Episode 8 (HTD's) - 7/18 - Bachelorette 9 - Discussion - Spoilers

nd4reality wrote:

2boys3girls wrote:To me, it is harder when your favorite isn't the F1. You have all these people discussing their favorite F1 and you can't relate because you don't feel exactly the same way. I think the F1 always has the most favorites because you have those people that just love the F1 because they like Brooks and then you have another group that likes the F1 just because they are the spoiled
F1.

I agree with this. Particularly when folks are supporting the F1 only because they are spoiled.

But it is even harder when the spoiler is wrong and you have a gut feeling that it is. Because there is littel or no proof to support the finding and then you have this tidal wave of posts from folks "seeing" the ever lasting connection between the lead and the spoiled contestant  who are unwilling to even consider the other alternative.
Brads 2.0 was brutal.

nd, what do you think in Des' case? is the spoiler wrong?

SueSt wrote:

nd4reality wrote:

2boys3girls wrote:To me, it is harder when your favorite isn't the F1. You have all these people discussing their favorite F1 and you can't relate because you don't feel exactly the same way. I think the F1 always has the most favorites because you have those people that just love the F1 because they like Brooks and then you have another group that likes the F1 just because they are the spoiled
F1.

I agree with this. Particularly when folks are supporting the F1 only because they are spoiled.

But it is even harder when the spoiler is wrong and you have a gut feeling that it is. Because there is littel or no proof to support the finding and then you have this tidal wave of posts from folks "seeing" the ever lasting connection between the lead and the spoiled contestant  who are unwilling to even consider the other alternative.
Brads 2.0 was brutal.

nd, what do you think in Des' case? is the spoiler wrong?

Lets put it this way - I have not have any confirmation YET that the spoiler is right. Monday cannot come soon enough lol.

nd4reality wrote:

SueSt wrote:

nd4reality wrote:

2boys3girls wrote:To me, it is harder when your favorite isn't the F1. You have all these people discussing their favorite F1 and you can't relate because you don't feel exactly the same way. I think the F1 always has the most favorites because you have those people that just love the F1 because they like Brooks and then you have another group that likes the F1 just because they are the spoiled
F1.

I agree with this. Particularly when folks are supporting the F1 only because they are spoiled.

But it is even harder when the spoiler is wrong and you have a gut feeling that it is. Because there is littel or no proof to support the finding and then you have this tidal wave of posts from folks "seeing" the ever lasting connection between the lead and the spoiled contestant  who are unwilling to even consider the other alternative.
Brads 2.0 was brutal.

nd, what do you think in Des' case? is the spoiler wrong?

Lets put it this way - I have not have any confirmation YET that the spoiler is right. Monday cannot come soon enough lol.

with you on Monday... hope we get more/better SCs... :-)
so, only because I'm new to the sleuthing, but what kinds of confirmation have you received in the past to verify that a spoiler is right?

SueSt wrote:

nd4reality wrote:

SueSt wrote:

nd4reality wrote:

2boys3girls wrote:To me, it is harder when your favorite isn't the F1. You have all these people discussing their favorite F1 and you can't relate because you don't feel exactly the same way. I think the F1 always has the most favorites because you have those people that just love the F1 because they like Brooks and then you have another group that likes the F1 just because they are the spoiled
F1.

I agree with this. Particularly when folks are supporting the F1 only because they are spoiled.

But it is even harder when the spoiler is wrong and you have a gut feeling that it is. Because there is littel or no proof to support the finding and then you have this tidal wave of posts from folks "seeing" the ever lasting connection between the lead and the spoiled contestant  who are unwilling to even consider the other alternative.
Brads 2.0 was brutal.

nd, what do you think in Des' case? is the spoiler wrong?

Lets put it this way - I have not have any confirmation YET that the spoiler is right. Monday cannot come soon enough lol.

with you on Monday... hope we get more/better SCs...  :-)
so, only because I'm new to the sleuthing, but what kinds of confirmation have you received in the past to verify that a spoiler is right?

