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Post by Guest Mon Dec 30, 2013 6:22 pm

Kashathediva wrote:
IrishGal wrote:
nonnie wrote:
IrishGal wrote:
nonnie wrote:
IrishGal wrote:It's because we are sick that this became a fan site instead of what was intended. JMHO.   :Smiley: 


All of these forums that deal with anything Reality TV is a fan site. What makes anyone think this one would be any different. The only reason this one exists is because FoRT shut down sleuthing.

I respectfully disagree.  This site WAS different. Most fan sites do not allow you to say negative things about the cast.  This one specifically allowed negativity towards the cast which was why we had so much wonderful snark happening.  And the shutting down of sleuthing was not the only reason we left FORT.  The mods there got more and more heavy-handed with bannings and punishments and strict rules to the point one didn't know what was safe to say and what wasn't.  Until Emily's season and the extremely divisive fanning that took place here, we survived peacefully without the need for any of that.  Sadly, starting in Emily's season, the fans of certain cast members would not allow anything negative to be said about their favorite even though it was totally allowed by the rules.  Please understand I'm not trying to stir things up...just want the facts to be known by those who weren't around when this site came into existence. I'm sincerely hoping that in future seasons we can return to our roots. Let the snarking begin...calling on the Queen of Snark, Kasha!   yes 

I was around when this site started. I left for awhile and only post every now and again. There were issues at FoRT long before Emily's season. Every season sides would divvy up  and the fights would begin. I came on FoRT in 2007 and they were fighting back then. Tessa fans versus Bevin fans so these forums are mostly all alike IMO. I do believe the mods at FoRT did their best to keep things in control but they got tired of moderating a bunch of people who wouldn't stop fighting. Were they always fair probably not because I got a few infractions myself but after awhile enough is enough. The same thing that was happening there is also happening here and as long as people have opinions it will always continue.

Sorry if I wasn't clear.  When I referred to Emily's season, I meant the season that she was lead and what happened here...not Brad's season on FORT.  I never looked at FORT again after this forum was formed so have no clue what Emily's season on FORT was like.  I do know that on this forum we managed to survive Ashley's and Ben's season just fine so I am confident it can be done.  There does not have to be fighting...it's not some kind of given and we proved it in those two seasons.   :Smiley: 

I have to agree with a lot of what you've said, so I won't repeat,  simply will add that one of the major incentives with the start of this forum and the closing of the bach spoiler threads on FORT (and if you choose to look at my member date you can see it was the date this site opened) was freedom of speech. The main and only forum rule at that time was to be respectful of each other and not to attack other members . Pretty damn simple if you ask me. And for a long time this was abided by without issue.
Then, IMOAA, this site grew to big too fast(on any given day look to see how many users are here--then subtract the number of guests, bots, etc and see how incredibly small the number of actual members are). New members were not of the same mindset of the founding members. It did become a fan site.
IMO--the show is stale and has been since the M farce and fiasco. I have no interest. Not even to snark-- and certainly not to worry about who on any given day might be offended by what I say.
Thankfully, I have some wonderful things going on in RL to keep me busy, but I do check in frequently!
I believe members have moved on--evidenced by the scant amount of wishes for happy holidays, etc.
But for all who continue to visit--May you blessed with a wonderful new year filled with good health and much happiness!!


All the bolded is how I feel. My life is way to busy to give two hoots and a holler about a show that has very little success rate.

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Post by glazedover Mon Dec 30, 2013 6:43 pm

nonnie wrote:
Kashathediva wrote:
IrishGal wrote:
nonnie wrote:
IrishGal wrote:
nonnie wrote:
IrishGal wrote:It's because we are sick that this became a fan site instead of what was intended. JMHO.   :Smiley: 


All of these forums that deal with anything Reality TV is a fan site. What makes anyone think this one would be any different. The only reason this one exists is because FoRT shut down sleuthing.

I respectfully disagree.  This site WAS different. Most fan sites do not allow you to say negative things about the cast.  This one specifically allowed negativity towards the cast which was why we had so much wonderful snark happening.  And the shutting down of sleuthing was not the only reason we left FORT.  The mods there got more and more heavy-handed with bannings and punishments and strict rules to the point one didn't know what was safe to say and what wasn't.  Until Emily's season and the extremely divisive fanning that took place here, we survived peacefully without the need for any of that.  Sadly, starting in Emily's season, the fans of certain cast members would not allow anything negative to be said about their favorite even though it was totally allowed by the rules.  Please understand I'm not trying to stir things up...just want the facts to be known by those who weren't around when this site came into existence. I'm sincerely hoping that in future seasons we can return to our roots. Let the snarking begin...calling on the Queen of Snark, Kasha!   yes 

I was around when this site started. I left for awhile and only post every now and again. There were issues at FoRT long before Emily's season. Every season sides would divvy up  and the fights would begin. I came on FoRT in 2007 and they were fighting back then. Tessa fans versus Bevin fans so these forums are mostly all alike IMO. I do believe the mods at FoRT did their best to keep things in control but they got tired of moderating a bunch of people who wouldn't stop fighting. Were they always fair probably not because I got a few infractions myself but after awhile enough is enough. The same thing that was happening there is also happening here and as long as people have opinions it will always continue.

Sorry if I wasn't clear.  When I referred to Emily's season, I meant the season that she was lead and what happened here...not Brad's season on FORT.  I never looked at FORT again after this forum was formed so have no clue what Emily's season on FORT was like.  I do know that on this forum we managed to survive Ashley's and Ben's season just fine so I am confident it can be done.  There does not have to be fighting...it's not some kind of given and we proved it in those two seasons.   :Smiley: 

I have to agree with a lot of what you've said, so I won't repeat,  simply will add that one of the major incentives with the start of this forum and the closing of the bach spoiler threads on FORT (and if you choose to look at my member date you can see it was the date this site opened) was freedom of speech. The main and only forum rule at that time was to be respectful of each other and not to attack other members . Pretty damn simple if you ask me. And for a long time this was abided by without issue.
Then, IMOAA, this site grew to big too fast(on any given day look to see how many users are here--then subtract the number of guests, bots, etc and see how incredibly small the number of actual members are). New members were not of the same mindset of the founding members. It did become a fan site.
IMO--the show is stale and has been since the M farce and fiasco. I have no interest. Not even to snark-- and certainly not to worry about who on any given day might be offended by what I say.
Thankfully, I have some wonderful things going on in RL to keep me busy, but I do check in frequently!
I believe members have moved on--evidenced by the scant amount of wishes for happy holidays, etc.
But for all who continue to visit--May you blessed with a wonderful new year filled with good health and much happiness!!


