Re: Chris Siegfried -Bachelorette Contestant - Spoilers - Thread #6

[Guest]

The problem here lies with the use of the word "perfect". Obviously, none of these families are perfect and the contestants would be the first ones to acknowledge this fact. As already mentioned, every family will have their issues, some more than others. What TPTB chose to show us is but a snippet of hours and hours of tape that they have of each family. Chris has had a really good edit(I refuse to use the word perfect) up until HTD. And it could have stayed that way(you know, warm fuzzies all around) but instead TPTB chose to include footage that they could have totally left out, just to inject some negativity. It's all part of the picture TPTB is trying to paint.

Exactly.  

[sdmom]

this is a comment from RS blog which i found interesting :

penguinfan01 on July 16, 2013 at 5:30 PM said:
I am a firm believer that when this show leads you in one direction, the outcome is totally different. They want shock value. I am thinking that since they are being so obvious about Brooks, that it will be Chris. Have to wait and see.

I rarely choose correctly but I think I agree with this.  The more I think about it the more I think their families are similar.  She may want a perfect family like Drew and Brooks but that is not her norm.JMO

Drew's perfect family?  Interesting way to describe a family with a recovering alcoholic father who has never been welcome in the mother's house until the HTD? Don't get me wrong, all families have dysfunction..including mine for sure...but let's at least be real here!

No person/family is perfect; however, I really like what they showed about Drew's dad. He seems very loving and supportive. Drew said his dad is now on AA board to help others and he drank water while others had wine during the mealtime. In all fairness, all Drew said is his dad had never been to his mother's house and we really don't know why or if he's welcomed in that house. To me, Drew has been through a lot: divorced parents at a young age, alcoholic father and a sister with special needs, but he doesn't seem to be bitter, but very caring and "kindhearted" (Des' word), his parents must have done something right to make him who he is today.
Should we all agree we just support our favorites and not nitpick other contestants and their families?  

[Baseball Mom]

this is a comment from RS blog which i found interesting :

penguinfan01 on July 16, 2013 at 5:30 PM said:
I am a firm believer that when this show leads you in one direction, the outcome is totally different. They want shock value. I am thinking that since they are being so obvious about Brooks, that it will be Chris. Have to wait and see.

I rarely choose correctly but I think I agree with this.  The more I think about it the more I think their families are similar.  She may want a perfect family like Drew and Brooks but that is not her norm.JMO

Drew's perfect family?  Interesting way to describe a family with a recovering alcoholic father who has never been welcome in the mother's house until the HTD? Don't get me wrong, all families have dysfunction..including mine for sure...but let's at least be real here!

No person/family is perfect; however, I really like what they showed about Drew's dad. He seems very loving and supportive. Drew said his dad is now on AA board to help others and he drank water while others had wine during the mealtime. In all fairness, all Drew said is his dad had never been to his mother's house and we really don't know why or if he's welcomed in that house. To me, Drew has been through a lot: divorced parents at a young age, alcoholic father and a sister with special needs, but he doesn't seem to be bitter, but very caring and "kindhearted" (Des' word), his parents must have done something right to make him who he is today.
Should we all agree we just support our favorites and not nitpick other contestants and their families?  

Absolutely, SDMom. We, Chrisvillers, as we like to call ourselves, have always tried to maintain a positive and warm tone to this thread. It is sometimes hard to do that when our own fave is being attacked left and right. At some point, we will feel the need to defend Chris. Drew is a great guy, just like Chris and they don't deserve the mean comments being made about them. And yes, they did sign up for this show so they should expect the nitpicking but I wish everyone would remember that they are still very much human and have feelings.

[Guest]

this is a comment from RS blog which i found interesting :

penguinfan01 on July 16, 2013 at 5:30 PM said:
I am a firm believer that when this show leads you in one direction, the outcome is totally different. They want shock value. I am thinking that since they are being so obvious about Brooks, that it will be Chris. Have to wait and see.

I rarely choose correctly but I think I agree with this.  The more I think about it the more I think their families are similar.  She may want a perfect family like Drew and Brooks but that is not her norm.JMO

Drew's perfect family?  Interesting way to describe a family with a recovering alcoholic father who has never been welcome in the mother's house until the HTD? Don't get me wrong, all families have dysfunction..including mine for sure...but let's at least be real here!