Airport sightings, pictures with gps tracker and dates set on etc. Jef was a font of information his season.
i wasn't on the boards last season so don't know.

RS has only been spoiling since Jason's season and he has got 2 wrong. Ali's and Brads. I can't remember but I think Jillians was not spoiled by him.
But in other seasons we did get some clues via SC evidence towards the end that backup the spoiler failing getting RL stuff.
Jakes was the 1st i remember where he said 100% it was vienna from day 1 and we got a SC of Viennas legs on the boat. courtney walking bens dog confirmed Bens season.'

Ashleys season he spoiled a bit later on - not from episode 1 itself.

No offence to Love_Me she is awesome but the confirmed spoilers started just 3 seasons ago with Emily's. This is Sans first time. SCMIIW.
Till that time it has been just RS.

nd4reality wrote:

2boys3girls wrote:To me, it is harder when your favorite isn't the F1. You have all these people discussing their favorite F1 and you can't relate because you don't feel exactly the same way. I think the F1 always has the most favorites because you have those people that just love the F1 because they like Brooks and then you have another group that likes the F1 just because they are the spoiled
F1.

I agree with this. Particularly when folks are supporting the F1 only because they are spoiled.

But it is even harder when the spoiler is wrong and you have a gut feeling that it is. Because there is little or no proof to support the finding and then you have this tidal wave of posts from folks "seeing" the ever lasting connection between the lead and the spoiled contestant  who are unwilling to even consider the other alternative.
Brads 2.0 was brutal.

Great post and I so agree with you. I was one of those that knew RS spoilers were wrong with Brad 2.0.. I could see that Brad was in over his head in love with Em, but I could also see she didn't love him back as much in return. I knew he was gonna pick her. Just think of how badly he was hated ( for lack of another word ) his first show when he didn't pick either girl, then if he came back and took a mother of a young child to the f2 and then dropped her, he would have had to leave the country because of some of the crazy fans out there. : ( Brad with Em was like Sean with Cat, it was written on their faces so plain that it was undeniable that they were gonna be the F1's

The seasons I've really liked my fav ( or the one I like the best out of the F2 ) has always been F1. ( even before spoilers and before I found this forum). Except Ali's season (and I'm thankful now he wasn't F1). Now I liked Roberto, but Chris L was/is such a great man. To me, Roberto would be somebody I would have a hot, passionate, torrid love affair with, but Chris L would have been the man I would have wanted to marry and spend the rest of my life with. I was so thrilled he turned the Bach down and met Peyton and they got married..My respect for him doubled when he turned the show down.

I'm really curious who they will pick for the next Bach. It's hard to root for somebody you like to be the Bachelor coz you know the hell they are put through, but then you know that you'd enjoy watching a season with them. I'll watch whomever they choose coz I enjoy the show and watching how people act and seeing all the places they go to. Sorry for such a long post LOL

.

nd4reality wrote:

SueSt wrote:

nd4reality wrote:

SueSt wrote:

nd4reality wrote:

2boys3girls wrote:To me, it is harder when your favorite isn't the F1. You have all these people discussing their favorite F1 and you can't relate because you don't feel exactly the same way. I think the F1 always has the most favorites because you have those people that just love the F1 because they like Brooks and then you have another group that likes the F1 just because they are the spoiled
F1.

I agree with this. Particularly when folks are supporting the F1 only because they are spoiled.

But it is even harder when the spoiler is wrong and you have a gut feeling that it is. Because there is littel or no proof to support the finding and then you have this tidal wave of posts from folks "seeing" the ever lasting connection between the lead and the spoiled contestant  who are unwilling to even consider the other alternative.
Brads 2.0 was brutal.

nd, what do you think in Des' case? is the spoiler wrong?

