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Post by eliza3 Sat Jan 18, 2014 11:04 am

Ayana wrote:Wow. I'm done with watching his season. My Monday nights are free again \o/

I'm done as well.
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Post by Linds911 Sat Jan 18, 2014 11:07 am

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Post by umngirl Sat Jan 18, 2014 1:21 pm

Response from the network and producers.
ABC slams Bachelor's anti-gay comments

ABC and The Bachelor producers issued a statement Saturday to address star Juan Pablo Galavais’ comments about gay people. The network and production company Warner Horizon said in a joint statement, “Juan Pablo’s comments were careless, thoughtless and insensitive, and in no way reflect the views of the network, the show’s producers or studio.”

News broke earlier today that the first Latino Bachelor star told a reporter at an ABC party at the Television Critics Association press tour in Pasadena that a Bachelor who is a gay man would be “more pervert in a sense. To me that show would be too strong, too hard, to watch on TV.”

ABC’s declaration differs from the way A&E handled the somewhat similar Duck Dynasty controversy that erupted last month when co-star Phil Robertson made comments about gay people to GQ magazine. A&E (which, is co-owned by ABC parent Disney) initially put out a statement from Robertson, then followed up with another from the network saying the star was suspended from the show (a position that was later recanted after fan and media criticism protest). ABC’s statement is similar to what some industry insiders privately said A&E should have done instead — just distance the company from the opinions of its star with a brief statement without cutting ties.

Another difference between the two controversies is the reason given for the reality performer’s position. Robertson pegged his statement to his strongly held Christian beliefs. Galavais seemed to position his belief as a product of his upbringing (“Obviously people have their husband and wife and have kids. That’s how we are brought up. It’s hard for me to understand that.”).
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Post by lavenderred Sat Jan 18, 2014 1:35 pm

umngirl wrote:Response from the network and producers.
ABC slams Bachelor's anti-gay comments

ABC and The Bachelor producers issued a statement Saturday to address star Juan Pablo Galavais’ comments about gay people. The  network and production company Warner Horizon said in a joint statement, “Juan Pablo’s comments were careless, thoughtless and insensitive, and in no way reflect the views of the network, the show’s producers or studio.”
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And who's fault is that ABC? No one but YOURS!!!  ABC asked for this when they picked a guy whose first language is not English. And a guy who obviously hasn't learned not to discuss race, sex or politics.

Too bad he was not smart enough to steer away from the question. He could have said "No... I respect [gay people] but," it's not my decision to make. And dropped it.

They've dug their own grave for allowing him free reign with questions. Where was Peter Geist during this interview? I know he was there because he posted 3 IG pictures from the event -- [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] .


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Post by umngirl Sat Jan 18, 2014 1:39 pm

And Juan Pablo's response. Written by some lawyer or speechwriter somewhere.
People,

I want to apologize to all the people I may have offended because of my comments on having a Gay or Bisexual Bachelor. The comment was taken out of context. If you listen to the entire interview, there's nothing but respect for Gay people and their families. I have many gay friends and one of my closest friends who's like a brother has been a constant in my life especially during the past 5 months. The word pervert was not what I meant to say and I am very sorry about it. Everyone knows English is my second language and my vocabulary is not as broad as it is in Spanish and, because of this, sometimes I use the wrong words to express myself. What I meant to say was that gay people are more affectionate and intense and for a segment of the TV audience this would be too racy to accept. The show is very racy as it is and I don't let my 5 year old daughter watch it. Once again, I'm sorry for how my words were taken. I would never disrespect anyone.

Sinceramente,

Juan Pablo Galavis.

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Post by umngirl Sat Jan 18, 2014 1:40 pm

lavenderred wrote:
umngirl wrote:Response from the network and producers.
ABC slams Bachelor's anti-gay comments

ABC and The Bachelor producers issued a statement Saturday to address star Juan Pablo Galavais’ comments about gay people. The  network and production company Warner Horizon said in a joint statement, “Juan Pablo’s comments were careless, thoughtless and insensitive, and in no way reflect the views of the network, the show’s producers or studio.”
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And who's fault is that ABC? No one but YOURS!!!  ABC asked for this when they picked a guy whose first language is not English. And a guy who obviously hasn't learned not to discuss race, sex or politics.

Too bad he was not smart enough to steer away from the question. He could have said "No... I respect [gay people] but," it's not my decision to make. And dropped it.

They've dug their own grave for allowing him free reign with questions. Where was Peter Berg during this interview? I know he was there because he posted 3 IG pictures from the event -- [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] .

