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Post by Guest Tue Jul 16, 2013 7:06 pm

sophienette wrote:OK... rewatching Brooks' HTD...

First words when they see each other@

D going down slope - "I just need to skip to you"
B - "I'll run"
D - "Awwww..."
D - "How are you"
B - "Good/God (?) I missed you... Where have you been all my life?" (yes, I kinda went all awwww there!) 
D - Aww I'm glad I'm here
Then finally "hi's" and kisses.

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Post by atem Tue Jul 16, 2013 7:08 pm

nannymargie wrote:I think that is the ring Zak gave Des.  Can anyone screen cap the ring he gave Des?

That ring he gave Des looked just like the one in AC. It looks nothing like the one you guys are talking about.


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Post by Aunties_Love Tue Jul 16, 2013 7:37 pm

canyonvue wrote:I have yet to give my opinion of the episode yesterday. I've just been responding to everyone else.

Zac: I never thought she'd end up with him. I don't think he'd make a good Bachelor. He would be exhausting to be married to.  

Drew: He is in love for the first time. That means it probably wouldn't last. I'm now a lot less worried about him "interfering" with her and Brooks. Of course, he could be one of the twists. If she chooses him I'd have to rethink Desiree.

Chris: They're making fun of him. I've noticed it several times before, all the way to the early part of the season. They wouldn't make fun of the F1 like that. Cue: relief. I don't understand why they're making fun of him, though. He seems too nice to be made fun of.

Brooks: (This will be a long one) His HTD could not have been any better. They've always shown Brooks as having a conflict (being the first date, a broken finger keeping him from the RC—cue the hero returns music; slow to the finish line, fear of getting his heart broken), but they've always given him respect in the editing. And attention. I'm grateful for that.

I loved that he almost dumped them in the lake. That couldn't have been any more perfect. I was hoping they'd fall all the way in, though. Hugesmile 

I love that he told his family that he likes kissing Des, so blatantly. Well, I guess that question's answered.

No wonder his family means so much to him. I think he's lucky to have them.

The home for his date was amazing. That view.

Brooks had a lot he was hiding because his family's extraordinary. He has hidden depths.

Des said she liked that he still managed to be adorable when he was lying on the ground with a broken finger, in pain. Ahhh.

The gallant man waving goodbye to her and running his fingers through his hair.

I even loved the sweater he wore. He has interesting style, but sometimes it's a definite hit.

His mom is a strong leader and he adores her. She trusts his judgement completely, which makes him trustworthy. His sister is striking and direct with her brother; his brothers are fun and sarcastic, just like him, and want to know if she can "hang" with him, because they think their brother is a catch. They also want to thank her for "not being a waste of time." The Foresters are amazing.

But all of this did make me wonder about Des. His family is amazing. Seeing Brooks in his element made him look different, gave him new depths. DOES she really fit into his life? CAN she really "hang" with Brooks, or, *gasp* is he actually too good for her?

She always loves the wrong men.

Would he want to align himself with her bullying brother? Or, will her creeper brother (lurking in the doorway is funny) become noble and play the hero in the end? (Making her seem slightly more equal). Yes, if her brother did Brooks a good turn, his own sister a good turn, that might start to equal out the scale a little more.

Did he make a decision out of true love and the knowledge that he should be with her forever? I hope someday he finds that, that's for sure.

RC: They showed Brooks commenting about Zac, more than once, which I thought was interesting and just another strange change this season. Brooks is thinking when he says it, and frankly, I like thinking Brooks, a lot. Don't change, Brooks.

Coming Up: Brooks says something, feels a certain way and Des doesn't like it. She is angry/hurt, storms off. He is blindsided and beside himself wondering how he can fix it/if he'll lose her. He leaves. She's sad. This lover's rift won't last.
Regarding the bolded on Drew's date. Is that just because she wouldn't of chosen your favorite? By you saying that you are a lot less worried about him "interferring", isn't that kind of harsh as you really don't know the extent that Des is feeling for Drew. To me, she made it very obvious that she loves kissing him and is feeling a lot for him with how she kept pulling him in for the kisses and may I remind all, not all of them were closed mouth kisses neither. I think that your assessment of the other HTD's wasn't spot on as I think there was a lot more to them than what you said/willing to see/or just not wanting to admit. I do see Drew's HTD as one of the warmest heartwarming that there was. Regarding Brooks HTD, you seemed to be more enamored by his family and him versus Des and the connection they were making. I realize that Brooks is your fave, but in all honesty, do see some red flags and it might in all likely hood be HIM that causes the rift between them and not Des. Got one more thing to add, you said that they have always given respect to Brooks in the editing. What do you think of the respect level that has been given to say Zack and Drew? I am not asking about Chris as you have made that obvious that you feel he hasn't been given the respect.