Lets put it this way - I have not have any confirmation YET that the spoiler is right. Monday cannot come soon enough lol.

with you on Monday... hope we get more/better SCs...  :-)
so, only because I'm new to the sleuthing, but what kinds of confirmation have you received in the past to verify that a spoiler is right?

Airport sightings, pictures with gps tracker and dates set on etc. Jef was a font of information his season.
i wasn't on the boards last season so don't know.

RS has only been spoiling since Jason's season and he has got 2 wrong. Ali's and Brads. I can't remember but I think Jillians was not spoiled by him.
But in other seasons we did get some clues via SC evidence towards the end that backup the spoiler failing getting RL stuff.
Jakes was the 1st i remember where he said 100% it was vienna from day 1 and we got a SC of Viennas legs on the boat.  courtney walking bens dog  confirmed Bens season.'

Ashleys season he spoiled a bit later on  - not from episode 1 itself.

No offence to Love_Me she is awesome but the confirmed spoilers started just 3 seasons ago with Emily's. This is Sans first time. SCMIIW.
Till that time it has been just RS.

thanks for the lesson, nd! :-)
so, we're in wait and confirm mode!

LoveDovez wrote:

nd4reality wrote:

2boys3girls wrote:To me, it is harder when your favorite isn't the F1. You have all these people discussing their favorite F1 and you can't relate because you don't feel exactly the same way. I think the F1 always has the most favorites because you have those people that just love the F1 because they like Brooks and then you have another group that likes the F1 just because they are the spoiled
F1.

I agree with this. Particularly when folks are supporting the F1 only because they are spoiled.

But it is even harder when the spoiler is wrong and you have a gut feeling that it is. Because there is little or no proof to support the finding and then you have this tidal wave of posts from folks "seeing" the ever lasting connection between the lead and the spoiled contestant  who are unwilling to even consider the other alternative.
Brads 2.0 was brutal.

Great post and I so agree with you. I was one of those that knew RS spoilers were wrong with Brad 2.0.. I could see that Brad was in over his head in love with Em, but I could also see she didn't love him back as much in return. I knew he was gonna pick her. Just think of how badly he was hated ( for lack of another word ) his first show when he didn't pick either girl, then if he came back and took a mother of a young child to the f2 and then dropped her, he would have had to leave the country because of some of the crazy fans out there. : ( Brad with Em was like Sean with Cat, it was written on their faces so plain that it was undeniable that they were gonna be the F1's

The seasons I've really liked my fav ( or the one I like the best out of the F2 ) has always been F1. ( even before spoilers and before I found this forum). Except Ali's season (and I'm thankful now he wasn't F1). Now I liked Roberto, but Chris L was/is such a great man. To me, Roberto would be somebody I would have a hot, passionate, torrid love affair with, but Chris L would have been the man I would have wanted to marry and spend the rest of my life with. I was so thrilled he turned the Bach down and met Peyton and they got married..My respect for him doubled when he turned the show down.

I'm really curious who they will pick for the next Bach. It's hard to root for somebody you like to be the Bachelor coz you know the hell they are put through, but then you know that you'd enjoy watching a season with them. I'll watch whomever they choose coz I enjoy the show and watching how people act and seeing all the places they go to. Sorry for such a long post LOL

.

thanks for sharing LoveDovez...
so, who do you like for Des?

SueSt wrote:

LoveDovez wrote:

nd4reality wrote:

2boys3girls wrote:To me, it is harder when your favorite isn't the F1. You have all these people discussing their favorite F1 and you can't relate because you don't feel exactly the same way. I think the F1 always has the most favorites because you have those people that just love the F1 because they like Brooks and then you have another group that likes the F1 just because they are the spoiled
F1.

I agree with this. Particularly when folks are supporting the F1 only because they are spoiled.

But it is even harder when the spoiler is wrong and you have a gut feeling that it is. Because there is little or no proof to support the finding and then you have this tidal wave of posts from folks "seeing" the ever lasting connection between the lead and the spoiled contestant  who are unwilling to even consider the other alternative.
Brads 2.0 was brutal.