I've seen photos from the press line and Peter Berg was standing right behind JuanPa. So no idea where he was during this particular interview, why he didn't think to stop JuanPa from putting his foot further in his mouth, or why JuanPa wasn't told to politely avoid such topics if he couldn't express himself properly.
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Post by eliza3 Sat Jan 18, 2014 1:49 pm

umngirl wrote:And Juan Pablo's response. Written by some lawyer or speechwriter somewhere.
People,

I want to apologize to all the people I may have offended because of my comments on having a Gay or Bisexual Bachelor. The comment was taken out of context. If you listen to the entire interview, there's nothing but respect for Gay people and their families. I have many gay friends and one of my closest friends who's like a brother has been a constant in my life especially during the past 5 months. The word pervert was not what I meant to say and I am very sorry about it. Everyone knows English is my second language and my vocabulary is not as broad as it is in Spanish and, because of this, sometimes I use the wrong words to express myself. What I meant to say was that gay people are more affectionate and intense and for a segment of the TV audience this would be too racy to accept. The show is very racy as it is and I don't let my 5 year old daughter watch it. Once again, I'm sorry for how my words were taken. I would never disrespect anyone.

Sinceramente,

Juan Pablo Galavis.

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How stupid do they think we are?? Does ABC really think we can't see that he didn't write that himself!!
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Post by umngirl Sat Jan 18, 2014 1:54 pm

eliza3 wrote:
umngirl wrote:And Juan Pablo's response. Written by some lawyer or speechwriter somewhere.
People,

I want to apologize to all the people I may have offended because of my comments on having a Gay or Bisexual Bachelor. The comment was taken out of context. If you listen to the entire interview, there's nothing but respect for Gay people and their families. I have many gay friends and one of my closest friends who's like a brother has been a constant in my life especially during the past 5 months. The word pervert was not what I meant to say and I am very sorry about it. Everyone knows English is my second language and my vocabulary is not as broad as it is in Spanish and, because of this, sometimes I use the wrong words to express myself. What I meant to say was that gay people are more affectionate and intense and for a segment of the TV audience this would be too racy to accept. The show is very racy as it is and I don't let my 5 year old daughter watch it. Once again, I'm sorry for how my words were taken. I would never disrespect anyone.

Sinceramente,

Juan Pablo Galavis.

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How stupid do they think we are??  Does ABC really think we can't see that he didn't write that himself!!

Oh I think they know we realize he didn't write it, but this perfectly crafted statement is a much better alternative to JuanPa actually trying to write something himself.


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Post by Kashathediva Sat Jan 18, 2014 1:54 pm

umngirl wrote:And Juan Pablo's response. Written by some lawyer or speechwriter somewhere.
People,

I want to apologize to all the people I may have offended because of my comments on having a Gay or Bisexual Bachelor. The comment was taken out of context. If you listen to the entire interview, there's nothing but respect for Gay people and their families. I have many gay friends and one of my closest friends who's like a brother has been a constant in my life especially during the past 5 months. The word pervert was not what I meant to say and I am very sorry about it. Everyone knows English is my second language and my vocabulary is not as broad as it is in Spanish and, because of this, sometimes I use the wrong words to express myself. What I meant to say was that gay people are more affectionate and intense and for a segment of the TV audience this would be too racy to accept. The show is very racy as it is and I don't let my 5 year old daughter watch it. Once again, I'm sorry for how my words were taken. I would never disrespect anyone.

Sinceramente,

Juan Pablo Galavis.

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Just another wtf moment. This is supposed to make the first gaffe better???  no 



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Post by Guest Sat Jan 18, 2014 2:00 pm

I can tell you as someone with English as a second language, I have offended people a lot in the past by using the wrong words, usually literal translations of a french word that sounds similar, but means something very different. I am giving him the benefit of the doubt.

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Post by chloep Sat Jan 18, 2014 2:12 pm

sophienette wrote:I can tell you as someone with English as a second language, I have offended people a lot in the past by using the wrong words, usually literal translations of a french word that sounds similar, but means something very different. I am giving him the benefit of the doubt.

I could give him that but at the same time "pervert" translates to "pervertido" in spanish, so not much of a difference there....
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Post by Relalou Sat Jan 18, 2014 2:31 pm

sophienette wrote:I can tell you as someone with English as a second language, I have offended people a lot in the past by using the wrong words, usually literal translations of a french word that sounds similar, but means something very different. I am giving him the benefit of the doubt.

Yup. I thoroughly embarrassed myself when speaking french to a boyfriend and apologizing that the soup I served him
tasted of contraceptives (preservatives in French). Needless to say he spat out the soup and went into gales of laughter!
I'm going to give the benefit of the doubt to JP here.

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