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Post by nd4reality Tue Jul 23, 2013 1:46 pm

albean99 wrote:But why would CH talk to Brooks after he's already seen Des? It doesn't make sense to me. I can't imagine they didn't know going in that he was having doubts. After he talks to CH they know to have the limo waiting. Brooks seems set on what he's going to say from the time he greets Des. You can see it on his face. They greet, talk on the pier where he tells her whatever it is he tells her, he walks with her off the pier, and then we see them one more time standing which is likely right before he gets into the limo.  Unless I'm forgetting something everything is accounted for except Brooks walking around his resort upset. That may be after he talks to CH but before he goes to see Des.

Exactly - Des gave him some time away to think things through.

She gave James a chance didn't she ? I feel she would have given Brooks a chance also.

That is why I think it happens after the pier scene.

But your way could be right also :Smiley: 


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Post by SueSt Tue Jul 23, 2013 1:46 pm

Cecilia wrote:So, now am I leaning towards he doesn't want to propose, can't say he is fully in love with her, tells her this at the Verandah when they are supposed to have their FD (WAY TO RUIN THE FD BROOKS) which upsets Des, and then he leaves, freaks out (pacing, tears) goes back to St. James (in a limo or  not) has a sit down with CH.

makes sense!
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Post by nd4reality Tue Jul 23, 2013 1:51 pm

albean99 wrote:But why would CH talk to Brooks after he's already seen Des? It doesn't make sense to me. I can't imagine they didn't know going in that he was having doubts. After he talks to CH they know to have the limo waiting. Brooks seems set on what he's going to say from the time he greets Des. You can see it on his face. They greet, talk on the pier where he tells her whatever it is he tells her, he walks with her off the pier, and then we see them one more time standing which is likely right before he gets into the limo.  Unless I'm forgetting something everything is accounted for except Brooks walking around his resort upset. That may be after he talks to CH but before he goes to see Des.

albean - why would he not be ready for CH to knock on his door if HE was the one asking to speak to someone. To make the scene credible, they would not have had that.

CH never intervenes on behald of the contestants - never. For the lead yes. I'm trying to think where he has councilled a contestant at their request - can't remember. Oh yeah now I remember for Bentley in HongKong. so you maybe right. (hehe another Bentley comparision).

So it is likely that because Des is so upset about the pier thing, CH steps into the fray.


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Post by misticia Tue Jul 23, 2013 1:55 pm

SueSt wrote:
Cecilia wrote:So, now am I leaning towards he doesn't want to propose, can't say he is fully in love with her, tells her this at the Verandah when they are supposed to have their FD (WAY TO RUIN THE FD BROOKS) which upsets Des, and then he leaves, freaks out (pacing, tears) goes back to St. James (in a limo or  not) has a sit down with CH.

makes sense!

I guess that, even if he said he loved her but was not ready to propose, Des would have been so disappointed and upset that she couldn't handle a date with him.

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Post by Guest Tue Jul 23, 2013 2:03 pm

If he told her he loves her, but is not ready to propose, I don't think she would be that upset. They have only known each other for 6 weeks. She could still be with him in the end. She seems more practical than that. I think he must be questioning the whole thing for her to have such a melt down.

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Post by albean99 Tue Jul 23, 2013 2:10 pm

nd4reality wrote:
albean99 wrote:But why would CH talk to Brooks after he's already seen Des? It doesn't make sense to me. I can't imagine they didn't know going in that he was having doubts. After he talks to CH they know to have the limo waiting. Brooks seems set on what he's going to say from the time he greets Des. You can see it on his face. They greet, talk on the pier where he tells her whatever it is he tells her, he walks with her off the pier, and then we see them one more time standing which is likely right before he gets into the limo.  Unless I'm forgetting something everything is accounted for except Brooks walking around his resort upset. That may be after he talks to CH but before he goes to see Des.

albean - why would he not be ready for CH to knock on his door if HE was the one asking to speak to someone. To make the scene credible, they would not have had that.

CH never intervenes on behald of the contestants - never. For the lead yes. I'm trying to think where he has councilled a contestant at their request - can't remember. Oh yeah now I remember for Bentley in HongKong. so you maybe right. (hehe another Bentley comparision).

So it is likely that because Des is so upset about the pier thing, CH steps into the fray.

I don't think Brooks was told that CH was going to come talk to him. They knew something was going on because I'm sure he talked to his handler but they'd probably want to surprise him about talking to CH. It doesn't look to me like Brooks left it with Des that he might stay based on how much crying she's doing and her BL with him. To me the money shot is Brooks in the limo leaving. I just get the feeling we won't see Brooks again until the finale.

It's possible you're right of course. It's probably something else we'll have to wait to see.


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Post by veg_out Tue Jul 23, 2013 2:13 pm

ND, Chris sat down with Ali and with Frank before they met with the lead and left. I think that albean's sequence is correct. When Brooks leaves, I imagine that Des thinks he's gone for good. She wouldn't be that upset with Drew and at the RC if she thought it was an open door.

The MTA showed Des as this very assertive woman while it also showcased former leads' and audience comments about Des being so deserving of love. They're building support for her final choice and outcome esp by showing the tumult of the last two epis. Who will begrudge her anything if she goes through hell?
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Post by julychild Tue Jul 23, 2013 2:17 pm

Right off the bat, all Des has ever said she wants, at the end of this whole thing, is LOVE, and not a proposal. I believe the only reason why she would send anyone home, at this point, is if she doesn't feel that they love her and not because she is scared that they may not propose at the end of it all.

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Post by iamreal2u Tue Jul 23, 2013 2:23 pm

veg_out wrote:ND, Chris sat down with Ali and with Frank before they met with the lead and left. I think that albean's sequence is correct. When Brooks leaves, I imagine that Des thinks he's gone for good. She wouldn't be that upset with Drew and at the RC if she thought it was an open door.

The MTA showed Des as this very assertive woman while it also showcased former leads' and audience comments about Des being so deserving of love. They're building support for her final choice and outcome esp by showing the tumult of the last two epis. Who will begrudge her anything if she goes through hell?

If this happened before then what is so unusual this time?  Call me confuse.
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Post by Beeleever Tue Jul 23, 2013 2:33 pm

Rosepetal wrote:IMO, Drew wants out.

So this is a completely different lens on what goes down and I want to hear more. Can your please expound??? Thanks girl!
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Post by Rosepetal Tue Jul 23, 2013 2:38 pm

Beeleever wrote:
Rosepetal wrote:IMO, Drew wants out.

So this is a completely different lens on what goes down and I want to hear more. Can your please expound??? Thanks girl!

I thought I had it figure out but that is before I read the write up. Never mind.
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