Great post and I so agree with you. I was one of those that knew RS spoilers were wrong with Brad 2.0.. I could see that Brad was in over his head in love with Em, but I could also see she didn't love him back as much in return. I knew he was gonna pick her. Just think of how badly he was hated ( for lack of another word ) his first show when he didn't pick either girl, then if he came back and took a mother of a young child to the f2 and then dropped her, he would have had to leave the country because of some of the crazy fans out there. : ( Brad with Em was like Sean with Cat, it was written on their faces so plain that it was undeniable that they were gonna be the F1's

The seasons I've really liked my fav ( or the one I like the best out of the F2 ) has always been F1. ( even before spoilers and before I found this forum). Except Ali's season (and I'm thankful now he wasn't F1). Now I liked Roberto, but Chris L was/is such a great man. To me, Roberto would be somebody I would have a hot, passionate, torrid love affair with, but Chris L would have been the man I would have wanted to marry and spend the rest of my life with. I was so thrilled he turned the Bach down and met Peyton and they got married..My respect for him doubled when he turned the show down.

I'm really curious who they will pick for the next Bach. It's hard to root for somebody you like to be the Bachelor coz you know the hell they are put through, but then you know that you'd enjoy watching a season with them. I'll watch whomever they choose coz I enjoy the show and watching how people act and seeing all the places they go to. Sorry for such a long post LOL

.

thanks for sharing LoveDovez...
so, who do you like for Des?

Aww thank you, too. As to who I like for Des let me try to break it down if I can...

Chris is a good solid man that cares deeply for Des. He does nothing for me, but I'm not the one choosing. LOL Chris would make her a wonderful hubby and would spend the rest of his life trying to make her happy, but I just don't see the spark in Des' eyes for Chris that I see with somebody else. I feel like Des is trying to fake her way to the end with Chris. I hate to see him get hurt, but somebody has to every season. I think they would make great friends and enjoy sports together, but maybe not marriage.

Drew is another wonderful man. I find him to be beautiful inside and out and I do believe he thinks he's in love with Des. I find him to be a little immature when it comes to the love side of things, if you know what I mean, but I do think he would make a good husband. I feel like he hasn't had a lot of experience because of him helping out with the family and I adore his family. I feel like Des is more into him than she is with Chris and I think she enjoys kissing him. One thing that gives me pause with those two is when she is kissing him she rubs his back kinda like you would if you were hugging a good friend and rub their back to console them. I'm trying to understand why she does that.

Brooks, Brooks, Brooks as RS said. LOL I think Des is way more into him than he is into her. Not saying he doesn't like her, but I feel like he feels like he's being pressured into loving her and he's fighting with himself on whether to just give into to those feelings or run from them. Had I not been spoiled, I would have picked Brooks for her just from their first date. You can tell when Brooks is around Des only has eyes for him, but I kinda see a rocky road ahead for them. ..

Why is there no sighting of them going to and from the safe house visits? Even with Sean and Cat we knew just about every time they saw each other. RS says Des and Brooks are still engaged , but he's been known to be wrong before... This season has me puzzled. Why the need for a 2 part finale? I can't remember ever having one of those.

So to answer your question after all this gibber jabber lol. Brooks is the one I see for Des just because of the love I see Des has for him. IMO is he the right man I'd pick for her.... I'm still on the fence about that because the other two men are such great men and would make great husbands. I didn't help very much, did I? LOLOL.

LoveDovez wrote:

SueSt wrote:

LoveDovez wrote:

nd4reality wrote:

2boys3girls wrote:To me, it is harder when your favorite isn't the F1. You have all these people discussing their favorite F1 and you can't relate because you don't feel exactly the same way. I think the F1 always has the most favorites because you have those people that just love the F1 because they like Brooks and then you have another group that likes the F1 just because they are the spoiled
F1.