All the bolded is how I feel. My life is way to busy to give two hoots and a holler about a show that has very little success rate.

I am just about weaned although I will miss some members. Nothing to add except ditto!

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Post by newfiegirl Mon Dec 30, 2013 8:09 pm

I cannot muster any enthusiasm for JPab as the rare time he was seen in Des' season he didn't leave any lasting impression for me. The fact TPTB tried to convince us that "the fans asked for him" is a load of malarkey. As I was not looking forward to JPab's season I read the spoilers and if in fact he chooses the b*tch then it is a rerun of Ben's and Jake's season - both of which were totally boring and we know how they ended. Yawn! I am not surprised with the hype of the Sean/Catherine wedding as TPTB will need something to try to compensate when JPab's season bombs after he choses b*tch, and ATFR reveals JPab and b*itch are not together IMO.
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Post by Sprite Mon Dec 30, 2013 9:32 pm

newfiegirl wrote:I cannot muster any enthusiasm for JPab as the rare time he was seen in Des' season he didn't leave any lasting impression for me. The fact TPTB tried to convince us that "the fans asked for him" is a load of malarkey. As I was not looking forward to JPab's season I read the spoilers and if in fact he chooses the b*tch then it is a rerun of Ben's and Jake's season - both of which were totally boring and we know how they ended. Yawn! I am not surprised with the hype of the Sean/Catherine wedding as TPTB will need something to try to compensate when JPab's season bombs after he choses b*tch, and ATFR reveals JPab and b*itch are not together IMO.

 :yes: The bolded is one of the things that really bugs me. I hate it when someone tries to tell me that something is true when I know darn well it isn't. There is no way there was this swell of clamour to have JPab as the bachelor since we hadn't seen enough of him for the audience to do that. Just having them try to shove that down my throat makes me more resistant to what they want me to do/feel/think...I'm pig headed that way! I had the same reaction with Jake and Emily. And the constant referencing about wanting a mother for Camilla is enough to make me puke. Shades of Emily all over again.

I really don't care if he finds love...since I don't think he is really looking for it...I just hope there are some women there that we will like and might make  good bachelorettes...and maybe a few good cat fights!


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Post by california90 Mon Dec 30, 2013 9:56 pm

Sprite wrote:
newfiegirl wrote:I cannot muster any enthusiasm for JPab as the rare time he was seen in Des' season he didn't leave any lasting impression for me. The fact TPTB tried to convince us that "the fans asked for him" is a load of malarkey. As I was not looking forward to JPab's season I read the spoilers and if in fact he chooses the b*tch then it is a rerun of Ben's and Jake's season - both of which were totally boring and we know how they ended. Yawn! I am not surprised with the hype of the Sean/Catherine wedding as TPTB will need something to try to compensate when JPab's season bombs after he choses b*tch, and ATFR reveals JPab and b*itch are not together IMO.

 :yes: The bolded is one of the things that really bugs me. I hate it when someone tries to tell me that something is true when I know darn well it isn't. There is no way there was this swell of clamour to have JPab as the bachelor since we hadn't seen enough of him for the audience to do that. Just having them try to shove that down my throat makes me more resistant to what they want me to do/feel/think...I'm pig headed that way! I had the same reaction with Jake and Emily. And the constant referencing about wanting a mother for Camilla is enough to make me puke. Shades of Emily all over again.

I really don't care if he finds love...since I don't think he is really looking for it...I just hope there are some women there that we will like and might make  good bachelorettes...and maybe a few good cat fights!

If Nikki is the b*tch of the season, she better bring it. LOL

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Post by Sprite Tue Dec 31, 2013 5:27 pm

Not sure if this has been posted. It is the link to the original JPab media conference call from Dec. 18th. I have seen links to the RealityTVWorld two part post that was linked through RS, but this is the full, actual call without any editing. You can see what a difference editing makes. Reality gave me a headache.

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“The Bachelor” airs MONDAYS (8:00 p.m. – 10:01 p.m., ET) on the ABC Television Network. 

Operator: Welcome to ABC's "The Bachelor" call with Cathy Rehl as the leader.  This call is being recorded.  By staying on this call, you are confirming that you consent to this recording.  If you do not wish to be recorded, please disconnect from the call at this time.

Thank you.  Ms. Rehl, you may begin your call.

Cathy Rehl: Welcome everybody to our first call of our new season with Juan Pablo and we are happy to have you with us.  We'd like to offer our apologies; Juan Pablo had an unavoidable conflict in his business agenda and could not make last Thursday when we originally scheduled.  

So we're happy that you could come on Monday and be with us and talk to him.  We're going to do this because we have a lot of people on the line, so right now we're only going to do one question per outlet and then we'll keep going around so you'll have more chances to talk Juan Pablo.  

Just want to make sure everybody has once chance straight through.  Also, want to remind you our screener is up now on ABCmedianet.com, so please take a look at it.  It obviously doesn't have the rose ceremony or a tease at the end, but it has the rest of the show and along with that, that's our premier night on January 6th.  

This is a two-night event so on January 5th we will have "The Bachelor" countdown to Juan Pablo at 8:00 Eastern Time.  I don't believe that's going to be posted ahead of time.  So, stay tuned for that too.

And with that, I think we will start.  

Operator: Ladies and gentlemen, if you would like to ask a question, please press star one on your telephone key pads.  Again, star one to ask your question.  

And your first question comes from Paulette Cohn from Americanprofile.com.

Paulette Cohn: Gooding morning, Juan.  

Juan Pablo: Good morning, everybody.

