Re: Drew Kenney - Bachelorette 9 Contestant - Discussion - Thread #4

[SueSt]

No, it wouldn't make sense.  Why would she need to explain anything at the F3 RC?  

Also, she was rubbing his back in comfort.  They weren't kissing.  

well, conceivably, Chris doesn't know.
If she's sharing her hurt over another man with Drew, it's understandable that he would be stiff and uncomfortable... but maybe with Drew’s compassion, etc, they were able to get past it.

[Guest]

I noticed the smoke from the fire too.  Don't know what to make of that.

Oh, and I don't think I saw one hot tub in Antigua.  

Ha, see!  Maybe the hot tub sponsors dropped them?  Think about Jason...or Jillian...or Jason and Jillian.

Anyway, I was riffing on the lobster and smoke and fire thing.  I know it's supposed to be a serious moment but every time I watch that video I want to yell to Des, what is on fire behind you?!  But as we know, I notice the weirdest things.

[sdmom]

OK, I am a little confused here:
ND, so what do you think they did on FD? Then on LCD?
ATEM, I've seen you mention "zip line" on the threads. Who was doing zip line? Do we have sc of that? In the past, didn't many f1 do zip line? Tessa came to mind.

BTW, who said Drew is not adventurous? To me, spending a semester in a foreign county is adventurous!

SDmom that is what I don't know - what the other activity was. I am assuming they surfed or something at that beach which we could see behind the horses. Des seemed interested in surfing and who better to teach her than Drew  . This is pure fantasy on my part by the way and NOT even speculation.

But yes a beach type activity for FD was possibly planned near where that beach picnic thingy took place.


LCD would have been the  more serene hilltop picnic. Similar to what Brad and Em had for their LCD activity.

Oh and I agree Drew is adventurous. Hasn't he also done some backpacking in Europe while there ? He's a surfer as well. Pretty exciting.

and Drew has also done skydiving (certificate shown on his instagram)!
I always wonder: living in AZ, where did he go surfing? If he moves to San Diego....he can become surf buddies with Kiptyn:High clap: 
(I really need to step away from this board for my own sanity....)

[nd4reality]

No, it wouldn't make sense.  Why would she need to explain anything at the F3 RC?  

Also, she was rubbing his back in comfort.  They weren't kissing.  

well, conceivably, Chris doesn't know.
If she's sharing her hurt over another man with Drew, it's understandable that he would be stiff and uncomfortable... but maybe with Drew’s compassion, etc, they were able to get past it.

Good guess. They haven't shown us everything yet.

What they did show us was the throw doubt that she is left all alone - that was the intention of the promo. The promo was not to give us the whole run down to the ending. Just to leave us feeling sorry for poor des. she did not get her happy ending.

Yes she was rubbing his back in comfort. He was clearly uncomfortable. But her other arm was all the way around his back and their faces were turned towards each other's necks. Even when they were talking (her crying) their arms were touching. I tried to see if they were holding hands but the camara was not low enough. But their forearms were touching.

[SueSt]

No, it wouldn't make sense.  Why would she need to explain anything at the F3 RC?  

Also, she was rubbing his back in comfort.  They weren't kissing.  

well, conceivably, Chris doesn't know.
If she's sharing her hurt over another man with Drew, it's understandable that he would be stiff and uncomfortable... but maybe with Drew’s compassion, etc, they were able to get past it.

Good guess. They haven't shown us everything yet.

What they did show us was the throw doubt that she is left all alone - that was the intention of the promo. The promo was not to give us the whole run down to the ending. Just to leave us feeling sorry for poor des. she did not get her happy ending.

Yes she was rubbing his back in comfort. He was clearly uncomfortable. But her other arm was all the way around his back and their faces were turned towards each other's necks. Even when they were talking (her crying) their arms were touching. I tried to see if they were holding hands but the camara was not low enough. But their forearms were touching.

yes. which is why, I'm sure, that we have seen NOTHING about MTP... even if you're not going to show who she brings, you might at least show her speaking with the parents and Nate... but nothing.

based on your description, i'm going to have to watch that conversation AGAIN!!! thanks! :-)

[Jeepers]

Des says to Ben in ep 1 that she loves to camp.  I think she and Drew are starting a fire, etc like on a camp trip .just a guess

Could be they had a lobster bake in a fire pit for their meal.... Thus smoke

[albean99]

Seems to me that Drew already knows and spoke to Desiree about just that on that beach scene.  