I agree with this. Particularly when folks are supporting the F1 only because they are spoiled.

But it is even harder when the spoiler is wrong and you have a gut feeling that it is. Because there is little or no proof to support the finding and then you have this tidal wave of posts from folks "seeing" the ever lasting connection between the lead and the spoiled contestant  who are unwilling to even consider the other alternative.
Brads 2.0 was brutal.

Great post and I so agree with you. I was one of those that knew RS spoilers were wrong with Brad 2.0.. I could see that Brad was in over his head in love with Em, but I could also see she didn't love him back as much in return. I knew he was gonna pick her. Just think of how badly he was hated ( for lack of another word ) his first show when he didn't pick either girl, then if he came back and took a mother of a young child to the f2 and then dropped her, he would have had to leave the country because of some of the crazy fans out there. : ( Brad with Em was like Sean with Cat, it was written on their faces so plain that it was undeniable that they were gonna be the F1's

The seasons I've really liked my fav ( or the one I like the best out of the F2 ) has always been F1. ( even before spoilers and before I found this forum). Except Ali's season (and I'm thankful now he wasn't F1). Now I liked Roberto, but Chris L was/is such a great man. To me, Roberto would be somebody I would have a hot, passionate, torrid love affair with, but Chris L would have been the man I would have wanted to marry and spend the rest of my life with. I was so thrilled he turned the Bach down and met Peyton and they got married..My respect for him doubled when he turned the show down.

I'm really curious who they will pick for the next Bach. It's hard to root for somebody you like to be the Bachelor coz you know the hell they are put through, but then you know that you'd enjoy watching a season with them. I'll watch whomever they choose coz I enjoy the show and watching how people act and seeing all the places they go to. Sorry for such a long post LOL

.

thanks for sharing LoveDovez...
so, who do you like for Des?

Aww thank you, too. As to who I like for Des let me try to break it down if I can...

Chris is a good solid man that cares deeply for Des. He does nothing for me, but I'm not the one choosing. LOL Chris would make her a wonderful hubby and would spend the rest of his life trying to make her happy, but I just don't see the spark in Des' eyes for Chris that I see with somebody else. I feel like Des is trying to fake her way to the end with Chris. I hate to see him get hurt, but somebody has to every season. I think they would make great friends and enjoy sports together, but maybe not marriage.

Drew is another wonderful man. I find him to be beautiful inside and out and I do believe he thinks he's in love with Des. I find him to be a little immature when it comes to the love side of things, if you know what I mean, but I do think he would make a good husband. I feel like he hasn't had a lot of experience because of him helping out with the family and I adore his family. I feel like Des is more into him than she is with Chris and I think she enjoys kissing him. One thing that gives me pause with those two is when she is kissing him she rubs his back kinda like you would if you were hugging a good friend and rub their back to console them. I'm trying to understand why she does that.

Brooks, Brooks, Brooks as RS said. LOL I think Des is way more into him than he is into her. Not saying he doesn't like her, but I feel like he feels like he's being pressured into loving her and he's fighting with himself on whether to just give into to those feelings or run from them. Had I not been spoiled, I would have picked Brooks for her just from their first date. You can tell when Brooks is around Des only has eyes for him, but I kinda see a rocky road ahead for them. ..

Why is there no sighting of them going to and from the safe house visits? Even with Sean and Cat we knew just about every time they saw each other. RS says Des and Brooks are still engaged , but he's been known to be wrong before... This season has me puzzled. Why the need for a 2 part finale? I can't remember ever having one of those.

So to answer your question after all this gibber jabber lol. Brooks is the one I see for Des just because of the love I see Des has for him. IMO is he the right man I'd pick for her.... I'm still on the fence about that because the other two men are such great men and would make great husbands. I didn't help very much, did I? LOLOL.

LoveDovez, Wow, thanks for your post and analysis. I really enjoyed reading your thoughts.