Paulette Cohn: So, you're a single dad and you're a businessman, so can you talk about, you know, with the advent of social media, employers and clients now are looking at people's conduct before they make decisions.  So can you talk about how - your plans on how you plan to conduct yourself so that this - that there's no blowback from this in the future?

Juan Pablo: I'm just going to be myself, you know, I was myself in the other show and honestly myself is the one that's going to be portrayed in - in this show.  And definitely what I say in my social media, sometimes I joke around, you have to know who I am to really understand what I write or what I do.  

So does it mean I think people have gotten to know me through social media very well, they know sometimes I joke around, sometimes I'm serious and that's probably what they're going to see and they're going to learn more about me definitely on this show.

Paulette Cohn: Terrific, thank you.

Operator: Your next question...

Juan Pablo: You're welcome.

Operator: Your next question comes from Beth Kwiatkowski from Reality TV World.  

Beth Kwiatkowski: Hi Juan Pablo, how are you doing?

Juan Pablo: Good, how are you?  A little sick, you know, I have to take care of you.  And I'm sorry again to all of you for not being able to do it last call.

Beth Kwiatkowski: Oh no problem.  It's a pleasure to speak to you now.  So I guess my obvious first question is did you find love during your season on "The Bachelor" and still walk away with a fiancée?

Juan Pablo: You have to watch till March, you know, that's part of it.  I wish I can tell you, but I'm very happy.  I'm a happy guy; I'm always happy.  And you'll see in March.  You'll call me back and let me know how - how I ended up.  

Beth Kwiatkowski: OK, perfect.  Thanks, Juan.

Juan Pablo: You're welcome.

Operator: Your next question comes from Carrie Bell from People Magazine.  

Carrie Bell: Good morning.  So...

Juan Pablo: Good morning.

Carrie Bell: So I wanted to know what went through - what process did you go through to decide that, yes, you wanted to do this again, yes, you wanted to be "The Bachelor", and, you know, are happy with the decision?

Juan Pablo: It's a process - you have to think a lot.  I have a daughter, you know, and being on "The Bachelorette," it was a little bit less thinking because I knew that I could go home week one, week two, day one, week three.  In this one, you have to be for the entire season, so it was going to be a little bit of a time away from my daughter.  

Also I hate hurting people.  And it's a (inaudible), but at the same time you have to take the risk of meeting people - 25, in this case 27 - that I knew that they knew a little bit about me.  

They knew what I wanted and then they knew that I wanted to have a family, have kids, so - so definitely it was a risk but like I've said plenty of times you can meet people everywhere in a club, or restaurant, but you don't know if that person is in the same page, you know, you don't know if that person wants to get married, have kids, or not.  

So in this case it was easier in a sense.  But at the same time it's harder because you have to say goodbye to a lot of people.  And like the answer to the question before I'm very happy, I'm a happy guy so I'm always happy and I think of that as every opportunity I always see the positive thing so.  

Carrie Bell: OK, thank you.

Juan Pablo: You're welcome.

Operator: Your next question comes from Debra Yeo from Toronto Star.

Debra Yeo: Hi, Juan Pablo.  Hello to you from Canada.  

Juan Pablo: Hi, I like Canada, I like Toronto.

Debra Yeo: Good, I think Toronto likes you too.  Well the question I want to ask is one that I would imagine a lot of the women who watched you on "The Bachelorette" are wondering, I mean, you're a good looking guy, you're fit, you're funny, you know, you obviously want to have kids and so forth, so why are you still single?

Juan Pablo: Why not?  Because of that, you know, there's always - you can meet a person - a great girl, you know, and then all of a sudden she doesn't want to get married.  So there's one thing.  Maybe you meet a girl that she doesn't understand that you have a daughter, so there's another reason.  Or maybe you have a girlfriend and she likes your daughter a lot, but inside of her there's something that tells her that she's not going to give you - she's not going to give me my first son, so there's another issue.

So it's not easy.  You know, there's always somebody for some - for people everywhere, but it's not easy to find that person.  And in this case, they knew about me, so I thought maybe it would have been easier enough, and I took the chance.  

Debra Yeo: Thank you.  

Juan Pablo: You're welcome.  

Operator: Your next question comes from Dan Rice from FYI Television.

Dan Rice: Hello, Juan Pablo.  

Juan Pablo: Hey, how's it going?

Dan Rice: Great.  Yes, I wanted to - what was first reaction when you found out that one of the contestants or the bachelorettes was seven months pregnant and would that go over in Venezuelan culture to (marry) that sort of a pairing?

Juan Pablo: It was - it was shocking but, you know, there's (love) for everybody and, you know, when you have somebody that is pregnant, you take care of it, you know.  Maybe - maybe my reaction - I was like shocked, obviously, but I'm a dad and I know how that feels and, you know, single moms, single dads, you know, when they don't have that other person to raise their child, it's just tough in the sense they need that chance.  And - if I'm able to give her that chance, it's great, you know.  It's not easy but - it's a hard situation but (we all need it).  

Dan Rice: OK, thank you.  

Juan Pablo: You're welcome.

Operator: Your next question comes from Amanda Sy from YourTango.com.

Amanda Sy: Hi, Juan Pablo. 

Juan Pablo: Hi, how are you?

Amanda Sy: I'm good how are you?

Juan Pablo: I'm good.

Amanda Sy: What do you have to say to critics who say - who have something to say about you leaving your daughter to film a reality show not once but twice? 

Juan Pablo: Do what?   Leaving my daughter for what?

Amanda Sy: To film a reality show.

Juan Pablo: Be on a reality show?

Amanda Sy: Yes.  

Juan Pablo: OK, I haven't read that, but if they tell me, oh, you leave your daughter - well, my daughter has a mom too.  And her mom takes care of her anyways when I'm away.  And I travel a lot.  So, it's not that I'm leaving her to do a reality show; I'm, you know, leaving her - couple of times to be - and maybe finding somebody that I can be happy and have a family and then she will have brothers and sisters.