No person/family is perfect; however, I really like what they showed about Drew's dad. He seems very loving and supportive. Drew said his dad is now on AA board to help others and he drank water while others had wine during the mealtime. In all fairness, all Drew said is his dad had never been to his mother's house and we really don't know why or if he's welcomed in that house. To me, Drew has been through a lot: divorced parents at a young age, alcoholic father and a sister with special needs, but he doesn't seem to be bitter, but very caring and "kindhearted" (Des' word), his parents must have done something right to make him who he is today.
Should we all agree we just support our favorites and not nitpick other contestants and their families?  

ITA!!. only a tidbit for future references : many Chris's family members/friends are members here and regular posters on Chrisville..just sayin..

[sdmom]

^^^ No doubt about it. Both Drew and Chris are great guys, good looks and great personalities. I am sure they will find their respective Ms. Right (Or Ms. Perfect?). Best wishes to them and Cheers to Chrisvillers!

[Guest]

Warning:

I am happy to see a few people have said some of the same things I'm about to say since I started writing this but here is my take on the situation of a few things that have been posted....

Does anyone else find it odd that so many people on here (in all threads) have such strong opinions about strangers they have seen for 5 minutes on a TV show that is so heavily driven by the producers?  I’ve read a lot about how “perfect” some feel the families were and how "dysfunctional" some feel others were. Some posters have actually attacked every person that was shown, one by one.  None of us were sitting in a corner watching what was actually happening at the HTD and to pass judgment, IMO is just plain wrong. What I’ve had the hardest time with on these forums is how one person can be so supportive of a contestant on one thread and then go to another thread and be so hurtful and mean about that same contestant.  I was very surprised at what I was reading and who was saying it.  

Very few of us in here actually know the families that are on this crazy ride and I can only address the family I do know.  What you saw on camera is exactly what TPTB wanted you to see, period.  They are not perfect and they are not dysfunctional, they do not sit around talking about anyone’s ex (for 5 seconds I might add, not on and on and on), they don’t use mind altering anything (I couldn’t believe that post), and they don’t “want” to show unpleasant things on National TV.  Chris’ family is very important to him and what TPTB chose to leave in and more important leave out was unacceptable to me.  When some of you question what is the right way to do or not do something is unfair, just because you didn’t SEE something happen they way you have experienced it doesn’t mean it wasn’t done.  They film for hours and we see 13-15 minutes of their chopped up edit.

Chris is not adopted, he is not stupid or an idiot and he is definitely not boring.  He is however a very sweet, normal person with a normal family.  Above all he was taught to treat people with respect, not something I’ve seen a lot of around here lately.  I get that they signed up for this show and I get that they know anything they do or say will be shown to the world (contracts), the problem is what they were told to do or say (contracts) isn't necessarily who they really are.  I will never believe anyone, contestants or their families signed up for such hurtful things to be said about them.  Yes, I am also aware that there are people who just love to make fun of others, but I don’t have to like it.  And for those of you who will tell me to just skip over those posts, believe me I've tried but it isn't always apparent until it's too late.

I am just asking you to please remember that any of the families can and probably are reading what is being said on these forums.  You don’t know these contestants or their families, what you have seen are the portrayals of people that TPTB want you to see.  It’s a TV show.
Stepping off my soapbox now...

[nd4reality]

^^^ Thanks - that was needed.

[Guest]

this is a comment from RS blog which i found interesting :

penguinfan01 on July 16, 2013 at 5:30 PM said:
I am a firm believer that when this show leads you in one direction, the outcome is totally different. They want shock value. I am thinking that since they are being so obvious about Brooks, that it will be Chris. Have to wait and see.

I rarely choose correctly but I think I agree with this.  The more I think about it the more I think their families are similar.  She may want a perfect family like Drew and Brooks but that is not her norm.JMO

Drew's perfect family?  Interesting way to describe a family with a recovering alcoholic father who has never been welcome in the mother's house until the HTD? Don't get me wrong, all families have dysfunction..including mine for sure...but let's at least be real here!

No person/family is perfect; however, I really like what they showed about Drew's dad. He seems very loving and supportive. Drew said his dad is now on AA board to help others and he drank water while others had wine during the mealtime. In all fairness, all Drew said is his dad had never been to his mother's house and we really don't know why or if he's welcomed in that house. To me, Drew has been through a lot: divorced parents at a young age, alcoholic father and a sister with special needs, but he doesn't seem to be bitter, but very caring and "kindhearted" (Des' word), his parents must have done something right to make him who he is today.
Should we all agree we just support our favorites and not nitpick other contestants and their families?  