Interesting observation about Des and Drew and the neck rubbing.... I'm going to have to rewatch the videos to see what it brings up for me.

So true about Brooks.... and the rocky road. I just don't see how it will resolve positively if he leaves and somehow returns. If I were Des I would always doubt him on some level after this, regardless if he came back and professed undying love.

Also, CH was blogging about repeating mistakes.... and CH's comment, especially in conjunction with Des saying she chooses the unavailable guys has me seeing trouble on the horizon.... but the heart wants what the heart wants...

Interesting too about lack of sightings, etc... and nd brought this up too... so maybe it means something... I tend to think this possibly favors Drew since we know he recently moved to CA... so maybe driving allows them to keep undercover...

I guess we'll have to wait and see ...

Thanks again for sharing your thoughts!

LoveDovez wrote:

SueSt wrote:

LoveDovez wrote:

nd4reality wrote:

2boys3girls wrote:To me, it is harder when your favorite isn't the F1. You have all these people discussing their favorite F1 and you can't relate because you don't feel exactly the same way. I think the F1 always has the most favorites because you have those people that just love the F1 because they like Brooks and then you have another group that likes the F1 just because they are the spoiled
F1.

I agree with this. Particularly when folks are supporting the F1 only because they are spoiled.

But it is even harder when the spoiler is wrong and you have a gut feeling that it is. Because there is little or no proof to support the finding and then you have this tidal wave of posts from folks "seeing" the ever lasting connection between the lead and the spoiled contestant  who are unwilling to even consider the other alternative.
Brads 2.0 was brutal.

Great post and I so agree with you. I was one of those that knew RS spoilers were wrong with Brad 2.0.. I could see that Brad was in over his head in love with Em, but I could also see she didn't love him back as much in return. I knew he was gonna pick her. Just think of how badly he was hated ( for lack of another word ) his first show when he didn't pick either girl, then if he came back and took a mother of a young child to the f2 and then dropped her, he would have had to leave the country because of some of the crazy fans out there. : ( Brad with Em was like Sean with Cat, it was written on their faces so plain that it was undeniable that they were gonna be the F1's

The seasons I've really liked my fav ( or the one I like the best out of the F2 ) has always been F1. ( even before spoilers and before I found this forum). Except Ali's season (and I'm thankful now he wasn't F1). Now I liked Roberto, but Chris L was/is such a great man. To me, Roberto would be somebody I would have a hot, passionate, torrid love affair with, but Chris L would have been the man I would have wanted to marry and spend the rest of my life with. I was so thrilled he turned the Bach down and met Peyton and they got married..My respect for him doubled when he turned the show down.

I'm really curious who they will pick for the next Bach. It's hard to root for somebody you like to be the Bachelor coz you know the hell they are put through, but then you know that you'd enjoy watching a season with them. I'll watch whomever they choose coz I enjoy the show and watching how people act and seeing all the places they go to. Sorry for such a long post LOL

.

thanks for sharing LoveDovez...
so, who do you like for Des?

Aww thank you, too. As to who I like for Des let me try to break it down if I can...

Chris is a good solid man that cares deeply for Des. He does nothing for me, but I'm not the one choosing. LOL Chris would make her a wonderful hubby and would spend the rest of his life trying to make her happy, but I just don't see the spark in Des' eyes for Chris that I see with somebody else. I feel like Des is trying to fake her way to the end with Chris. I hate to see him get hurt, but somebody has to every season. I think they would make great friends and enjoy sports together, but maybe not marriage.

Drew is another wonderful man. I find him to be beautiful inside and out and I do believe he thinks he's in love with Des. I find him to be a little immature when it comes to the love side of things, if you know what I mean, but I do think he would make a good husband. I feel like he hasn't had a lot of experience because of him helping out with the family and I adore his family. I feel like Des is more into him than she is with Chris and I think she enjoys kissing him. One thing that gives me pause with those two is when she is kissing him she rubs his back kinda like you would if you were hugging a good friend and rub their back to console them. I'm trying to understand why she does that.