So, I don't think that if somebody says that, you know, maybe they don't have families and they don't know what that means, you know.  So - but I don't - I don't care about those kinds of critics.  I'm glad that I haven't read them.  

Amanda Sy: That's an excellent answer.  Thank you.

Juan Pablo: Thank you.

Operator: Your next question comes from Naibe Reynoso from Fox News Latino.

Juan Pablo: Ay, Latino!  Hola!

Naibe Reynoso: Hola.  Finally, a Latino bachelor.  I'm so excited about this.  And speaking of that, how are you going to express your culture in this season of "The Bachelor"?  Are we going to see you eating empanadas or expressing your Latino culture in any way, shape or form?

Juan Pablo: I'm going to tell you something; I'm going to tell you something.  I am the Bachelor, and I am a Latino, and obviously it's going to be me.  So, there's going to be a lot of Latino things in the show - a lot, you know, just me.  And it's going to be great.  It's going to be a lot of food, a lot of dancing, a lot of stuff.  I'm going to tell you, it's going to be so different that you're going to love it. 

Naibe Reynoso: How about salsa dancing?

Juan Pablo: What do you say - oh maybe, you never know (inaudible).

Naibe Reynoso: Salsa dancing?

Juan Pablo: Maybe a little salsa dancing, or maybe another - another rhythm, I don't know.  We'll see.  

Naibe Reynoso: OK.  Cool.  And what reaction have you been receiving on your social media regarding that, because I know in the past there's been criticism on the show for not having more Latino involved either as bachelors or bachelorettes so what have you - what kind of feedback have you been receiving from the Latino community?

Juan Pablo: No, we're just happy.  People are just happy.  And it just - it's not that I'm a Latino, I'm not - because also I'm Spanish, you know.  Another fact that you a Latino or not, it's just, you know, it's not easy to find somebody for the show, and also in "The Bachelorette" or "The Bachelor" to find people from different cultures.  They don't understand this show; they don't want to be in this show.  So it's not easy and definitely their reaction has been great and I'm happy.  It's going to be great.  

Naibe Reynoso: We're happy too.

Juan Pablo: Thanks.

Operator: Your next question comes from Amanda Remling from International Business.

Amanda Remling: Hi, Juan Pablo, how are you?

Juan Pablo: Hi, how are you?

Amanda Remling: Great, thanks.  So, my question for you is that, last season Desiree Hartsock was blindsided by, like, Brian, you know, Ben Scott was made out to be a villain and then Brooks at the end, is this something that you've kept in the back of your mind when you began?

Juan Pablo: You always keep that in the back of head but, you know, it's just drama.  And it's drama.  There was drama with 25 guys in a house.  I cannot even imagine 27 girls in a house.  So, do I care about their drama?  Not at all.  I just let them do it.  I didn't care about my drama, in the show.  I don't care about their drama.

You know, I'm there to meet the women and in a one-on-one basis, you know, you get the chance to talk to all of them and get to know them.  So whatever happens in the house, I just don't care.  

Amanda Remling: OK, thanks.

Juan Pablo: You're welcome.  

Operator: Your next question comes from Valerie Nome from OK! Magazine.  

Valerie Nome: Hi, Juan. 

Juan Pablo: OK, OK.

Valerie Nome: What do you think of getting married on TV?  Would you do it, and why or why not?  And also do you have any embarrassing (life) stories you can share?

Juan Pablo: Getting married on TV, I'm not sure.  You know, I don't know.  It's something, you know, I'm from Venezuela and weddings in Venezuela are big, and music - I don't know how this works.  I have no idea.  So, I'm not even thinking about that.  

Embarrassing moments, (inaudible).

Valerie Nome: Any embarrassing ex stories with your ex-girlfriends or...

Juan Pablo: No, I don't think so.  Let me try to think.  I got - I'm going to be honest with you guys, my memory sucks, sometimes.  I watch a movie and three days later I don't remember - like, I cannot tell you the entire movie.  So, embarrassing moments, I don't think so.  If I think about one, I tweet it.  I'll tweet it at you.  I promise you.

Valerie Nome: OK, great.  Thank you.

Juan Pablo: You're welcome.

Operator: Your next question comes from Bill Harris from Sun Media.

Bill Harris: Hey, Juan Pablo, now that you've done this process with "The Bachelorette" and "The Bachelor", I'm sure you probably watch these shows in some form before you were on these shows.  Is there anything that you learned about making this show behind the scenes - anything that really surprised you?  Anything that you never thought was that was the way it was when you were watching and then when you actually doing it you learned something about the process?  What surprised you about that?

Juan Pablo: I have to be honest with you, I've seen "The Bachelorette" six episodes.  I saw a half hour of "The Bachelor", while I was doing the - before I did "The Bachelorette", because they come - have you seen the show, I was like no.  So I've never see - I'm going to see "The Bachelor" for the first time on January 6th, from 8:00 to 10:00.  So, I would just be myself and, you know, doing what I'm supposed to do in the date and going out and doing all that.  So to me nothing was to new.  

Obviously, you know, there's a format on it, kind of because, you know, there's some rules (inaudible) there's this (inaudible) there's lot (inaudible).  I would say I'm - if I was me and they say do what every you want up there, it would have been different. But that's how it is, you know, so nothing - nothing else that I - that I can tell you about it because I've never seen it.  After I watch this show, you - we can talk about it and I'll be like Oh, maybe that one I would have done different, you know?  But at the moment we'll have to see the show. 

Bill Harris: All right, thanks.

Juan Pablo: Thanks, Bill.

Operator: Your next question comes from Ann Oldenburg from USA Today.   

Ann Oldenburg: Hey, Juan Pablo.  Hello 

Juan Pablo: Hey good morning.

Ann Oldenburg: Good morning.  I watched the screener and actually we see this every season there - the people make stunt entrances, they do soccer ball and the dog and the pregnancy and things like that.  Did those make a difference to you, do you think they're a good idea and it kind of seems like maybe not given your first impression (inaudible).

Juan Pablo: Well it depends, you know, there are 27, I was like who was the one - when I was like the 10th - I was like what was the number one, you know, it makes a little bit of that impression, but, you know, roses I give them away because I felt like it.  You know, and you're going to love that.  

