why Life & Style came out with its "Yes! I'm Engaged!!!!!!" cover a week earlier than usual, with fewer details than usual. They were trying to undercut US Weekly's producer-sanctioned cover story this week, which is intended to feed the narrative that Desiree may end up alone. Seeing as this is US Weekly's 2nd Bach'ette cover in 4 weeks, with another secondary feature story mentioned on the cover in another week, it looks like Next Productions has in fact primarily been working with US Weekly this season, and less so Life & Style. That's a change. Next week's tabloid of choice will no doubt be focused on the epic battle for Desiree's heart and the happy ending.

* Disclaimer: My biases: haven't really watched this season but I find Drew to be the physically hottest (though the buying followers thing is lame), and I was just recently admiring Chris S's lovely hands and general attractiveness. The little I watched of this season was of Desiree and Brooks's 1st date, and I found myself thinking Brooks was really sweet and contemplative, though I also got the vibe he was a little bit unanchored in life and maybe has some buttons it would be easy for producers to push (neither of which is a major character flaw, because I ended up liking him and also think he's a good-looking guy). Also, any skepticism he may genuinely have had about proposing would make me like him more, not less.
I agree with the bolded in regards to the fact that Drew and Brooks on the cover is suppose to mean that they are the only 2 frontrunners in her season. I also agree with you saying that not settling could refer to not settling for a guy who couldn't take the heat in the context of the show. If you were to look at it from that angle, then yes, that does eliminate Brooks from contention as he's the one that gave up and left.


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Post by Guest Thu Jul 25, 2013 1:12 am

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this is a great news for all of the parties involved : Des, Brooks, Drew and Chris`s fans!!
i guess everything is still right in the universe and we can live together in peace....:cutesmile!: 

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Post by nutty1 Thu Jul 25, 2013 4:14 am

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this is a great news for all of the parties involved : Des, Brooks, Drew and Chris`s fans!!
i guess everything is still right in the universe and we can live together in peace....:cutesmile!: 

I don't see a story, just a header for "Gather". :Frown: 

It is rare that you don't see the contestants all get along post show. Just more proof that once they are out of the bubble, they see things more clearly!! If they come out of the show with good friends, that is huge. Only one wins, and most of the time, that doesn't even work. I really enjoy the post show friendships of the guys and girls!!


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Post by atem Thu Jul 25, 2013 5:07 am

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this is a great news for all of the parties involved : Des, Brooks, Drew and Chris`s fans!!
i guess everything is still right in the universe and we can live together in peace....:cutesmile!: 

It only goes to a basic article about the interview with Desiree about an intimate wedding stuff.
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Post by misticia Thu Jul 25, 2013 5:50 am

Crazy idea maybe but I suddenly wondering if this cover could mean Des was rejected by both Brooks AND Drew. Brooks during the FD and Drew during the LCD, after she told him what happened with Brooks (because he felt that she would never love him as she loved Brooks, you know, the "it's never gonna work out" thing.)

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Post by SueSt Thu Jul 25, 2013 5:57 am

misticia wrote:Crazy idea maybe but I suddenly wondering if this cover could mean Des was rejected by both Brooks AND Drew. Brooks during the FD and Drew during the LCD, after she told him what happened with Brooks (because he felt that she would never love him as she loved Brooks, you know, the "it's never gonna work out" thing.)

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no crazy at all... makes a lot of sense.
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Post by Kashathediva Thu Jul 25, 2013 5:59 am

misticia wrote:Crazy idea maybe but I suddenly wondering if this cover could mean Des was rejected by both Brooks AND Drew. Brooks during the FD and Drew during the LCD, after she told him what happened with Brooks (because he felt that she would never love him as she loved Brooks, you know, the "it's never gonna work out" thing.)

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That was exactly what I thought when I saw the cover.
Not that I thought anything more or less, it was my reaction to the cover, however.



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