Brooks, Brooks, Brooks as RS said. LOL I think Des is way more into him than he is into her. Not saying he doesn't like her, but I feel like he feels like he's being pressured into loving her and he's fighting with himself on whether to just give into to those feelings or run from them. Had I not been spoiled, I would have picked Brooks for her just from their first date. You can tell when Brooks is around Des only has eyes for him, but I kinda see a rocky road ahead for them. ..

Why is there no sighting of them going to and from the safe house visits? Even with Sean and Cat we knew just about every time they saw each other. RS says Des and Brooks are still engaged , but he's been known to be wrong before... This season has me puzzled. Why the need for a 2 part finale? I can't remember ever having one of those.

So to answer your question after all this gibber jabber lol. Brooks is the one I see for Des just because of the love I see Des has for him. IMO is he the right man I'd pick for her.... I'm still on the fence about that because the other two men are such great men and would make great husbands. I didn't help very much, did I? LOLOL.

Hey LD - can you post a SC of her rubbing Drews back when making out please ? The only time I remember seeing that is on the beach while crying.

Nd I believe I have seen her do it with chris when they first met up..and also with Drew when the first met up when hugging.
also when Drew told her his dad's story in that lil cafe on their 1/1.. Are a couple that comes to mind.
I would make sc but I am not that good..

LoveDovez wrote:

nd4reality wrote:

2boys3girls wrote:To me, it is harder when your favorite isn't the F1. You have all these people discussing their favorite F1 and you can't relate because you don't feel exactly the same way. I think the F1 always has the most favorites because you have those people that just love the F1 because they like Brooks and then you have another group that likes the F1 just because they are the spoiled
F1.

I agree with this. Particularly when folks are supporting the F1 only because they are spoiled.

But it is even harder when the spoiler is wrong and you have a gut feeling that it is. Because there is little or no proof to support the finding and then you have this tidal wave of posts from folks "seeing" the ever lasting connection between the lead and the spoiled contestant  who are unwilling to even consider the other alternative.
Brads 2.0 was brutal.

Great post and I so agree with you. I was one of those that knew RS spoilers were wrong with Brad 2.0.. I could see that Brad was in over his head in love with Em, but I could also see she didn't love him back as much in return. I knew he was gonna pick her. Just think of how badly he was hated ( for lack of another word ) his first show when he didn't pick either girl, then if he came back and took a mother of a young child to the f2 and then dropped her, he would have had to leave the country because of some of the crazy fans out there. : ( Brad with Em was like Sean with Cat, it was written on their faces so plain that it was undeniable that they were gonna be the F1's

The seasons I've really liked my fav ( or the one I like the best out of the F2 ) has always been F1. ( even before spoilers and before I found this forum). Except Ali's season (and I'm thankful now he wasn't F1). Now I liked Roberto, but Chris L was/is such a great man. To me, Roberto would be somebody I would have a hot, passionate, torrid love affair with, but Chris L would have been the man I would have wanted to marry and spend the rest of my life with. I was so thrilled he turned the Bach down and met Peyton and they got married..My respect for him doubled when he turned the show down.

I'm really curious who they will pick for the next Bach. It's hard to root for somebody you like to be the Bachelor coz you know the hell they are put through, but then you know that you'd enjoy watching a season with them. I'll watch whomever they choose coz I enjoy the show and watching how people act and seeing all the places they go to. Sorry for such a long post LOL

.

I agree with both of your posts. It seems that there is always the F1 people that like the F1 for who they are, but in each season, it also seems like when the F1 gets spoiled, some get on that bandwagon just because of the spoiled ending. It's also true that when you aren't a fave of the F1 for whatever reason, it is hard to be on the boards sometimes because the F1 love gets overwhelming. I just hope we don't have the problems like there were for Brad 2.0 if it turns out that the spoiled F1 isn't the actual F1.