And being a (inaudible) you don't understand it and definitely a good first impression, I was waiting for crazy and I didn't have too many crazy ones I think.  So, definitely the first impression (inaudible) it might be the (inaudible) of something.  You know, it's a weird night to me. First night's very overwhelming, there are a lot of people and stuff like that.  So it's not - it's not easy.  It's not easy.

Ann Oldenburg: And can you say what you're looking for in a woman? 

Juan Pablo: Looking for a woman that is (inaudible) that is smart, that is honest, that is a (inaudible), that likes sports a little bit maybe, and was looking for somebody that knew how to dance because I love dancing.  That's one of my biggest turn on, or like I fall in love with that.  

But in this situation I say to myself, Juan Pablo, not all of them are going to dance.  Not all of them will be good dancers, so please don't let them dance yet.  And just get to know them better.  And that's how I did it, so.  

Ann Oldenburg: All right great thanks.

Juan Pablo: Yes.  Thank you.

Operator: Your next question comes from Sean Daly from The TVpage.com.  

Sean Daly: Hi, there, good morning.  Can you hear me?

Juan Pablo: Yes.  Perfect.

Sean Daly: Terrific - terrific.  So my question has to do with your daughter and sort of the difficult dance you have to do a lot of, you know, single parents have to do when they're, you know, dating and they have young children.  A lot of people won't even introduce their young children to boyfriends and girlfriends for a long time.  What role does her sort of approval or disapproval play in your selection of a future mate, and, you know, will, you know, will she be on the show, will you consult her?  How's that going to work?

Juan Pablo: I don't need approval from her, you know, obviously she's going to be five.  The way I see and the way you're going to understand when you see the show is that I introduce Camila on the first day (to wherever).  When I'm dating on the regular basis - whenever is possible, I introduce that to my girlfriend at the time, but obviously I don't tell her, "Listen Camila, this is my girlfriend."

No, this is a friend of Daddy's.  That's how I treat it.  We don't hold hands, we don't kiss, we don't sleep over, we don't do anything in front of my daughter.  I don't do it in front of my daughter because I don't want her to grow up seeing dad dating this person.  After (Carla), I just had one girlfriend, who was the one who had the chance to meet Camilla,), and it was a friend of Daddy.  That's it.  

So, obviously if - I'm getting married with somebody someday, definitely I would be like this is the one, she could be your stepmom, and I introduce her as my girlfriend because I am 100 percent sure that I'm going to marry somebody whenever that has to happen, you know.

So I take it that way.  Approval, no.  Definitely have to talk to her; she's got to love my daughter and, you know, because she can't love me if she doesn't like my daughter.  It's not going to work, so.  (Inaudible).

Sean Daly: Are you concerned about (inaudible).  Are you concerned at all about whatever sort of impression she might have of this dating process that you're going through and what message that it might send her whenever she does find out about it in the future?

Juan Pablo: Well, she'll find out later.  She's not going to watch this show.  I'm going to show, you know, maybe some things to her, but I'm not going to show her everything, you know.  It's not worth it.  She's little, she's going to be five.  So, it's not even worth involving her into this whole process and tell her, listen, Daddy's going to go out with 27 - no, it's not worth it at all. 

Beth Kwiatkowski: Hello?

Operator: Your next question is a follow-up from Beth Kwiatkowski from Reality TV World.

Beth Kwiatkowski: Juan, during your introductory clips you seem to talk a lot about how you're looking to find a girl to move to Miami, be a step mom to your daughter and hopefully be a mom to a couple or a few more kids.  So I guess does that mean you weren't really interested in like an independent girl who was very focused on building her career, and maybe not looking to have kids in the next few years and I was also

Juan Pablo: No - no.

Beth Kwiatkowski: Moving to Miami was a deal breaker for you or if you were actually open to moving to wherever your girl might be if you select her?

Juan Pablo: No - no, on the moving part I don't like Miami.  I don't know where, you know, how they say that that I want to move, you know, I don't like Miami that much.  I don't like the weather.  So and I travel a lot, that's why to me base is Miami but I travel a lot.  But definitely I want somebody very independent, career wise.  I respect a lot what a person does for a living.  And I want to have kids right away, but if I'm with somebody and she's like, listen, I have my career and this and that, I understand it.  

There's no like no, no I want kids right now.  No, no.  I respect that a lot because I love people when they respect what I do for a living.  You know, if somebody's an architect and she (has work) to buy for two weeks and she has - her career is getting bigger and bigger, I will respect that 100 percent whenever we're ready, we'll be ready to have kids.

And Miami, who would ever, you know?   Obviously I'll have to find somewhere that I can be - that is easier for me to do what I do for a living and maybe for that person, what she does for a living too.  So, you know, there's got to be a conversation and a couple's, you know, decision at the end of the day.  

Beth Kwiatkowski: OK, great.  And would you say that your first impressions of a lot of the ladies were pretty accurate based on how they acted throughout the season?  Or were you surprised about what you learned about some of them as time when on?

Juan Pablo: I wouldn't - I wouldn't judge a first impression.  I don't judge first impressions at all, because I didn't do something but I could have done some weird thing too, and it's not me.  You know, just to be funny.  So, it's hard to say, oh, because you did this, you're going to be this way.  No, I would have done double flip and take my shirt off, like maybe like (Sag) did and that's not me.  It just would have done it because it was funny, you know, so.  I wouldn't judge on first impression.

Beth Kwiatkowski: OK, great.  Thanks, Juan Pablo.

Juan Pablo: You're welcome.

Operator: Your next question comes from Erin Humphrey from RumorFix.

Erin Humphrey: Hi Juan Pablo. 

Juan Pablo: Hey, how are you?

Erin Humphrey: Good, how are you doing?

Juan Pablo: Are those rumors fixed or not fixed?

Erin Humphrey: Oh, we fix them every day.  

Juan Pablo: OK, sounds good.

Erin Humphrey: Actually I just wanted to ask you if you were to have a wedding will you invite Desiree, why or why not?