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Post by nannymargie Tue Jul 16, 2013 8:18 pm

gabriele wrote:
nannymargie wrote:I think that is the ring Zak gave Des.  Can anyone screen cap the ring he gave Des?
i think so too but it was this ring in the SC and not the one he bought in AC. that AC ring, which was set in gold, seems to have disappeared.

IMO that is not a Neil Lane ring. The ring on Wetpaint had a big round diamond and not surrounded by other diamonds. If I remember right we never got a good look at the ring Zak bought in AC. I will try and look for it but I am not very good at finding things.
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Post by Kashathediva Tue Jul 16, 2013 8:40 pm

I do not personally think the franchise allowed Wetpaint to see the rings that were selected in Antigua by the final 2 guys. First, one ring immediately went back to production and to Neil Lane upon that gentleman's rejection.
Secondly, it is not a far jump to think very generalized descriptions of the ring were given (if a description other than price and carats for each were given) and Wetpaint then supplied pictures of what they thought the rings looked like.



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Post by nannymargie Tue Jul 16, 2013 8:49 pm

Kashathediva wrote:I do not personally think the franchise allowed Wetpaint to see the rings that were selected in Antigua by the final 2 guys. First, one ring immediately went back to production and to Neil Lane upon that gentleman's rejection.
Secondly, it is not a far jump to think very generalized descriptions of the ring were given (if a description other than price and carats for each were given) and Wetpaint then supplied pictures of what they thought the rings looked like.

How do you know one went back to production? I am Not being ugly just asking how you know this.

If that is the case Wetpaint should not put up pictures until they see the actual ring.
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Post by atem Tue Jul 16, 2013 8:50 pm

Nate Hartsock said that he knows who Desiree picks and he's a 'nice guy'. Tells me she picks Chris S. to me.


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Post by Jeepers Tue Jul 16, 2013 8:54 pm

His comment is very neutral .. How the heck do you get Chris out of that .. They are ALL nice guys


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Post by nannymargie Tue Jul 16, 2013 8:54 pm

Jeepers wrote:His comment is very neutral .. How the heck do you get Chris out of that .. They are ALL nice guys

Hey Jeepers, I just said the same thing.
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Post by Guest Tue Jul 16, 2013 9:02 pm

Aunties_Love wrote:
canyonvue wrote:I have yet to give my opinion of the episode yesterday. I've just been responding to everyone else.

Zac: I never thought she'd end up with him. I don't think he'd make a good Bachelor. He would be exhausting to be married to.  

Drew: He is in love for the first time. That means it probably wouldn't last. I'm now a lot less worried about him "interfering" with her and Brooks. Of course, he could be one of the twists. If she chooses him I'd have to rethink Desiree.

Chris: They're making fun of him. I've noticed it several times before, all the way to the early part of the season. They wouldn't make fun of the F1 like that. Cue: relief. I don't understand why they're making fun of him, though. He seems too nice to be made fun of.

Brooks: (This will be a long one) His HTD could not have been any better. They've always shown Brooks as having a conflict (being the first date, a broken finger keeping him from the RC—cue the hero returns music; slow to the finish line, fear of getting his heart broken), but they've always given him respect in the editing. And attention. I'm grateful for that.

I loved that he almost dumped them in the lake. That couldn't have been any more perfect. I was hoping they'd fall all the way in, though. Hugesmile 

I love that he told his family that he likes kissing Des, so blatantly. Well, I guess that question's answered.

No wonder his family means so much to him. I think he's lucky to have them.

The home for his date was amazing. That view.

Brooks had a lot he was hiding because his family's extraordinary. He has hidden depths.

Des said she liked that he still managed to be adorable when he was lying on the ground with a broken finger, in pain. Ahhh.

The gallant man waving goodbye to her and running his fingers through his hair.