Yes, but did he know that she was saying all along that she loved Brooks? He may know at that point that Brooks comes back or he's the one, but if he had known that Des was saying it to CH and effectively all of America, then he might have acted differently.

Exactly. Des doesn't exactly keep Drew at arms length so how's he supposed to know?  They have a clue when she's upset at the f3 RC but doubt they know the extent of her feelings.

If she started crying in front of them at the RC I'm pretty sure they clued in properly. They would have to be blind not to see it.

But it would be nice if she came clean to Drew when she met him next. I am hopeful of this but not certain that she would give him that courtesy.

We don't know how much they saw. Ali was emotional at her F3 RC but was very clear that she wanted the 2 guys there. We'll have to see how Des handled it because if she was a total basket case then neither of the guys would want to stay.

[Longhornfan]

Seems to me that Drew already knows and spoke to Desiree about just that on that beach scene.  

Yes, but did he know that she was saying all along that she loved Brooks? He may know at that point that Brooks comes back or he's the one, but if he had known that Des was saying it to CH and effectively all of America, then he might have acted differently.

Exactly. Des doesn't exactly keep Drew at arms length so how's he supposed to know?  They have a clue when she's upset at the f3 RC but doubt they know the extent of her feelings.

Maybe the crying scene on the beach is a discussion about this issue...  like: "you seemed pretty upset...are you ok"  The only thing that would make me pause about this is they've already had the MTP date... so why the discussion at that point?  But maybe, finally alone again, they are talking through things...  and she's trying to reassure him that she's 100% there for him... at this point.

 

So, let me throw this out there.  Let's say that Brooks did already leave, and let's say that your scenario is correct.  Drew picked up on something being wrong with Des.  They talked it through, with Des telling him that she was 100% there for him.  So, Des decided to move forward with Chris and Drew as her Final 2.

I don't know how to bring SCs over, but there is one of a man dressed up in a suit (most likely for a RC, perhaps the FRC), and there is a woman with him that no one seemed to know who she was, but it could possibly be Drew's handler or a producer.  In that scene, it appears that the man is upset, and the unidentified woman is either comforting him or is trying to talk him down off of a ledge - like he is wanting to leave.  I don't think that the guy has been identified yet, but it definitely does not look like it is Brooks.

So, I am just wondering, what if Brooks doesn't return to the show until right before the FRC, and that is why Fleiss has said that he didn't know if the "guys" would be happy with how the show ended.  And what if the guy in the picture is Drew?  Perhaps this is when Drew leaves, most likely taking himself out at that point.

Also, I am sorry if this has already been discussed and disproven, because I don't remember seeing this discussed anywhere.  But if it has been disproven, can you tell me where that SC picture took place - in relationship to the filming schedule?  Or perhaps it had no real bearing at all on the story that they are trying to tell, and therefore is irrelevant?

[nd4reality]

Seems to me that Drew already knows and spoke to Desiree about just that on that beach scene.  

Yes, but did he know that she was saying all along that she loved Brooks? He may know at that point that Brooks comes back or he's the one, but if he had known that Des was saying it to CH and effectively all of America, then he might have acted differently.

Exactly. Des doesn't exactly keep Drew at arms length so how's he supposed to know?  They have a clue when she's upset at the f3 RC but doubt they know the extent of her feelings.

If she started crying in front of them at the RC I'm pretty sure they clued in properly. They would have to be blind not to see it.

But it would be nice if she came clean to Drew when she met him next. I am hopeful of this but not certain that she would give him that courtesy.

We don't know how much they saw. Ali was emotional at her F3 RC but was very clear that she wanted the 2 guys there. We'll have to see how Des handled it because if she was a total basket case then neither of the guys would want to stay.

True
We were also speculating that Drew and she spoke about it prior to the F3 RC and it was really Chris that had to be clued in during. We definitely saw the puzzled look on Chris' face and then her crying.

[albean99]

Seems to me that Drew already knows and spoke to Desiree about just that on that beach scene.  

Yes, but did he know that she was saying all along that she loved Brooks? He may know at that point that Brooks comes back or he's the one, but if he had known that Des was saying it to CH and effectively all of America, then he might have acted differently.

Exactly. Des doesn't exactly keep Drew at arms length so how's he supposed to know?  They have a clue when she's upset at the f3 RC but doubt they know the extent of her feelings.