Juan Pablo: I would - I would invite everybody, you know, why not.

Female: OK.

Juan Pablo: Well, I'll see if she invites me to her wedding first and if she doesn't invite me then I'll think about it maybe I won't invite her.  But I think Chris will invite me.  So, yes, I'll invite them of course.

Female: Why do you want to invite her?

Juan Pablo: Why not, you know.

Female: OK.

Juan Pablo: Somebody that I met and Chris is a great friend and we talk once in a while.  So, you know, I'm just happy for them and I understand the process that's - when I think, and for all of you could understand, you have to be very mature, very understandable and realistic when you go on the Bachelor or the Bachelorette.

If you're one of the 25 you have to be clear and very mature to understand that there's going to be 24 guys that are going to go home or 25 guys that are going to go home, you know.  She's not going to keep three, she's not going to keep two, she going to keep one.  She just - she can just keep one.  

So, it's a process that if you're mature enough you understand and that's what when I went home I was I understand she doesn't feel like that I'm the right guy.  She feels like somebody else is the right guy.  So, in this case, you know, I have friends and she's a friend now and I got to meet a great friend in that show.

Female: Oh, great, thank you, Juan Pablo. 

Juan Pablo: You're welcome.

Operator: Your next question is a follow-up from Valerie Nome from OK! Magazine.   

Valerie Nome: Hi, Juan, where do you go on a first date that's not on T.V. and why?

Juan Pablo: I, you know, what we - we're different.  I'm Venezuelan and I'm so different as Americans.  I don't even worry about first dates, second date, third dates.  I kiss on the second date because I wanted to kiss her in the first date because I want to do dinner and then we do this and - no.  I'll just say listen what do you want to do I'll pick you up and then we'll figure it out and we'll just go to the movies.  And then, oh you want to have something to eat let's just have something to eat.  

We are a little different and that's how I am, you know, and to me I don't pick a place for a first date.  I just call somebody and say, hey, I'll pick you tomorrow.  You want to do something?  Sure, what do you want to do?  Maybe movies.  OK, good.  

You know, I just more natural than in the States.  There there's many things in different cultures that you will see probably during this show that I will explain because definitely my words are the ones they're going to explain why I am the way I am, and you'll be like, well, this guy's that way.  And then you'll listen and, oh, now I understand.

So, you'll enjoy it.  I promise you, you guys are going to enjoy this show.

Valerie Nome: And so you have any dating turn ons and turn offs and why?  

Juan Pablo: I hate dancing, man.  You seen us dance is horrible.  So, I'm not dancing, you know, no dancing.  I tried not to, you know, it's funny.  But we'll see maybe I'll change my mind and I'll change the way I am because of the show because I know, you know, all of them are going to be dancers, so.

Valerie Nome: All right, thank you.

Juan Pablo: And somebody that doesn't eat, too - you know, I like food a lot.  So I know I don't want to - I don't like sushi, I don't like this, I don't like this.  Maybe that would be a horrible turn off.  I don't know.

Operator: Your next question is a follow-up from Amanda Sy from YourTango.com.

Amanda Sy: Hi, again.  

Juan Pablo: Hi.

Amanda Sy: Was your heart broken at any point during this season?

Cathy Rehl: He really can't talk about that, I'm sorry.

Juan Pablo: And...

Amanda Sy: That's a (pass).

Juan Pablo: OK and like I said, you have to be mature.  You have to be smart, you have to be realistic in this whole situation, honestly, you know.  Because you have 27 people and the more mature you are, the better it's going to end up.  

Amanda Sy: What's the best love advice you've ever received and who did you receive it from?

Juan Pablo: What is the best what?  Sorry.

Amanda Sy: What is the best love advice you're ever received and who did it come from?

Juan Pablo: I'm sorry again.  What the best - I cannot hear you very well.

Amanda Sy: The best love advice.

Cathy Rehl: The best love advice.

Juan Pablo: Advice, the best love advice I received before joining this show?  You know, just tell her your feelings, you know.  You've just got to let yourself see how you feel and try to listen as much as you can and understand people.  You know, you have to put yourself in the other's shoes too.  And I was in the other shoes.  I was in the other show.  

So, you have to understand that and I'm glad that I wanted to do this show being on the other show.  They said now you will understand the whole process and how - why these people talk and why these people interact and why these people feel that way, you know.  So, definitely you just got to let your gut feeling tell you and you figure it out. 

Amanda Sy: Great, thank you.  

Juan Pablo: You're welcome.

Operator: Your next question is a follow-up from Amanda Remling from International Business Times. 

Amanda Remling: Hi, again.  So this is kind of like a follow-up question to the last one about advice.  Have you talked to any of, like your fellow contestants from Desiree Hartsock season?  And have they, you know, given you support or have you been in touch with any of them?

Juan Pablo: Well, you always, you know, we - we talk we - we tweet.  You know, they're supportive of course.  You know, they want the best for me and I want the best for them.  You know, and definitely, you know, (Sag) was my best friend out of this and (Dan) and we talk and hopefully everything went well and before I went through the show, hey, are going to do good or everything's going to be great.  

You know, it just - just encouragement words that, you know, that they just have for me and I appreciate it all those of course.  And obviously for me to them is they - I know they're going to find her somewhere and, you know, I'm always supportive for them whenever they need, you know, they can call me and it's great having friends out of all this.

Amanda Remling: Good day, thank you.

Juan Pablo: Thank you.

Operator: Your next question is a follow-up from Carrie Bell from People Magazine.

Carrie Bell: So, I wondering if felt like it was a totally different experience being, you know, sort of the bachelor and the guy in charge and the one sending people home.  

Juan Pablo: Of course.

Carrie Bell: OK.

Juan Pablo: Of course it was a different experience I got to on the dates.  Finally I got to go on my one on one date that I never went in the other show.  So, but yes, it's a different experience because you're the one dating every day and going on the dates.  But it's tiring too, you know, it's tiring.  On the other one I got to rest and this one I didn't. 

So, but it was fun.  It was great.  