I even loved the sweater he wore. He has interesting style, but sometimes it's a definite hit.

His mom is a strong leader and he adores her. She trusts his judgement completely, which makes him trustworthy. His sister is striking and direct with her brother; his brothers are fun and sarcastic, just like him, and want to know if she can "hang" with him, because they think their brother is a catch. They also want to thank her for "not being a waste of time." The Foresters are amazing.

But all of this did make me wonder about Des. His family is amazing. Seeing Brooks in his element made him look different, gave him new depths. DOES she really fit into his life? CAN she really "hang" with Brooks, or, *gasp* is he actually too good for her?

She always loves the wrong men.

Would he want to align himself with her bullying brother? Or, will her creeper brother (lurking in the doorway is funny) become noble and play the hero in the end? (Making her seem slightly more equal). Yes, if her brother did Brooks a good turn, his own sister a good turn, that might start to equal out the scale a little more.

Did he make a decision out of true love and the knowledge that he should be with her forever? I hope someday he finds that, that's for sure.

RC: They showed Brooks commenting about Zac, more than once, which I thought was interesting and just another strange change this season. Brooks is thinking when he says it, and frankly, I like thinking Brooks, a lot. Don't change, Brooks.

Coming Up: Brooks says something, feels a certain way and Des doesn't like it. She is angry/hurt, storms off. He is blindsided and beside himself wondering how he can fix it/if he'll lose her. He leaves. She's sad. This lover's rift won't last.
Regarding the bolded on Drew's date.  Is that just because she wouldn't of chosen your favorite? By you saying that you are a lot less worried about him "interferring", isn't that kind of harsh as you really don't know the extent that Des is feeling for Drew.  To me, she made it very obvious that she loves kissing him and is feeling a lot for him with how she kept pulling him in for the kisses and may I remind all, not all of them were closed mouth kisses neither.  I think that your assessment of the other HTD's wasn't spot on as I think there was a lot more to them than what you said/willing to see/or just not wanting to admit.  I do see Drew's HTD as one of the warmest heartwarming that there was.  Regarding Brooks HTD, you seemed to be more enamored by his family and him versus Des and the connection they were making.  I realize that Brooks is your fave, but in all honesty, do see some red flags and it might in all likely hood be HIM that causes the rift between them and not Des.  Got one more thing to add, you said that they have always given respect to Brooks in the editing.  What do you think of the respect level that has been given to say Zack and Drew?  I am not asking about Chris as you have made that obvious that you feel he hasn't been given the respect.

I love Brooks and seeing his family just made him clearer to me. I'm definitely HIS fan, but I like Des, too. I hope they're right for each other. I hope it worked out for them on the show and that we're seeing a true love story. But I can see how Des might not be right for him, too, and vice versa. All I hope is that he stuck true to his best judgement, and that the intense ending didn't force him to move faster than he was ready.

I think they've been respectful to Drew all the way through, and Zac, too.

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Post by Kashathediva Tue Jul 16, 2013 9:10 pm

nannymargie wrote:
Kashathediva wrote:I do not personally think the franchise allowed Wetpaint to see the rings that were selected in Antigua by the final 2 guys. First, one ring immediately went back to production and to Neil Lane upon that gentleman's rejection.
Secondly, it is not a far jump to think very generalized descriptions of the ring were given (if a description other than price and carats for each were given) and Wetpaint then supplied pictures of what they thought the rings looked like.

How do you know one went back to production? I am Not being ugly just asking how you know this.

If that is the case Wetpaint should not put up pictures until they see the actual ring.

No ugliness interpreted. :Smiley: 
IF the F2 (who had a ring to propose) was rejected--and the ring was valued as Wetpaint suggested--don't you think it went back to production to Neil Lane immediately? The F2 didn't keep it, it was not his to keep, it was Neil Lane's.
As it is, almost immediately upon completion of show(FRC/return to the states) the real ring involved at the FRC is taken back each season by production until after the ATFR is aired. The couple does not have the ring in possession.
I can't see the Machine letting Wetpaint "see" the rings. It may offer up some vague descriptive info but that's all I see.
Wetpaint has been wrong with info many times, even just recently printing the FRC this season taking place in Curacao vs Antigua.



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Post by nutty1 Tue Jul 16, 2013 9:13 pm

I also don't think Wetpaint was privy to what the rings looked like.


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