Fantasy Dates - Screencaps - Discussion

1. constantine is leaving
2. ryan is coming back for supposed advises
3. sister is messing about what looks like JP
4. Ash is upset at the FD hotel room with J (Although I have a theory here)
5. FRC, ash is very emotional
6. she is engaged with the man she fell in love with

facts right?

is 4 a fact? looked more like smoke and mirrors to me. All we see is Ash walking and JP on the bed - it was the VOs that made it look sinister.

6. we'll have to wait and see.

anders wrote:is 4 a fact? looked more like smoke and mirrors to me. All we see is Ash walking and JP on the bed - it was the VOs that made it look sinister.

6. we'll have to wait and see.

IA, he doesn't look mad or upset when she leaves. She's probably leaving to change or something.

anders wrote:is 4 a fact? looked more like smoke and mirrors to me. All we see is Ash walking and JP on the bed - it was the VOs that made it look sinister.

6. we'll have to wait and see.

yep I agree wit 4 only

1. constantine is leaving
2. ryan is coming back for supposed advises
3. sister is messing about what looks like JP but can be also ben (2 different outfit with ash crying with sister)
4. Ash is upset at the FD hotel room with J (Although I have a theory here)
5. FRC, ash is very emotional
6. she is engaged with the man she fell in love with

Is everyone thinking it is Constantine that doesn't stay the night in the fantasy suite?

yes, we know it's connie that leaves before the evening portion of the date.

My husband made an interesting comment about JP... And that was that JP would freak out with the idea of Ashley staying all night with these other guys in the fantasy suites. Something to think about.

Maybe Constantine is not the only one that doesn't stay? If Ashley doesn't get some loving from JP come fantasy suite time that could be a MAJOR roadblock hmmmm.

If JP was clearly upset over Ben's overnight two epi's ago, do you think he will come right out ask Ash about the FSD with Ben? They will show JP's date last, but of course filming may not have been in that order. I'm very curious if this will be addressed by JP...thoughts?

Is anyone certain of the order the FSD's occured? I would think that JP will question Ashley about the other dates. If Ashley doesn't give him the reassurance he needs he may not give her the confirmation of his feelings. Just speculation of course. I am still hung up on the fact that Ashley is shown in her FRC gown in what "appears" to be two separate occasions. Would not be suprised if JP just can't let himself say what needs to be said because of doubt, leaves but realizes what he's done and comes back. Lots of questions and things that don't add up (but my name here is clueless so there you go).

skitts wrote:If JP was clearly upset over Ben's overnight two epi's ago, do you think he will come right out ask Ash about the FSD with Ben? They will show JP's date last, but of course filming may not have been in that order. I'm very curious if this will be addressed by JP...thoughts?

Assuming that JP knew nothing of how this show worked prior, and would be hearing for the first time about the FS option when Ashley gives him the card, I'd be surprised if he didn't ask her how she handled this with the other guys, but I'm almost sure that he waited until they were alone with no cameras, and she probably told him that Dino already left, and that she and Ben just talked all night.

It's possible though, that in an attempt to prolong the "JP jealousy" storyline, he'll be prompted to bring it up on camera, and Ashley will have to tell him on camera that he needs to deal with it; then, once they're alone, she'll reassure him that nothing happened with the other guys.

One of the interesting things here is the discussion of JP's jealousy. I noticed on JP's commentary of his HT date, when he was talking to his brother, he (maybe tongue -in cheek, but nevertheless) mentioned his mood as a "jealous rage". He himself recognizes in himself this tendency toward jealousy and posessiveness.
And, yes, although they aren't in a dating around the other guys situation, it has to occur to him that she is in a situation where she is spending the night with 2 other guys.
And, last, I do think he got the last date. I do think the producers set it up just that way. They are trying to provoke that jealousy in him like they did Chantal for the effect of drama. If he is to do "clean-up" after Ryan and Dino that just adds to it, but JP won't forget in the back of his mind that he also came after Ben. He will be wondering about that.