Carrie Bell: Do you, I mean, do you feel like your approach becomes different because now that you have to be - you know, before you're in this position where you're just trying to get her to like you.  But know you kind of have to do a lot of different things on a date.  You've got to figure out if you like them.  You got to make them like you.  You know, I mean, how was your approach (inaudible)?

Juan Pablo: Well, it's never I got to make them like me I just need them to be themselves.  And me be myself and I'll figure it out.  It's just something that happens naturally, you know.  It's not like, OK, I'm going to try to like this girl, no.  You just go on dates and then you keep an eye open on all of them, how they interact with each other.  Oh, how are they doing and what are they saying to you and you can pick it up from these things.

And definitely it's something that grows naturally, how you feel for somebody.  It's not like oh, I'm going to try to like this girl.  So, so as a long as people are themselves, then you pick up on those good things.     

Carrie Bell: Overall, do you think that the group of women - or what would you say about the group of women, that they - that they assembled for, you know, to date you?

Juan Pablo: Well, to me it was great.  It was a great group of women.  Obviously, you get to know more - some more than others.  But the definitely I think they did a good job picking out from the - from the girls and doing the casting.  

Carrie Bell: Great, thank you.

Juan Pablo: You're welcome.

Operator: Your next question is a follow-up from Naibe Reynoso from Fox News Latino.

Naibe Reynoso: Hi, again, so...

Juan Pablo: Hi.   

Naibe Reynoso: As a Latina, I know that our culture ends to be very traditional.  Did you get any kind of - do you think for you it was a little more challenging to explain to your family this process of dating on television just because you were going to in...

Juan Pablo: No, yes, no, they - hey, I went to the other show, you know, like I said if I wouldn't have been on "The Bachelorette" that women will understand, but I'm one of the other ones and they understood because of that one but it all, OK, I understand what it is all about. 

So when I was in the - when I got for "The Bachelor," I didn't even tell my parents till the end, you know.  I'll say, can I get drinks for the lady?  I've got to do this.  So, they were fine, you know, and they respect me and they, you know, support me, so it wasn't a big deal.  

Naibe Reynoso: Are you chivalrous?  Or do you like to open the door and do all of those things that gentlemen like to do?

Juan Pablo: Of course.  We - with trying.  I try, you know, and that's one of the things that we're losing a lot now, you know.  So I - so I try to - I try to do that as much as I can, you know.

Naibe Reynoso: Yes, all right.  OK, well thank you.

Juan Pablo: Thank you.

Operator: Your next question is a follow-up from Erin Humphrey from RumorFix.

Erin Humphrey: Hi, again.

Juan Pablo: Hi.

Erin Humphrey: Hey, who's your dream celebrity date?

Juan Pablo: Ohh, Heidi Klum.

Erin Humphrey: OK, why?

Juan Pablo: I think she's beautiful, since I was little.  I thought oh my gosh, she is so pretty.  She is absolutely - her face is just perfect.  

Erin Humphrey: What would you do if you took her one a date?

Juan Pablo: I saw Heidi Klum on America Museum it was an (inaudible) and you are so pretty but I was embarrassed.  I felt embarrassed.  What would I do with Heidi Klum on a date?

Erin Humphrey: Yes.

Juan Pablo: I'll be like, hey, you want to go eat dinner?  I'll take you to - eat some Venezuelan food right now.  We just go, you've been in (inaudible) maybe then it will be like, so what do you want to do now?  OK, movies?  OK where?  No, you want to do something else?  OK. We'll do whatever.

I'm not picking with this.  You want to go to a baseball game?  I'll take you to a baseball game, we eat hotdogs, OK, perfect.  You know?  

Erin Humphrey: Yes.

Juan Pablo: No fancy.  No fancy at all.

Erin Humphrey: OK, great, thank you.

Juan Pablo: You're welcome.

Operator: Your next question is a follow-up from Beth Kwiatkowski from Reality TV World.

Beth Kwiatkowski: Hi, Juan Pablo.

Juan Pablo: Hey.

Beth Kwiatkowski: I was just wondering what you were thinking and feeling when the very first limo pulled up?  What was going through your mind?

Juan Pablo: (Ie, yayi) Juan Pablo, what's going to happen here?  That's what I said and then the first limo comes in and I'm like oh, my gosh first limos on fire.  Then the second one was like oh, my gosh I'm in trouble.  And then the third one I was like I forgot already who the first girl is.  So, it was overwhelming crazy.  It's - it's just that - isn't it weird night, you know, it's a weird night because you just get to meet all these people and how to keep up with all of them.  It was - it was hard, very hard.  

Beth Kwiatkowski: OK and most of the girls during Ben Flajnik Bachelor season really disliked Courtney Robertson and kept saying Ben would be foolish to pick her in the end, and Jake Pavelka experienced a similar situation with Vienna who was kind of the villain in his season.

So, I know you said you didn't care about the drama at all but I guess I - did you put any weight on how the girls interacted and got a long with one another?  You know, I don't know if girls would approach you and confront you about each other or whether or not you would actually take that into consideration. 

Juan Pablo: Yes, I don't like tattle tellers, you know, and I like people that worry about themselves, just themselves, like I do.  I don't care about if - if Ben gets to say to this and the other guy did that and (James), because (Michael) - I just didn't care. 

You know, I just worried about me and her, and I just was looking for a girl to worry about her and me.  So, you know, if they wanted to tell me something or whatever and I don't pay attention to that and at the end, you know, whatever they say or whatever they have in there now it just - it doesn't matter to me I don't care what people say, you know, I just care about what I say, what I feel and how I feel, so.  

Beth Kwiatkowski: OK and you clearly had expectations in certain qualities you were looking for in your bachelorettes when so began.  But those qualities and expectations actually change as the season when on?  Like did you want things in the beginning that you realized more into the show you wanted different things?

Juan Pablo: It was more before the show.  You know, like I say I've dated girls because I go on the dance floors.  So, when people tells me you meet, all man, it's so hard, it's impossible to meet a great guy at a club or a great girl at a club.  And I always well; it has happened to me all my life.  