Absolutely, SDMom. We, Chrisvillers, as we like to call ourselves, have always tried to maintain a positive and warm tone to this thread. It is sometimes hard to do that when our own fave is being attacked left and right. At some point, we will feel the need to defend Chris. Drew is a great guy, just like Chris and they don't deserve the mean comments being made about them. And yes, they did sign up for this show so they should expect the nitpicking but I wish everyone would remember that they are still very much human and have feelings.

true,    
i believe most of us Chrisvillers always try to be positive and avoiding nitpick other contestants and their fam...but for the life of me i cant comprehend why Chris and his fam get bashed all over this forum  . I am afraid this place may explode comes the finale...:atomic: 
so lets keep this happy place together and move on..... 

[brittany4400]

To me chris' fam is probably the most normal! Parents married for 30 yrs, and everyone seems very close there with no issues! Yet we know both drew and brooks there are issues with the dad in the fam. To me that drews da was only let in the house for the recording of a tv show says there is still some issues there. Yet chris Htd gets the weird edit so u have that... Jut goes to show what editing can do that people are thinking chris has a weird fam and brooks and drew have perfect ones when it's really not the case! Not that anyone has a perfect fam, oh dear please never put my family on camera!!!! There will be no need for editing to make them weird   

[Guest]

I dug Chris' dad's toast. Does anyone have the exact language?

Thanks!

[Guest]

Warning:

I am happy to see a few people have said some of the same things I'm about to say since I started writing this but here is my take on the situation of a few things that have been posted....

Does anyone else find it odd that so many people on here (in all threads) have such strong opinions about strangers they have seen for 5 minutes on a TV show that is so heavily driven by the producers?  I’ve read a lot about how “perfect” some feel the families were and how "dysfunctional" some feel others were. Some posters have actually attacked every person that was shown, one by one.  None of us were sitting in a corner watching what was actually happening at the HTD and to pass judgment, IMO is just plain wrong. What I’ve had the hardest time with on these forums is how one person can be so supportive of a contestant on one thread and then go to another thread and be so hurtful and mean about that same contestant.  I was very surprised at what I was reading and who was saying it.  

Very few of us in here actually know the families that are on this crazy ride and I can only address the family I do know.  What you saw on camera is exactly what TPTB wanted you to see, period.  They are not perfect and they are not dysfunctional, they do not sit around talking about anyone’s ex (for 5 seconds I might add, not on and on and on), they don’t use mind altering anything (I couldn’t believe that post), and they don’t “want” to show unpleasant things on National TV.  Chris’ family is very important to him and what TPTB chose to leave in and more important leave out was unacceptable to me.  When some of you question what is the right way to do or not do something is unfair, just because you didn’t SEE something happen they way you have experienced it doesn’t mean it wasn’t done.  They film for hours and we see 13-15 minutes of their chopped up edit.

Chris is not adopted, he is not stupid or an idiot and he is definitely not boring.  He is however a very sweet, normal person with a normal family.  Above all he was taught to treat people with respect, not something I’ve seen a lot of around here lately.  I get that they signed up for this show and I get that they know anything they do or say will be shown to the world (contracts), the problem is what they were told to do or say (contracts) isn't necessarily who they really are.  I will never believe anyone, contestants or their families signed up for such hurtful things to be said about them.  Yes, I am also aware that there are people who just love to make fun of others, but I don’t have to like it.  And for those of you who will tell me to just skip over those posts, believe me I've tried but it isn't always apparent until it's too late.

I am just asking you to please remember that any of the families can and probably are reading what is being said on these forums.  You don’t know these contestants or their families, what you have seen are the portrayals of people that TPTB want you to see.  It’s a TV show.
Stepping off my soapbox now...

thanks Jodi!!
i only keep hoping that Chris could feel all of Chris's love from us who loves him here (and many2 out there out of this forum, as we can tell from twitter, YT, and other medias) and respect his family....   :cutesmile!: 

[Rolly]

Jodiraser, great post and I agree. Wish we could get this in all the contestant threads.:Clap: 

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