Maybe the crying scene on the beach is a discussion about this issue...  like: "you seemed pretty upset...are you ok"  The only thing that would make me pause about this is they've already had the MTP date... so why the discussion at that point?  But maybe, finally alone again, they are talking through things...  and she's trying to reassure him that she's 100% there for him... at this point.

 

So, let me throw this out there.  Let's say that Brooks did already leave, and let's say that your scenario is correct.  Drew picked up on something being wrong with Des.  They talked it through, with Des telling him that she was 100% there for him.  So, Des decided to move forward with Chris and Drew as her Final 2.

I don't know how to bring SCs over, but there is one of a man dressed up in a suit (most likely for a RC, perhaps the FRC), and there is a woman with him that no one seemed to know who she was, but it could possibly be Drew's handler or a producer.  In that scene, it appears that the man is upset, and the unidentified woman is either comforting him or is trying to talk him down off of a ledge - like he is wanting to leave.  I don't think that the guy has been identified yet, but it definitely does not look like it is Brooks.

So, I am just wondering, what if Brooks doesn't return to the show until right before the FRC, and that is why Fleiss has said that he didn't know if the "guys" would be happy with how the show ended.  And what if the guy in the picture is Drew?  Perhaps this is when Drew leaves, most likely taking himself out at that point.

Also, I am sorry if this has already been discussed and disproven, because I don't remember seeing this discussed anywhere.  But if it has been disproven, can you tell me where that SC picture took place - in relationship to the filming schedule?  Or perhaps it had no real bearing at all on the story that they are trying to tell, and therefore is irrelevant?

I don't think that guy was Drew but in any case I don't believe it was in Antigua because the woman is wearing a jacket that would fit more in cooler weather. People bring this SC back periodically but there's been no consensus. It's possible Brooks doesn't come back until shortly before the FRC. You could be right about the Fleiss comment about the guys not being happy. I'm sure they wouldn't be although probably wouldn't know at the time. There's no contact after the F3 RC.

[Jeepers]

Seems to me that Drew already knows and spoke to Desiree about just that on that beach scene.  

Yes, but did he know that she was saying all along that she loved Brooks? He may know at that point that Brooks comes back or he's the one, but if he had known that Des was saying it to CH and effectively all of America, then he might have acted differently.

Exactly. Des doesn't exactly keep Drew at arms length so how's he supposed to know?  They have a clue when she's upset at the f3 RC but doubt they know the extent of her feelings.

Maybe the crying scene on the beach is a discussion about this issue...  like: "you seemed pretty upset...are you ok"  The only thing that would make me pause about this is they've already had the MTP date... so why the discussion at that point?  But maybe, finally alone again, they are talking through things...  and she's trying to reassure him that she's 100% there for him... at this point.

 

So, let me throw this out there.  Let's say that Brooks did already leave, and let's say that your scenario is correct.  Drew picked up on something being wrong with Des.  They talked it through, with Des telling him that she was 100% there for him.  So, Des decided to move forward with Chris and Drew as her Final 2.

I don't know how to bring SCs over, but there is one of a man dressed up in a suit (most likely for a RC, perhaps the FRC), and there is a woman with him that no one seemed to know who she was, but it could possibly be Drew's handler or a producer.  In that scene, it appears that the man is upset, and the unidentified woman is either comforting him or is trying to talk him down off of a ledge - like he is wanting to leave.  I don't think that the guy has been identified yet, but it definitely does not look like it is Brooks.

So, I am just wondering, what if Brooks doesn't return to the show until right before the FRC, and that is why Fleiss has said that he didn't know if the "guys" would be happy with how the show ended.  And what if the guy in the picture is Drew?  Perhaps this is when Drew leaves, most likely taking himself out at that point.

Also, I am sorry if this has already been discussed and disproven, because I don't remember seeing this discussed anywhere.  But if it has been disproven, can you tell me where that SC picture took place - in relationship to the filming schedule?  Or perhaps it had no real bearing at all on the story that they are trying to tell, and therefore is irrelevant?

This scenerio is highly possible .. At that point Drew and Chris may not know that Brooks returns .. Both are rejected At the FRC because she has accepted Brooks return .. And when he show's up he does propose .. Unbeknownst to Drew and Chris

[atem]

The handler is dressed in a jacket with a sweater type thing underneath. Antigua always has warm weather. It doesn't get cold there.

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