You know, I happen to find people, good people, at a club because I like dancing and that's what I like.  So, that was before the show I said, Juan Pablo, you're going to go on this show.  OK, this is not going to happen, this is it, be smart about it and that's the, you know, I was prepared before the show.  

Beth Kwiatkowski: OK, thank you so much.

Juan Pablo: You're welcome.

Operator: Your next question is a follow-up from Amanda Sy from YourTango.com. 

Amanda Sy: You just talked a little bit about preparing for show but were you nervous about before you started?

Juan Pablo: Well, I don't know if nervous or not, you know, because I got nervous when I took a step on the - in front of the house when the first limo pulled off; that's when I got nervous.  You know, I like meeting people and I'm an easygoing guy and I like meeting people all over the place.

So, definitely, you know, it's intimidating, having 27 women looking at you like a piece of something.  You know, it's funny too.

When I got to the, you know, there's one of the commercials that says oh my god, 27 - when I get to the side of the room and they were all looking at me, I was like, oh, OK, this is serious.  I don't know what I'm going to go now with all these people looking at me. 

So, but it was more nervous just when -  when I step on - in front of mansion and the limo start pulling off.

Amanda Sy: How was the difference between being in the mansion the first night when you were one of bachelors for "The Bachelorette" versus being in there and being the center of attention, being the Bachelor?

Juan Pablo: OK, when I was in the other show, at first, I was like whoa, you had to do something.  What are you going to do when you got to the limo?  And I was like, what do you mean get out of the limo?  I have no idea.  So, I have to figure that out and then, you know, I was like, OK, I'll just get down and meet this girl and then we'll talk inside.

And I didn't know what to expect.  And this way, I knew what was going on and definitely was like oh my gosh.  Hopefully there's not going to be crazy ones getting out of the limo doing weird things.  That's what my biggest concern.  And it was pretty good.  I was impressed. 

Amanda Sy: OK, thank you.

Juan Pablo: You're welcome.

Cathy Rehl: We'll take one more question if there is one?  

Operator: Your final question comes - is a follow-up from Valerie Nome from OK! Magazine.  

Valerie Nome: What is the best and worst things about dating you and why?

Juan Pablo: What are the best and bad things about dating me?  That's a good question.  OK.  Best thing to date about me, if you like music and you like sports and you like to have good time, you're going to have a blast.  Because I love going to concerts and little showcases, and - because of my job.  So I like to go to soccer games, and baseball games, and basketball games and football games, and go to Europe and watch football, and go - you know, that's my life.  OK.  

And the bad things about dating me is that - that's a good question, I don't know.  I'm trying to think.  No, I'm just kidding.  That I - sometimes I can be a little stubborn.  I like to eat a lot.  So if you don't like to eat, you're kind of screwed because I like food a lot.  

I like to watch sports on the weekends, and there's people who love weekends to go out and the sun comes out and it's great now.  I just want to lie in bed and watch sports and relax.  And what else?

I can be a little sarcastic - there's people who don't like that.  You know, I like to joke around a lot and there's people who don't like that.  So those are the bad things.

Valerie Nome: And how difficult is it (inaudible)?

Juan Pablo: Sometimes - and sometimes obviously my daughter's my priority, so if you want to have a plan with me and then my daughter calls me, then I'm going to have to go with my daughter.  So, that's a bad thing too.

Valerie Nome: And what's your biggest vice and why?

Juan Pablo: My biggest what?

Valerie Nome: Your biggest vice?  Do you smoke or anything like that?

Juan Pablo: Oh, my vice.  (Nutella).  (Pequenos).  Food, it's just food.  Doritos with salsa.  You know, I don't smoke, I don't drink.  I can drink one beer with lime, salt on top, entire lime.  You know, one.  And I can drink like scotch (inaudible) very soft one; it takes me for like an hour and a half.  So I don't drink.  I don't smoke.  Dance could be too.  So dance, (Nutella), (pequenos) and Doritos and salsa.  

Valerie Nome: Great.

Juan Pablo: I'm a fatty, yes.

Operator: And there are no further questions.  Ms. Rehl, are there any closing remarks?

Cathy Rehl: Yes.  I just want to thank everybody for your time today and I hope you got what you needed.  We have photos up and obviously we have our premiere up if you haven't seen it yet.  And if anybody needs anything, please e-mail me [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.].  And otherwise we look forward to talking to you after the New Year.  Thanks, everybody.

Operator: Ladies and gentlemen, this does conclude today's conference.  Thank you for participating.  You...

Juan Pablo: Thank you.

Operator: ...may now disconnect.    


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Post by california90 Tue Dec 31, 2013 5:48 pm

LMAO, I love that he's a fatty aka lover of food.

Anyways, I skimmed a lot of this because its super long, but he seems pretty honest and real but again.. I think most of the questions were about him and not so much the season.

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Post by IrishGal Wed Jan 01, 2014 3:34 am

Is it worth reading?


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Post by Kashathediva Wed Jan 01, 2014 3:39 am

IrishGal wrote:Is it worth reading?

Nah.  giggling 



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Post by Linds911 Wed Jan 01, 2014 3:39 am

^was gonna ask that! Just tried skimming through it way too much to read. Meh.


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Post by IrishGal Wed Jan 01, 2014 5:06 am

Kashathediva wrote:
IrishGal wrote:Is it worth reading?

Nah.  giggling 

Heh! I was bored cuz DH crashed. I read most of it and it's really not interesting at all.

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Post by Sprite Wed Jan 01, 2014 1:09 pm

IrishGal wrote:
Kashathediva wrote:
IrishGal wrote:Is it worth reading?

Nah.  giggling 

Heh!  I was  bored cuz DH crashed.  I read most of it and it's really not interesting at all.  

Happy New Year!

I think that may be due to the fact that JPab is indeed boring. Nothing I have seen or read about him makes him seem to have any kind of depth. You would think that wouldn't matter on a reality show such as the Bachelor but alas, sadly it does...at least to me. He would have to be really hot to me or really sincere or better yet, both to make up for the whole awkward mess. Oh well...HAPPY NEW YEAR to everyone! Here's to a season with a lot of fun snarking and a few good cat fights!!!


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